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Sally Jenkins is 100% correct in this article.

"The Wrong Job for the Man"

By Sally Jenkins
Thursday, February 7, 2008; E01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 90_pf.html


If Steve Spagnuolo's friends really care about him, they'll advise him not to go near the Redskins job. "Run," they'll tell him. "Run away, now, as fast as you can." They'll tell him that in the New York Giants he has wise owners and a principled general manager who treat their people right. They'll tell him that Daniel Snyder isn't really looking for a head coach, he just wants to hire another butler.

It's unclear how seriously Spagnuolo, the Giants' defensive coordinator still flushed from his Super Bowl triumph, is being considered for the Redskins' head coaching position. All we know is that Spagnuolo is the latest victim of those interminable, cigar-filled, 20-hour interviews. But frankly, if there's any considering to be done, it's Spagnuolo who should be doing it. He's the one who should carefully size up Snyder, not vice versa. A job offer from Snyder isn't exactly a shortcut to head coaching success. Actually, it's been known to set careers back years.

If Spagnuolo's friends care about him, they'll spare him that old saw, "Dan Snyder just wants to win." No, he doesn't. He just wants to run things. If Snyder really wanted to win, he'd have gone after a different guy in the Giants' organization years ago: General Manager Jerry Reese. Spagnuolo is the hot, exciting hire of the day, but Reese was the bigger figure in the Giants' success, though in a more mundane and less visible way. As usual, Snyder's impressed by all the wrong things.

The difference between the Giants and the Redskins at this moment is striking. The divisional cousins split their regular season games, and both fought for wild-card playoff berths. Yet they couldn't be more dissimilar when it comes to good judgment. The Giants reflect how close, and yet how far, the Redskins really are from being a successful franchise.

A year ago, Giants Coach Tom Coughlin was on the brink of being fired despite getting the team to the playoffs twice. Veteran players were frustrated. There were doubts about whether quarterback Eli Manning would fulfill his promise.

What did owners John Mara and Steve Tisch do? They trusted the counsel of Reese, the first-year GM they had promoted after 12-plus years of service in the personnel department.

Reese, in turn, trusted Coughlin enough to give him a one-year contract extension. He stood by Manning. And he refused to make wholesale roster changes. "It wasn't the right thing to do," he said. "The right thing to do was take care of personnel already on the roster."

Instead, Reese concentrated on the draft, and showed what a knowledgeable personnel man with an expert eye can do for a team. All eight of the rookies he selected would contribute to the Giants' Super Bowl run. Wide receiver Steve Smith in the second round from Southern California? Okay, that was a pretty easy pick. Not so easy were tight end Kevin Boss from Western Oregon in the fifth round, or running back Ahmad Bradshaw from Marshall in the seventh. Each made huge plays in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. Then there was third-rounder Jay Alford from Penn State, whose spearing sack of Tom Brady with 25 seconds left all but cinched the victory. And those were just the stars of the class.

A total of 23 players drafted by Reese over the last few years are on the Giants' roster -- nearly half the team. David Tyree, who merely made one of the biggest catches in Super Bowl history, was a sixth-round pick in 2003. Two of the defensive linemen who made Spagnuolo look so brilliant, Justin Tuck (Notre Dame, third round, 2005) and Osi Umenyiora (Troy, second round, 2003), also were his picks.

Spagnuolo should consider all of that carefully, and then ask himself some questions:

Do you think for a moment Snyder would have retained Coughlin last year? (No. He would have fired him.)

Do you think Snyder would have stuck by Manning after three mediocre seasons? (No. He'd have traded him.)

Do you think for a moment that Snyder and his surrogate, Executive Vice President-Football Operations Vinny Cerrato, could have found the lower-round rookies who made such critical contributions in the Super Bowl? (Ha.)

If Spagnuolo is smart, he'll stay put with the Giants and learn as much as he can from them about how good upper management operates. Another, better head coaching job will come along in time, one in which his owner doesn't impose his assistant coaches on him, or tell him whom to play at quarterback.

It's a bitter shame to say this, given how much it surely pains local fans, but the truth is that Redskins Park is no place for someone with a bright future. It's too dark and dysfunctional. The phrase "coach killer" comes to mind. No good one, except possibly Joe Gibbs, has had a decent experience under Snyder, not Norv Turner, Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier, Al Saunders or Gregg Williams. Which is why the only people who seem to be realistically entertaining the job now are either those desperate to get back in the game, such as Jim Fassel and Steve Mariucci, or climbers looking for their first head coaching office.


There is a consistent, central weakness in the Redskins' organization that no coach can fix. It's Snyder's tycoon mentality, his assumption that he can purchase people and make them do what he wants, and if they displease him, discard them. His paycheck players and presto coaching solutions fail every time. The franchise is based on a series of extravagant bribes, not a dime of which has ever been spent on the qualities that made the Giants into Super Bowl champions, namely good faith, loyalty, patience, unity and, above all, belief in the leadership at the top.

"Believe!" the Giants defenders shouted at their teammates on the sideline as Manning and the offense took the field for the game-winning drive. Everyone believed. Mara and Tisch believed in Reese, who believed in Coughlin, who believed in the players, who believed back.

Who, at this point, believes in Snyder? Run, Spagnuolo. Run, as fast as you can.

If you believe that then you clearly need a new team to cheer for.

Clearly she hates the redskins and obviously is probably upset that she slept with Snyder and he didn't call her the next day.

Her article made me

Ikester

It made you mad because it is true and, like me, you can't stand the fact that Snyder has destroyed our beloved team.

If you believe that then you clearly need a new team to cheer for.

Clearly she hates the redskins and obviously is probably upset that she slept with Snyder and he didn't call her the next day.

Just because she may hate the Redskins does not mean she is not spot on in her assessment of our current HC situation.

I have generally bit my tongue and not responded to posts critical of Snyder however Jerkins article pushed me over the top. Unfortunately I don't have the time to spend the next hour writing an appropriate response to her article and those who have been critical of Snyder. I will sum it up in that I feel those who criticize Snyder are all Monday morning quarterbacks who are clearly very unappreciative of an owner who will reach deep into his own pocket and will spare no cost to make the redskins a winning team. Does he make mistakes and goes a little too far at time to achieve success? Sure, but as the saying goes Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. I think it is time for some writers and fans to get off their pedestals, take a step back and be a little more appreciative of what they have compared to others. Oh and Jerkins article is filled with inaccuracies of reality and manipulation of facts to get her own shock value out of it just like reporters did in regards to Sean Taylor before actual facts came out. Pure and simple just like reporters didn't like Taylor because he wouldn't grant them interviews because they burnt him in the past so to they don't like Snyder for the same reason and will spin things negatively about how he is handling things which will continue to negatively effect the fans and their feelings for the team and the own. Snyder is a terrible man...he has paid top dollar to try and get players here that could help us win and superbowl oh and tried to bring in coaches that we ALL thought at the time will turn this bus around. The only problem is that now he is actually taking the time to try and do an even better job than in the past with less attractive options then in the past. What a meddling terrible owner.

Ikester

I might agree with parts but I certainly do not ever want Coughlin as a HC of "my" team.

I do not think that Manning is going to be a very good QB. The Giants made a terrible deal to get Manning.

The Giants are still not as good a team as the pukes or the Redskins - they just got lucky at the right time - that does not make them a better chance for post season play than a lot of other teams in my opinion.

S Jenkins is a little bit like a lot of people that hate Snyder - they use everything they can to show him up - that is all they really care about.

Even though I am not a Snyder fan he is not a bad person, he just keeps making mistakes as an owner.
BTW - Snyder is not a very tall person but he is a lot bigger than a lot of these haters.

Why do I care what Sally Jenkins rights. She is a bitter person that only rights negative stuff on the Skins.

Snyder is a better owner than Jenkins is a journalist!

I love how people think just becasue someone spends a lot of $ on the team that is makes them a good owner. It has no berring on making one a good owner or a bad owner.

The Rooneys are knows for being cheap yet, the Steelers are one of the best organizations in all of football.

I frequently disagree with Sally J but in this case, when it comes to Snyder and the Redskins organization she is 100% right.

wormer wrote:I love how people think just becasue someone spends a lot of $ on the team that is makes them a good owner. It has no berring on making one a good owner or a bad owner.

The Rooneys are knows for being cheap yet, the Steelers are one of the best organizations in all of football.

I frequently disagree with Sally J but in this case, when it comes to Snyder and the Redskins organization she is 100% right.

Case and point the Giants had the lowest payroll this past year!

wormer wrote:I love how people think just becasue someone spends a lot of $ on the team that is makes them a good owner. It has no berring on making one a good owner or a bad owner.

The Rooneys are knows for being cheap yet, the Steelers are one of the best organizations in all of football.

I frequently disagree with Sally J but in this case, when it comes to Snyder and the Redskins organization she is 100% right.

Spending money is not the end all but ask yourself why is he willing to spend? He wants to Redskins to win...period. And at what cost? All cost...period. Does he make mistakes? Yeah....but so does everyone and so has every team. There are teams that win with the highest payroll and those that win with the lowest. What I find to be the most important thing when I am evaluating a person is his intentions. While Snyder is a businessman his intentions are good and he has shown he is willing to try anything or do anything to get this team to win. You know they criticized the Yankees Steinbrenner about the same issue....after a while he learned enough to build a team that has been dominant now for over a decade which is a remarkable feat as well as many other strong teams along the way . Sorry, but I am happy to have an owner that is willing to go to that extreme for my team.

Ikester

ike075 wrote:I will sum it up in that I feel those who criticize Snyder are all Monday morning quarterbacks who are clearly very unappreciative of an owner who will reach deep into his own pocket and will spare no cost to make the redskins a winning team.

I'm stopping you right there because you have an incomplete assessment of what it is that fuels the anti-Snyder contingent.

It has NOTHING to do with not appreciating Snyder's willingness to "reach deep" and "spare no expense."

That's a no brainer. Every sports fan wants an owner with those traits. It's better than the alternative.

The tipping point is what you left out. A good owner needs willingness AND know-how. Snyder thought and still thinks he knows because he was a fan for all those years. He has stubbornly refused to take much of an education from the qualified football people he's had in Ashburn or from observation of the operations that have succeeded and played in Super Bowls.

Does he make mistakes and goes a little too far at time to achieve success? Sure,

But he refuses to learn from those mistakes and try something different. As I've always said, his biggest fault is in insistfulness for being seen as being responsible for the grand reclamation of Redskins Glory.

He gets more shiggles (smushed word that's a combo of [bleep] and giggles) from being as hands-on as he is than he would, yes I mean this, if someone else were to build an NFL champion.

He'd rather drive his car himself and finish 15th than let someone else drive it to Victory Lane.

ike075 wrote:Spending money is not the end all but ask yourself why is he willing to spend? He wants to Redskins to win...period.

Again, we know why. We LIKE why.

We hate HOW.

Why is simply not enough. Never will be.

Yes, he is willing to spend LOADS of money. And you may like/respect him as a man for wanting whats best for our beloved team. That still doesn't make him a good owner. Results make an owner good. The bottom line is winning a superbowl (or at least getting there). Even Snyder, as a businessman, understands that the bottom line is the only thing that matters. And by that measure, I think he sucks.

wormer wrote:I love how people think just becasue someone spends a lot of $ on the team that is makes them a good owner. It has no berring on making one a good owner or a bad owner.

The Rooneys are knows for being cheap yet, the Steelers are one of the best organizations in all of football.

I frequently disagree with Sally J but in this case, when it comes to Snyder and the Redskins organization she is 100% right.

My slam on the Cardinals, Bears, and Bills owners were based on the fact that they are cheap and put the $ bottom line above the football bottom line. You don’t have out spend everyone, but you do have to spend to get and keep the right people. Snyder is willing to spend and wants a winner but he doesn’t know who to spend it on. What he isn't willing to do is acknowledge that Vinny is not the right gut to be a GM. He is fairly young in ownership years and hasn't learned that he need to just hire a good GM and let him run the team, including hiring a coach.

But what Sally 'bitter hag" Jenkins is doing his over reacting to things that she doesn't have a clue about. She isn't a very good journalist and has no right to slam Snyder just to get her bitter self off.

The Washington media is doing more damage to the Redskins than Snyder ever has and this includes Riggo, Mr. Waffle himself! They are trying to stir up a panic with the fans, they are spin doctoring things to make Snyder look bad, and in the process they are hurting the Skins. Off course there are bunches of idiot fans that are going for their line of petulant spewings like a starving Bass to live bait.

RedskinsFreak wrote:

ike075 wrote:I will sum it up in that I feel those who criticize Snyder are all Monday morning quarterbacks who are clearly very unappreciative of an owner who will reach deep into his own pocket and will spare no cost to make the redskins a winning team.

I'm stopping you right there because you have an incomplete assessment of what it is that fuels the anti-Snyder contingent.

It has NOTHING to do with not appreciating Snyder's willingness to "reach deep" and "spare no expense."

That's a no brainer. Every sports fan wants an owner with those traits. It's better than the alternative.

The tipping point is what you left out. A good owner needs willingness AND know-how. Snyder thought and still thinks he knows because he was a fan for all those years. He has stubbornly refused to take much of an education from the qualified football people he's had in Ashburn or from observation of the operations that have succeeded and played in Super Bowls.

Does he make mistakes and goes a little too far at time to achieve success? Sure,

But he refuses to learn from those mistakes and try something different. As I've always said, his biggest fault is in insistfulness for being seen as being responsible for the grand reclamation of Redskins Glory.

He gets more shiggles (smushed word that's a combo of [bleep] and giggles) from being as hands-on as he is than he would, yes I mean this, if someone else were to build an NFL champion.

He'd rather drive his car himself and finish 15th than let someone else drive it to Victory Lane.

Sorry but we will have to agree to disagree on your points and my proof is Snyder bringing back Gibbs. Gibbs should show his willingness AND know-how. I am not sure how looking at the past several coaches he brought in you can't say he has made mistakes and tried something different. Finally he borught in someone with experience and knoledge and he had as much of a hands off approach as any owner could (they are still the owner and must be involved)

Ikester

I too have been silent on "Coach Search 2008". This article is spot on. Good coaches are not lining up at the door to take this job. Look, the ideal senario would have been to give Gregg and Al a 2 or three year time frame (patience) to finish what Gibbs started. If the Skins crapped out in 2008 then make the whole sale change. Now we don't have a coach, 2007 assesment is delayed, who is draft/personnel planning? How are the players responding to this mess? That is realy a key issue for me I have not "seen or heard" anything out of Redskins park from players under contract for 2008. Team unity..... Is ther any left? To a man the players fully expected to have GW as the HC.
Well friends I am hoping for the best but preparing for the worst in 2008.

Does anyone have a spare 1.2 billion dollars to buy the Skins off Danny boy?

SkinsHead56 wrote:I too have been silent on "Coach Search 2008". This article is spot on. Good coaches are not lining up at the door to take this job. Look, the ideal senario would have been to give Gregg and Al a 2 or three year time frame (patience) to finish what Gibbs started. If the Skins crapped out in 2008 then make the whole sale change. Now we don't have a coach, 2007 assesment is delayed, who is draft/personnel planning? How are the players responding to this mess? That is realy a key issue for me I have not "seen or heard" anything out of Redskins park from players under contract for 2008. Team unity..... Is ther any left? To a man the players fully expected to have GW as the HC.
Well friends I am hoping for the best but preparing for the worst in 2008.

Does anyone have a spare 1.2 billion dollars to buy the Skins off Danny boy?

Name for us the known good coaches that were out there when Gibbs decided to retire. Besides Cowher who wanted to stay retired until 09 I couldn't come up with any.

I too wanted to see Williams has HC but when I dug deeper I had heard the main issue with Williams in Buffalo land was his temper and Gibbs had been able to keep him cool headed while he was around. They were able to keep consistency with giving Banche control of the Defense because if they didn't hire Williams as HC then it would be a slap in his face to keep him as DC. Saunders? The offence has been pathetic for the talent they have so I am not disappointed to see him go.

Ikester

wormer wrote:Sally Jenkins is 100% correct in this article.

"The Wrong Job for the Man"

By Sally Jenkins
Thursday, February 7, 2008; E01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 90_pf.html


If Steve Spagnuolo's friends really care about him, they'll advise him not to go near the Redskins job. "Run," they'll tell him. "Run away, now, as fast as you can." They'll tell him that in the New York Giants he has wise owners and a principled general manager who treat their people right. They'll tell him that Daniel Snyder isn't really looking for a head coach, he just wants to hire another butler.

It's unclear how seriously Spagnuolo, the Giants' defensive coordinator still flushed from his Super Bowl triumph, is being considered for the Redskins' head coaching position. All we know is that Spagnuolo is the latest victim of those interminable, cigar-filled, 20-hour interviews. But frankly, if there's any considering to be done, it's Spagnuolo who should be doing it. He's the one who should carefully size up Snyder, not vice versa. A job offer from Snyder isn't exactly a shortcut to head coaching success. Actually, it's been known to set careers back years.

If Spagnuolo's friends care about him, they'll spare him that old saw, "Dan Snyder just wants to win." No, he doesn't. He just wants to run things. If Snyder really wanted to win, he'd have gone after a different guy in the Giants' organization years ago: General Manager Jerry Reese. Spagnuolo is the hot, exciting hire of the day, but Reese was the bigger figure in the Giants' success, though in a more mundane and less visible way. As usual, Snyder's impressed by all the wrong things.

The difference between the Giants and the Redskins at this moment is striking. The divisional cousins split their regular season games, and both fought for wild-card playoff berths. Yet they couldn't be more dissimilar when it comes to good judgment. The Giants reflect how close, and yet how far, the Redskins really are from being a successful franchise.

A year ago, Giants Coach Tom Coughlin was on the brink of being fired despite getting the team to the playoffs twice. Veteran players were frustrated. There were doubts about whether quarterback Eli Manning would fulfill his promise.

What did owners John Mara and Steve Tisch do? They trusted the counsel of Reese, the first-year GM they had promoted after 12-plus years of service in the personnel department.

Reese, in turn, trusted Coughlin enough to give him a one-year contract extension. He stood by Manning. And he refused to make wholesale roster changes. "It wasn't the right thing to do," he said. "The right thing to do was take care of personnel already on the roster."

Instead, Reese concentrated on the draft, and showed what a knowledgeable personnel man with an expert eye can do for a team. All eight of the rookies he selected would contribute to the Giants' Super Bowl run. Wide receiver Steve Smith in the second round from Southern California? Okay, that was a pretty easy pick. Not so easy were tight end Kevin Boss from Western Oregon in the fifth round, or running back Ahmad Bradshaw from Marshall in the seventh. Each made huge plays in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. Then there was third-rounder Jay Alford from Penn State, whose spearing sack of Tom Brady with 25 seconds left all but cinched the victory. And those were just the stars of the class.

A total of 23 players drafted by Reese over the last few years are on the Giants' roster -- nearly half the team. David Tyree, who merely made one of the biggest catches in Super Bowl history, was a sixth-round pick in 2003. Two of the defensive linemen who made Spagnuolo look so brilliant, Justin Tuck (Notre Dame, third round, 2005) and Osi Umenyiora (Troy, second round, 2003), also were his picks.

Spagnuolo should consider all of that carefully, and then ask himself some questions:

Do you think for a moment Snyder would have retained Coughlin last year? (No. He would have fired him.)

Do you think Snyder would have stuck by Manning after three mediocre seasons? (No. He'd have traded him.)

Do you think for a moment that Snyder and his surrogate, Executive Vice President-Football Operations Vinny Cerrato, could have found the lower-round rookies who made such critical contributions in the Super Bowl? (Ha.)

If Spagnuolo is smart, he'll stay put with the Giants and learn as much as he can from them about how good upper management operates. Another, better head coaching job will come along in time, one in which his owner doesn't impose his assistant coaches on him, or tell him whom to play at quarterback.

It's a bitter shame to say this, given how much it surely pains local fans, but the truth is that Redskins Park is no place for someone with a bright future. It's too dark and dysfunctional. The phrase "coach killer" comes to mind. No good one, except possibly Joe Gibbs, has had a decent experience under Snyder, not Norv Turner, Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier, Al Saunders or Gregg Williams. Which is why the only people who seem to be realistically entertaining the job now are either those desperate to get back in the game, such as Jim Fassel and Steve Mariucci, or climbers looking for their first head coaching office.


There is a consistent, central weakness in the Redskins' organization that no coach can fix. It's Snyder's tycoon mentality, his assumption that he can purchase people and make them do what he wants, and if they displease him, discard them. His paycheck players and presto coaching solutions fail every time. The franchise is based on a series of extravagant bribes, not a dime of which has ever been spent on the qualities that made the Giants into Super Bowl champions, namely good faith, loyalty, patience, unity and, above all, belief in the leadership at the top.

"Believe!" the Giants defenders shouted at their teammates on the sideline as Manning and the offense took the field for the game-winning drive. Everyone believed. Mara and Tisch believed in Reese, who believed in Coughlin, who believed in the players, who believed back.

Who, at this point, believes in Snyder? Run, Spagnuolo. Run, as fast as you can.

I read just a few sentences and I had enough. Look, nobody is perfect and yes Dan Snyder has made some mistakes but who hasn't. Dan Snyder thought he was doing the right thing by going after proven ball players and paying them alot of money. I wish I had a boss that would pay me like Dan Snyder. With that being said it is the ultimate responsibility for the player to go out and play to his ability and what we have seen is players take his money and run. Its not his fault that players have taken advantage of him. Say what you want but everybody knows that Snyder pays his players very well. I don't know what more you want from him all I know is that he is trying and he is getting all this critisim which he does not deserve. There are owners in the NFL that are terrible and should be heavily critised but no they just give them a pass, but Dan Snyder not him. I wish people would take a step back and just look at what Dan Snyder has done and what he has tried to do. All I can say if you can't respect Dan Snyder and what he is doing go find another team because when we win a Superbowl I don't want to hear from you.

The Washington media is doing more damage to the Redskins than Snyder ever has and this includes Riggo, Mr. Waffle himself! They are trying to stir up a panic with the fans, they are spin doctoring things to make Snyder look bad, and in the process they are hurting the Skins.

Snyder is doing a fantastic job of making himself look like a moron and the Skins look like a joke. He doesn't need the media's help to do that. And if you think that the media is bad here, if the Giants very going through this type of coaching search they would be getting blasted 24/7 by the Post, the Daily News, Newsday, WFAN, and every other media outlet in the tri-state area. The DC sports media is tame compared to other markets.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

The Washington media is doing more damage to the Redskins than Snyder ever has and this includes Riggo, Mr. Waffle himself! They are trying to stir up a panic with the fans, they are spin doctoring things to make Snyder look bad, and in the process they are hurting the Skins.

Snyder is doing a fantastic job of making himself look like a moron and the Skins look like a joke. He doesn't need the media's help to do that. And if you think that the media is bad here, if the Giants very going through this type of coaching search they would be getting blasted 24/7 by the Post, the Daily News, Newsday, WFAN, and every other media outlet in the tri-state area. The DC sports media is tame compared to other markets.

Jerkins is from NY. Oh and boy did they criticize the Giants owner when they kept coughland after last season. I guess we see who knew better.

Ikester

Name for us the known good coaches that were out there when Gibbs decided to retire. Besides Cowher who wanted to stay retired until 09 I couldn't come up with any.

Russ Grimm

ike075 wrote:Sorry but we will have to agree to disagree on your points and my proof is Snyder bringing back Gibbs. Gibbs should show his willingness AND know-how.

But his experience, know-how and iconic status should have been the final step of the process. No 'consultation' with the owner. And especially not with No-Success-Ever Vinny.

Gibbs' word -- and his alone -- should have been the final word on All Things Football. The owner should have 100% trust to let that stand on its own and just say "Make it so."

But this owner doesn't. He doesn't trust anyone else to the point where they can make autonomous decisions about what happens with his football team.

The owner should set general parameters for the financial -- it IS his money after all -- and 'personality' traits he wants his team to have but then allow his (Wilbon term here) Boss of All Things Football to freely operate within those parameters without running every decision up the food chain for approval.

I can agree and disagree with what most everyone has to say. Almost all of what Salley Jenkins says I have seen in various posts on THN. There is nothing new in her assessment. I can't say that I agree with Dan Snyders methods of doing things but I also can not fault him for his efforts. I think he just goes about it the wrong way. The results bare this out.

In hindsight, I will not even acknowledge that bringing Gibbs back was a wise move for the growth of the Redskins as a franchise. When Gibbs left, he can point to 2 appearances in the post season to support his image as a HoF coach. In reality, he did not do any more than any other coach could have done to improve the Redskins. For most of Gibbs 2nd tenure, the Redskins were constantly in turmoil personnel wise, i.e. Arrington, Pierce, Ramsey, Brunell, Archuleta, LLoyd and a couple others whose names escape me, like the running back that he traded a draft pick for and then sat on the bench for the year. Remember these guys and the internal strife caused by their various situations? Don't tell me that those issues did not affect the other players.

I don't know who the new Head Coch will be. My choice was Gregg Williams but he has moved on, so I will to. Regardless of who the new Head Coach is, I will hope and pray that he can pick up the pieces (players, coaches and owner) of this team, put them together and make it once again the dominating force it once was. There is a nucleous here that can be molded and shaped to perform better tha they have.

I will make sure that I watch every Redskins game, yell and scream, accuse the refs of being paid off when they loose and extoll the teams superior abilities when they win.

Well, here's a thread title that's guaranteed not to draw me in.

Sally Jenkins might have her own agenda, but if you look at the situation objectively, how wrong is she? All of us here are diehard Redskins fans. We might disagree with how the team show be run, what players should be signed, who should be the coach, etc. Anyone here would love to the Head Coach of the Redskins, even if it means working for Snyder. However, if you are a coach that isn't desperate for a job like Jim Fassel, just how attractive is this Redskins job? If you were getting your first NFL head coaching job (like Spagnuolo) would you really want to work for Snyder and Vinny?

For starters, you have very questionable job security. Norv got the boot (yes he sucked) during the season while the team was 7-6. How many coaches in NFL history have been fired during the season with a record above .500? Marty got canned despite going .500 with a team that wasn't all that talented. Would you feel comfortable knowing that .500 might get you fired after your first season?

You don't get to pick your own staff or have much of a say in player personnel issues.

A lot of your success on the field is going to depend on the ability of Vinny Cerrato to scout players, draft players, and sign free agents. Scary thought, no?

You will work for an owner who in the past has behaved like a petulant child. Why go and talk to your coaches when you can just send your defensive coordinator a huge container of multi-flavored ice cream to show him that you think his schemes are too vanilla? Ask Mike Nolan how much he liked being treated that way.

Yes Snyder will spend money to try and make the team better. But how much good will that do the head coach when most of the decisions being made aren't the right ones?