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Official Spagnuolo Thread/He's Staying in NY
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:05 pm
by spudstr04
Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo will interview for the Redskins' head coaching job early next week, according to the New York Daily News.
This was widely expected. The Redskins will host Spagnuolo on either Monday or Tuesday of next week. If the Giants upset the Patriots, Spags could vault past several other candidates who are on Dan Snyder's short list.
Source: New York Daily News
http://www.rotoworld.com
Re: Spagnuolo to meet with Snyder...
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:46 pm
by por-tiz2skins
spudstr04 wrote:Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo will interview for the Redskins' head coaching job early next week, according to the New York Daily News.
This was widely expected. The Redskins will host Spagnuolo on either Monday or Tuesday of next week. If the Giants upset the Patriots, Spags could vault past several other candidates who are on Dan Snyder's short list.
Source: New York Daily News
http://www.rotoworld.com
I don't want any more un exprince HC here.
Yes to Fassel or Mooch.
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:50 pm
by 1niksder
Even "the Danny" wouldn't have a Defensive minded HC with a OC that has never been a OC run the offense. It'll be Fassel
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:05 pm
by Sir_Monk
Even "the Danny" wouldn't have a Defensive minded HC with a OC that has never been a OC run the offense. It'll be Fassel
If the Giants win the SB, anything is possible.
Re: Spagnuolo to meet with Snyder...
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:45 pm
by Redskin in Canada
por-tiz2skins wrote:Yes to Fassel or Mooch.
I think you would be better than any of these two.
RiC proposes por-tiz2skins for HC of the Washington Redskins. His OK with the Xs and Os cause he maks a lot of since.

Re: Spagnuolo to meet with Snyder...
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:57 pm
by CanesSkins26
Redskin in Canada wrote:por-tiz2skins wrote:Yes to Fassel or Mooch.
I think you would be better than any of these two.
RiC proposes por-tiz2skins for HC of the Washington Redskins. His OK with the Xs and Os cause he maks a lot of since.

If we are nominating posters to be coaches, can I throw my support behind Redeemed for the position of qb coach.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:04 am
by gibbsfan
1niksder wrote:Even "the Danny" wouldn't have a Defensive minded HC with a OC that has never been a OC run the offense. It'll be Fassel
that what my gut feeling tells me as well. all of this speculation of mooch and josh mcdaniels etc it will be fassel.
i will be alright with mooch or fassel as our head coach
Re: Spagnuolo to meet with Snyder...
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:16 am
by SkinsJock
CanesSkins26 wrote:Redskin in Canada wrote:por-tiz2skins wrote:Yes to Fassel or Mooch.
I think you would be better than any of these two.
RiC proposes por-tiz2skins for HC of the Washington Redskins. His OK with the Xs and Os cause he maks a lot of since.

If we are nominating posters to be coaches, can I throw my support behind Redeemed for the position of qb coach.

I'll second that nomination

Re: Spagnuolo to meet with Snyder...
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:25 am
by skinsfan#33
SkinsJock wrote:CanesSkins26 wrote:Redskin in Canada wrote:por-tiz2skins wrote:Yes to Fassel or Mooch.
I think you would be better than any of these two.
RiC proposes por-tiz2skins for HC of the Washington Redskins. His OK with the Xs and Os cause he maks a lot of since.

If we are nominating posters to be coaches, can I throw my support behind Redeemed for the position of qb coach.

I'll second that nomination

All in favor raise your 40 year old left arms and say Aye! (Ok, now put them down before they get tired)
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:17 pm
by UK Skins Fan
On the subject of Spagnuolo, I found this snippet that I wasn't aware of:
His first NFL experience came in 1983 as an intern with the Washington Redskins under then-assistant general manager Charlie Casserly.
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http://www.giants.com/news/eisen/story.asp?story_id=24311)
So, there you have it - he's been a Redskin all along. The performance of his defence against the Patriots definitely makes him well worthy of an interview, but I don't see how he'd be a good fit in Washington. It would mean a change of defensive scheme, which blows away the only remaining continuity we have.
Spagnuolo - Redskins connection
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:22 pm
by hogproud
I'm starting to warm up to this cat. Not sure how Greg Blache's presence impacts his candidacy, however, based on the Super Bowl...this guy clearly knows how to pepare a team. Here's a closer look at a couple of unique ties to the Redskins AND his extensive experience within the division.
SPAGNUOLO AT A GLANCE
1982-83……………Massachusetts……………graduate Assistant
1983……………….Washington Redskins……player personnel intern
1984-86……………Lafayette…………………defensive line/special teams
1987-91……………Connecticut……………..defensive coordinator/defensive backs
1992……………….Barcelona Dragons………defensive line/special teams
1993……………….San Diego Chargers……..scout (under Bobby Beathard)
1993-94……………Maine…………………defensive coordinator/def. backs/linebackers
1994-95……………Rutgers………………….defensive backs
1996-97……………Bowling Green………….defensive backs
1998……………….Frankfurt Galaxy………..defensive coordinator/linebackers
1999-00……………Philadelphia Eagles……..defensive assistant
2001-03……………Philadelphia Eagles……..defensive backs
2004-06……………Philadelphia Eagles……..linebackers
2007……………….New York Giants……….defensive coordinator
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:49 pm
by Hog Heaven
I like seeing all his play calling experience. He also has coached every group of defensive players at one time, so he should be more than just Xs and Os, and know how each position should be played on D. You also made a good point about how he has lots of experience in the division. I'd still prefer Bill C, Grimm, or Mooch, but he's not a bad choice. Most of the other names out there scare me though.
Re: Spagnuolo - Redskins connection
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:02 pm
by riggofan
hogproud wrote:however, based on the Super Bowl...this guy clearly knows how to pepare a team.
Really? Where on his resume do you read that he has had experience preparing an entire team?
Re: Spagnuolo - Redskins connection
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:26 pm
by langleyparkjoe
riggofan wrote:hogproud wrote:however, based on the Super Bowl...this guy clearly knows how to pepare a team.
Really? Where on his resume do you read that he has had experience preparing an entire team?
Yea, I'm thinking he did a super job against the Pats in the bowl but he didn't really have a hand in the offense; so to say he can prepare a whole team is yet to be seen. However, wasn't this his first year with the Gnats? I'm not saying he isn't a good defensive coach but he's never been a head coach before and I'd rather have someone with that kind of experience. I don't agree with "experimenting" on first timers when IMO we need someone who knows how to lead and has done so before.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:26 pm
by jazzskins
UK Skins Fan wrote:So, there you have it - he's been a Redskin all along. The performance of his defence against the Patriots definitely makes him well worthy of an interview, but I don't see how he'd be a good fit in Washington. It would mean a change of defensive scheme, which blows away the only remaining continuity we have.
How would the scheme change?
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:44 pm
by hogproud
Yea, I'm thinking he did a super job against the Pats in the bowl but he didn't really have a hand in the offense; so to say he can prepare a whole team is yet to be seen.
Umm...ya, I didn't mean the WHOLE team. Perhaps I should've been more clear:
As the DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR, he did a nice job of preparing HIS defense. I thought they played an okay game against the Patriots and did an okay job of game planning
As for "experimenting" on first timers...this is just not a very good barometer on judging potential head coaches. By that rationale, the Joe Gibbs experiment in 1981 would have never happened.
I'm not out in front carrying the Spagnuolo flag...I'm just saying he was VERY impressive in his first season as a coordinator and the Redskins would be foolish not to look at him. The interview on Tuesday is obviously warranted...if for nothing else, a fact-finding mission on one of your great rivals.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:40 pm
by aswas71788
While we can congratulate the Giants on their Super Bowl win, winning it does not qualify their coaches as head coaches. If Spagnuolo is selected because his team won the Super Bowl rather than the perception of his ability to lead the Redskins, it is the wrong reason to select him.
So far on THN, posters have been "positive" that several coaches would be the final Head Coach. Let's wait and see who is finally selected.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:41 pm
by riggofan
aswas71788 wrote:While we can congratulate the Giants on their Super Bowl win, winning it does not qualify their coaches as head coaches. If Spagnuolo is selected because his team won the Super Bowl rather than the perception of his ability to lead the Redskins, it is the wrong reason to select him.
EXACTLY. You nailed it.
On the good side, Spagnuolo isn't a retread. He's fairly young. I like that he was on the Eagles staff all those years. As much as I hate the Eagles, I have a lot of respect for Andy Reid and that crew.
And if it would hurt Antonio Pierce's feelings to see him leave, sounds good to me too. Man that guy is like some needy ex-girlfriend or something. Get over it, dude.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:47 pm
by chiefhog44
riggofan wrote:aswas71788 wrote:While we can congratulate the Giants on their Super Bowl win, winning it does not qualify their coaches as head coaches. If Spagnuolo is selected because his team won the Super Bowl rather than the perception of his ability to lead the Redskins, it is the wrong reason to select him.
EXACTLY. You nailed it.
On the good side, Spagnuolo isn't a retread. He's fairly young. I like that he was on the Eagles staff all those years. As much as I hate the Eagles, I have a lot of respect for Andy Reid and that crew.
Does he come from that line of coaches??? I totally didn't make the connection. Maybe this is a bigger link to Blache and Zorn than I first thought. He's in that family of coaches, is he not?
The coaches under Holmgren were Mooch, Blache, Zorn, Reid, Mornhinweg, Childress, Gruden among others. The keys being Blache and Zorn. Under Reid is Spag's. Would this be a fit?
Fassel is not even close to making sense for this team. Mooch and Spag's make total sense.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:39 am
by RayNAustin
Keeping in mind that Gibbs was an unproven offensive coordinator when he became the HC of the Skins in 1981, I don't necessarily agree that we need somebody else's ex-head coach.
Spagnoulo certainly shows that he is a great strategist by shutting down the Pats offense (the pass rush certainly made the job much easier, but.....). And that is what you really need to be great at as a head coach.....a great strategy for beating your opponents.
One thing is sure, there is no such thing as a sure thing, and you have to take risks. I think Spagnoulo would be a justifiable risk. He might just be the next great coach waiting for an opportunity to show it.
The only downside to hiring Spagnoulo is that Zorn has no experience as an OC either, which is where the Redskins will likely need the most help from the HC, therefore an a candidate with extensive offensive experience would be a safer bet from that standpoint.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:00 pm
by Fios
Please post any speculation about Spagnulo here
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:24 pm
by DEHog
Not sure he's qualified...guys like Osi, Strahan and Tuck would make most coasches look good...gotta respect what he did during the playoff run. I think Snyder had made the Redskins job less attractive these days. Will be interesting to see !. If he wants the job and 2. What Snyder is willing to pay??
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:32 pm
by cleg
As the game progressed the other night all I could think about was The Danny hiring this new toy. It is just sad that he cannot understand after almost a decade of how to build a winner - all he has to do is look at the two teams in the super bowl to see. ugh
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:05 pm
by JansenFan
My first thought is the same thought I had about Jason Garrett. He had a good year, but he's only had one year as an NFL coordinator. I think it's a big risk, ala Norv Turner.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:02 pm
by CanesSkins26
JansenFan wrote:My first thought is the same thought I had about Jason Garrett. He had a good year, but he's only had one year as an NFL coordinator. I think it's a big risk, ala Norv Turner.
I see what you are saying. However, do you think that it is more of a risk than hiring a coach that has been fired from his last 2 jobs (Fassel)?