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Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis has been pushing for Lane Kiffin to resign as his head coach and is considering Dennis Green as a potential replacement, sources close to Kiffin and the team said.

Davis has gone so far to draft a letter of resignation for Kiffin to sign, a source said. Kiffin has refused to do so but has dared Davis to fire him instead. The letter, the source said, was sent to Kiffin two weeks ago.




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Kiffin, who was 4-12 in his first season as coach, has two years remaining on his contract at an estimated $2 million per year.

In the letter sent to Kiffin's legal representatives, sources said Davis stated that only he would have control over his staff and full personnel decisions. According to a source close to Kiffin, Davis had promised Kiffin when he hired him that he would have more control over staff and personnel matters than recent Raiders coaches. Kiffin was allowed fire offensive assistants and to name his own staff when he took the job after the 2006 season.

"I'm not going to comment on anything that has transpired in the past three weeks," Kiffin said from Mobile, Ala., where he and the Raiders staff are coaching the North team in the Under Armour Senior Bowl college all-star game.

The Raiders had no immediate comment.

Kiffn and Davis clashed near the conclusion of their postseason evaluation meetings when Kiffin expressed his desire to fire defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, a source said. Ryan himself wanted out to join the New York Jets in a similar capacity, but the Raiders released a statement asking for speculation to cease about the defensive coordinator's future.

Just this week at the Senior Bowl, Kiffin and Ryan both said their relationship was fine and expected to be coaching the team in 2008. However, Davis has not rescinded his request for Kiffin to step down, a source said.

As for Green's candidacy, while team sources said Davis has reached out to the veteran coach, Green said Friday, "I haven't really talked to Al about any coaching job but, really, how many times has my name been mentioned every time something goes on with the Raiders?"

The Raiders will interview James Lofton on Monday for a job, a source said. The Raiders are looking for a wide receivers coach and Lofton was recently fired as San Diego's receivers coach. However, Lofton has interviewed in the past to be head coach of the Raiders.


Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN.

Al Davis what a scumbag, he needs to sell the team.

Hey, as bad as our coaching debacle has been, at least we are not the Raiders. On Sirius NFL radio, they just mentioned that Al Davis is really interested in Jim Fassel.

Sir_Monk wrote:Hey, as bad as our coaching debacle has been, at least we are not the Raiders. On Sirius NFL radio, they just mentioned that Al Davis is really interested in Jim Fassel.

What I don't unerstand is that Kiffin was starting to get this thing turned around and headed in the right direction and boom Al Davis drops a bomb and what a coward Al Davis is by doing this by letter.

The Oakland Raiders: Owner now 75% Robot!

The succes or failure of a team starts at the top. No wonder the Raiders are where they are. Not that we can boast much about our situation though ...

Al Davis is a senile old fool. Why would Kiffin resign when Davis owes him $4 million over the next two says.

Yeah Al Davis is senile. Thank God that he is not our owner

jeremyroyce wrote:Yeah Al Davis is senile. Thank God that he is not our owner

At least Davis has an excuse for his irrational behavior.

yupchagee wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:Yeah Al Davis is senile. Thank God that he is not our owner

At least Davis has an excuse for his irrational behavior.

Dude, if you don't like Daniel Snyder the go find another team

Maybe we can sign Kiffin to be OC when he gets fired

Dude, if you don't like Daniel Snyder the go find another team

What does liking Dan have to do with being a Redskins fan? I guarantee you that there are lots of diehard fans that hate Snyder.

Al Davis is such a piece of crap.

I mean seriously, this guy is so impatient and flat out stupid.

Makes me ashamed to be somewhat of a Raiders fan...

jeremyroyce wrote:

yupchagee wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:Yeah Al Davis is senile. Thank God that he is not our owner

At least Davis has an excuse for his irrational behavior.

Dude, if you don't like Daniel Snyder the go find another team

I've been a Redskins fan longer than Snyder has been alive. Why should I change

skinsrule84 wrote:Al Davis is such a piece of crap.

I mean seriously, this guy is so impatient and flat out stupid.

Makes me ashamed to be somewhat of a Raiders fan...

Like I heard on the radio:

At least Al Davis is 80 yrs. old.

Let that one set in a little, and now you can begin grieving for the Skins.

At least Al Davis won the Super Bowl a few times when he was a young, spry, maverick owner, what has Snyder done?

CanesSkins26 wrote:

Dude, if you don't like Daniel Snyder the go find another team

What does liking Dan have to do with being a Redskins fan? I guarantee you that there are lots of diehard fans that hate Snyder.

What has Daniel Snyder done to the Redskins to destroy the Redskins? Why don't you fault the coaches (Except for Gibbs) and players for taking Snyder's money and running and not doing their jobs. You guys are just looking for someone to blame and Dan Snyder is easy because he is the owner. I tell you what I would love to work for someone that would pay me the kind of money that Snyder has dished out. Say what you want but Snyder has tried what other owners haven't, There are fans of other teams wishing that their owners would do what they are watching Snyder do however at the end of the day Snyder does not play or coach all he can do is do the best that he can do to improve our football team which he has tried. So if you don't like OUR OWNER then move along and find yourself a new team.

yupchagee wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:

yupchagee wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:Yeah Al Davis is senile. Thank God that he is not our owner

At least Davis has an excuse for his irrational behavior.

Dude, if you don't like Daniel Snyder the go find another team

I've been a Redskins fan longer than Snyder has been alive. Why should I change

Change is always good.

jeremyroyce wrote:

yupchagee wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:

yupchagee wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:Yeah Al Davis is senile. Thank God that he is not our owner

At least Davis has an excuse for his irrational behavior.

Dude, if you don't like Daniel Snyder the go find another team

I've been a Redskins fan longer than Snyder has been alive. Why should I change

Change is always good.

Never equate change with progress.

yupchagee wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:

yupchagee wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:

yupchagee wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:Yeah Al Davis is senile. Thank God that he is not our owner

At least Davis has an excuse for his irrational behavior.

Dude, if you don't like Daniel Snyder the go find another team

I've been a Redskins fan longer than Snyder has been alive. Why should I change

Change is always good.

Never equate change with progress.

Progress is not on Dan Snyder. Dan Snyder has tried to get this team to progress. You people need to get off Dan Snyder back and appreciate him for what he has done. There are MANY examples but let me give you one example here where I think that Dan Snyder has been taking advantage of but nobody wants to talk about this. Joe Gibbs went to Dan Snyder and told him he wanted Brandon Lloyd so Snyder goes and makes a trade for him and gives Brandon a new contract and gives him more money, what happened? Joe Gibbs and the coaching staff NEVER gave Brandon Lloyd a CHANCE. They DIDN'T play him. Don't tell me that they played him or gave him a chance because that is b.s. So, now Snyder is on the hook to pay him. Then you have Greg Williams who wanted Adam Archuleta. He went to Daniel Snyder and said that he had to have this guy and what happened Snyder made it happen and gave Adam a big contract. So, what happened? It never made to the Regular season and Adam was on the bench. They DIDN'T play him. So, again Snyder was on the hook because the coaching staff didn't want to play these men that they desperately wanted and now he has to pay these men top dollars sitting on the bench. Yeah, real fair?

jeremyroyce wrote:I tell you what I would love to work for someone that would pay me the kind of money that Snyder has dished out.

Isn't that what a golddigger would say?

No one has issues with how much money Snyder throws around. It's his management style that has contributed in large part to the struggles this franchise has experienced during his time as owner.

While, yes, I agree, he should not carry ALL the blame for the team's woes, he is the easiest target, since both he and Vincenzo have been the only constants since Snyder took over.

No amount of money should ever make one ignore the facts.

Progress is not on Dan Snyder. Dan Snyder has tried to get this team to progress. You people need to get off Dan Snyder back and appreciate him for what he has done. There are MANY examples but let me give you one example here where I think that Dan Snyder has been taking advantage of but nobody wants to talk about this. Joe Gibbs went to Dan Snyder and told him he wanted Brandon Lloyd so Snyder goes and makes a trade for him and gives Brandon a new contract and gives him more money, what happened? Joe Gibbs and the coaching staff NEVER gave Brandon Lloyd a CHANCE. They DIDN'T play him. Don't tell me that they played him or gave him a chance because that is b.s. So, now Snyder is on the hook to pay him. Then you have Greg Williams who wanted Adam Archuleta. He went to Daniel Snyder and said that he had to have this guy and what happened Snyder made it happen and gave Adam a big contract. So, what happened? It never made to the Regular season and Adam was on the bench. They DIDN'T play him. So, again Snyder was on the hook because the coaching staff didn't want to play these men that they desperately wanted and now he has to pay these men top dollars sitting on the bench. Yeah, real fair?

This is where Snyder needs to learn restraint, no one told him to give these guys that much $$$$ Hence the need for a true GM
Do you run out and buy your kids everything they want??

Besides being willing to spend money is one of Snyders best attributes as an owner...so i've been told!


jeremyroyce wrote:

I tell you what I would love to work for someone that would pay me the kind of money that Snyder has dished out.

I would love to work at something I love to do...If I get paid that's a bonus. If I felt it wasn't enough..or I wanted to make more..I'd work harder???

DEHog wrote:

Progress is not on Dan Snyder. Dan Snyder has tried to get this team to progress. You people need to get off Dan Snyder back and appreciate him for what he has done. There are MANY examples but let me give you one example here where I think that Dan Snyder has been taking advantage of but nobody wants to talk about this. Joe Gibbs went to Dan Snyder and told him he wanted Brandon Lloyd so Snyder goes and makes a trade for him and gives Brandon a new contract and gives him more money, what happened? Joe Gibbs and the coaching staff NEVER gave Brandon Lloyd a CHANCE. They DIDN'T play him. Don't tell me that they played him or gave him a chance because that is b.s. So, now Snyder is on the hook to pay him. Then you have Greg Williams who wanted Adam Archuleta. He went to Daniel Snyder and said that he had to have this guy and what happened Snyder made it happen and gave Adam a big contract. So, what happened? It never made to the Regular season and Adam was on the bench. They DIDN'T play him. So, again Snyder was on the hook because the coaching staff didn't want to play these men that they desperately wanted and now he has to pay these men top dollars sitting on the bench. Yeah, real fair?

This is where Snyder needs to learn restraint, no one told him to give these guys that much $$$$ Hence the need for a true GM
Do you run out and buy your kids everything they want??

Besides being willing to spend money is one of Snyders best attributes as an owner...so i've been told!


jeremyroyce wrote:

I tell you what I would love to work for someone that would pay me the kind of money that Snyder has dished out.

I would love to work at something I love to do...If I get paid that's a bonus. If I felt it wasn't enough..or I wanted to make more..I'd work harder???

I do agree with you on that Dan Snyder does need to learn restraint, and again thats a mistake that he made, but the coaches don't have an excuse and can't say well Snyder never let us get the players we wanted. Ok so he made a mistake and hopefully he can learn from this but besides from that what is all the fuss about Daniel Snyder? What is it going to take for you to appreciate him? Is it going to take him selling the team to someone that doesn't care a hoot about the Redskins and then that guy moves the Redskins somewhere far away and then maybe changes their name like several owners in the league? I tell you what you look at the Houton Oilers, The Original Cleveland Browns (Now the Balitimore Ravens), also the Oakland Raiders moving back and forth. Just by seeing this and how devasted the fans were losing their team, I would much rather have Dan Snyder being our owner then some scumbag that doesn't care about the team that he is running. Sure Dan Snyder is young and he has made is share of mistakes, but who hasn't? But I do know one thing he loves the Redskins and he will do anything that he can do for us to be a dominant football team and win the Superbowl. Who knows maybe we can be the next dynasty that wins 3 or 4 Superbowls in the next 10 years. Stay Tuned

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:I tell you what I would love to work for someone that would pay me the kind of money that Snyder has dished out.

Isn't that what a golddigger would say?

No one has issues with how much money Snyder throws around. It's his management style that has contributed in large part to the struggles this franchise has experienced during his time as owner.

While, yes, I agree, he should not carry ALL the blame for the team's woes, he is the easiest target, since both he and Vincenzo have been the only constants since Snyder took over.

No amount of money should ever make one ignore the facts.

Ok. So let me ask you something. How come nobody is talking about what the Redskins did before Dan Snyder took over? How about right after Joe Gibbs retired and Richie Petitbon took over for a year and then in comes Norv Turner and from 1993-2000 our record was 54-73-1. Now if you ask me in that time before Dan Snyder took over we were a miserable football team. Just to name a few people that were drafted or players that we had that I think what the heck are we doing here Heath Shuler, Gus Frerotte, Rod Gardner, Michael Westbrook, but nobody really remembers those days, I sure do and it sucked. But atleast with Dan Snyder he has tried to improve this team and yes he has made mistakes but I tell you what I would rather have Dan Snyder then go back to 1993-2000 again and watch that all over again. Since Dan Snyder has taken over lets look at the players that we have picked up that have been very important for our franchise. I will start with SEAN TAYLOR, MARCUS WASHINGTON, SANTANA MOSS, CLINTON PORTIS, CHRIS COOLEY, PHILIP DANIELS, SHAWN SPRINGS, just to name a few. I don't know why all this fuss but Dan Snyder took over a team that had imploded, and was struggling, went through three sub-par coaches, brought back Joe Gibbs, and 2005 made it to the second round of the playoffs, and last year in 2007 we made it to the first round of the playoffs even know that we went through a tragedy in losing Sean Taylor. When Dan Snyder bought the Redskins he bought them for 800 million dollars. In 2005 Forbes had the Redskins ranked as the National Football League's most valuable franchise, worth $1.3 billion That made the Redskins one of the most valuable professional sports franchises in the world. In 2006 the Redskins were worth 1.423 billion, an increase of 13 percent over 2005, and the Redskins in 2006 had led that list for seven straight years. Where do you think that we would be today if someone else bought the Redskins? I don't know about you but I am atleast going to give Dan Snyder a fair chance, and if there is ever a time in my life that I say Dan Snyder needs to sell the team, I will never be ashamed to be a Redskins fan.

am I missing something here I wanted to catch up with what is happening in Oakland and ............

SkinsJock wrote:am I missing something here I wanted to catch up with what is happening in Oakland and ............

Hey I am sorry all I said is thank God Al Davis is not our owner and then thats what started the whole thing Daniel Snyder debate