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JLC wrote:Everyone here at Redskins Park is pretty stunned. One staff member who was in the room at 9 a.m. when Joe Gibbs informed the coaches of his decision said: "I am shocked and numb." The strong sentiment from the players and people here I spoke to today is that Gregg Williams should get the job, and that's coming from offensive and defensive players alike.

One former Redskin, who speaks daily to many of his former teammates, said: "It has to be Gregg, there's no doubt about it. If they go from outside guys will be pissed. Unless they want to tear up the team and go with a different group of guys, it has to be Gregg."

Spoke to some people close to Russ Grimm, a former Redskin and longtime esteemed NFL assistant, who said his current team, Arizona, had not been contacted by the Redskins. Of course, we are very early in the process so things could change. Bill Cowher, former Super Bowl coach with Pittsburgh, will be a name everyone talks about as well.

Jason Reid just spent some time alone with starting WR Antwaan Randle El, who played on Cowher's championship team in Pittsburgh. Randle El voiced strong support for Gregg Williams: "I want the best coach for the job and Gregg is certainly at the top of the list, no doubt. I would love to see him get it just 'cause we've gotten going with the crew that we have here. I would love to see Gregg keep it and let's keep our offensive coordinator. Let's keep all that intact."

Gibbs would commit to virtually nothing during his press conference Monday, but did say that he wanted to retain the coaching staff. As most are in their final year of the contract - and some, like LB Coach Kirk Olivadati, have contracts that are expiring - there would have to be a round of contract extensions in that case.

Spoke to the agents for several prominant coaches and coaching candidates this morning. They all said they believed Williams would get the job, but that was just their reading of the situation and did not come from conversations with Gibbs or Snyder.

Snyder loves Joe and no doubt Gibbs's voice will carry heavy weight with ownership.

Link

Danny is a liar.And always has been sneaky.But remember these rumours.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/w ... index.html
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/category ... ng-to-d-c/
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/01/ ... -joe-gibb/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19317780/
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/IS_Bill_Cowhe ... n_Redskins


Well as much as I loved Gibbs he probably would of never gotten us to the superbowl just yet.Although I thought also he could off but lets face it,Bill Cowher at this point is better.

I would love to have him here he developes young players real good.
Other coaches that our free.





Jason Garrett Dallas Cowboys Offensive coordinator
Garrett is a hot name because of his impact on the development of Tony Romo. He's a candidate in Baltimore and Atlanta, but the team that gets him might have to wait until after the Super Bowl if the Cowboys win two playoff games.


Brian Billick Ex-Ravens coach
Billick is a big name and he's a winner. He's still stunned by his firing from the Ravens, but his résumé is hard to ignore. Having worked in Baltimore, he knows the media market, which is an asset for the owner.


Jim Caldwell Indianapolis Colts Assistant head coach/QB coach
Caldwell brings The Tony Dungy Effect to a franchise. He is calm and stoic. Peyton Manning speaks about his understated value to the offense. Caldwell is a lead candidate in Atlanta and is drawing strong consideration from the Ravens.


Russ Grimm Arizona Cardinals Assistant head coach/offensive line coach
Snyder scored points with Redskins fans by hiring the Redskins' Hall of Fame coach, so why not hire one of their greatest offensive linemen? Grimm was a candidate for jobs in Chicago and Pittsburgh and is clearly ready to take the step into head coaching.


Mike Singletary San Francisco 49ers Assistant head coach/linebackers coach
A Hall of Famer, Singletary is probably going to get an interview for the Falcons' job soon. He has been groomed the past couple seasons to be a head coach.

Rex Ryan Baltimore Ravens Defensive coordinator
Ravens players are campaigning for him to be head coach, and he reportedly had a great interview with Baltimore over the weekend.

I really think that Cowher is the best option for the Redskins

jeremyroyce wrote:I really think that Cowher is the best option for the Redskins

Yea,he recently won a superbowl and knows the era better.

Can anybody please have some mercy on us and lock this brain dead thread?

Please? Thanks for your kindness in advance.

RiC

screw cowher
his offense is boring and the refs gave him a super bowl win.

Redskin in Canada wrote:Can anybody please have some mercy on us and lock this brain dead thread?

Please? Thanks for your kindness in advance.

RiC

I second that...

por-tiz2skins wrote:Jason Garrett Dallas Cowboys Offensive coordinator
Garrett is a hot name because of his impact on the development of Tony Romo.

Oh hell no, we fell for that one before. Just change out those two names and replace them with Norv Turner and Troy Aikman. we have already been bit by that one.

Why are people so quick to say Cowher is the man for the job. First of all, he's already said he does NOT want to coach next season. Cowher served under the Rooney family in Pittsburgh for a number of years, and to expect him to come out of retirement to coach under Dan Snyder, after serving under Rooney, is a fate worse than death. It's NOT going to happen.

Second of all, why is Cowher the "best" option? Sure, he won a Super Bowl...but does anyone remember his losing seasons? Does anyone remember Cowher almost permanently sitting on the Coaches "Hot Seat"? How quick they are to forget! Is it because he won a Super Bowl? Well, in this NFL it's going to take more than just ONE Super Bowl. Cowher, while an excellent Head Coach, is by no means the Coaching legend that he's being made out to be all of a sudden.

In my opinion, there are far better options. Look no further than their current staff, it is impossible to overlook them.


While a lot of people like to point out that Snyder likes to make some kind of big splash to obtain top tier talent without worrying about the cost, they need to ask themselves when was the LAST time he did that? Can't they realize that Snyder has a new "adviser" in Joe Gibbs, and his modus operandi since Gibbs was the Team President was to refrain from big market splashes just like this one would be.

Forget it folks, it's NOT going to happen, and it's for the best.

IMO, the best man for this job is Greg Williams. As Dan Snyder himself pointed out today....if it aint broke, don't fix it.

JPFair wrote:Why are people so quick to say Cowher is the man for the job. First of all, he's already said he does NOT want to coach next season. Cowher served under the Rooney family in Pittsburgh for a number of years, and to expect him to come out of retirement to coach under Dan Snyder, after serving under Rooney, is a fate worse than death. It's NOT going to happen.

Second of all, why is Cowher the "best" option? Sure, he won a Super Bowl...but does anyone remember his losing seasons? Does anyone remember Cowher almost permanently sitting on the Coaches "Hot Seat"? How quick they are to forget! Is it because he won a Super Bowl? Well, in this NFL it's going to take more than just ONE Super Bowl. Cowher, while an excellent Head Coach, is by no means the Coaching legend that he's being made out to be all of a sudden.

In my opinion, there are far better options. Look no further than their current staff, it is impossible to overlook them.


While a lot of people like to point out that Snyder likes to make some kind of big splash to obtain top tier talent without worrying about the cost, they need to ask themselves when was the LAST time he did that? Can't they realize that Snyder has a new "adviser" in Joe Gibbs, and his modus operandi since Gibbs was the Team President was to refrain from big market splashes just like this one would be.

Forget it folks, it's NOT going to happen, and it's for the best.

IMO, the best man for this job is Greg Williams. As Dan Snyder himself pointed out today....if it aint broke, don't fix it.

I agree on all points, well said!

JPFair wrote:Why are people so quick to say Cowher is the man for the job. First of all, he's already said he does NOT want to coach next season. Cowher served under the Rooney family in Pittsburgh for a number of years, and to expect him to come out of retirement to coach under Dan Snyder, after serving under Rooney, is a fate worse than death. It's NOT going to happen.

Second of all, why is Cowher the "best" option? Sure, he won a Super Bowl...but does anyone remember his losing seasons? Does anyone remember Cowher almost permanently sitting on the Coaches "Hot Seat"? How quick they are to forget! Is it because he won a Super Bowl? Well, in this NFL it's going to take more than just ONE Super Bowl. Cowher, while an excellent Head Coach, is by no means the Coaching legend that he's being made out to be all of a sudden.

In my opinion, there are far better options. Look no further than their current staff, it is impossible to overlook them.


While a lot of people like to point out that Snyder likes to make some kind of big splash to obtain top tier talent without worrying about the cost, they need to ask themselves when was the LAST time he did that? Can't they realize that Snyder has a new "adviser" in Joe Gibbs, and his modus operandi since Gibbs was the Team President was to refrain from big market splashes just like this one would be.

Forget it folks, it's NOT going to happen, and it's for the best.

IMO, the best man for this job is Greg Williams. As Dan Snyder himself pointed out today....if it aint broke, don't fix it.

Rember hes days with the Bills?And also remember we hired our O coordinator in the 90s and we ended i[ horrible?.I mean just get Bill he wants to come he wants to come let it be.

I live in Raleigh (where Cowher lives) and on tonight's local news they asked Cowher if he's going to coach the Skins and he said that he will not be coaching next year, that he's too busy spending time with his family.

4olddc wrote:I live in Raleigh (where Cowher lives) and on tonight's local news they asked Cowher if he's going to coach the Skins and he said that he will not be coaching next year, that he's too busy spending time with his family.

That's what all the media outlets are saying on this side of the state as well. He's just the biggest name out there right now so the rumors will continue to fly.

Anyone who thinks our next coach is not Greg Williams doesn't know jack about the Redskins.

Early speculation in some league circles is that former (kind of) Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan could emerge as the leading candidate to replace Joe Gibbs in Washington.

Ryan, as we hear it, is tight with agent Gary Wichard, who's very tight with Redskins' personnel honcho Vinny Cerrato.

And while Cerrato has had his share of detractors over the years, there's a school of thought held by at least one leauge insider that Cerrato and owner Dan Snyder "have themselves fooled into believing they are heading in the right direction."

The fact that Snyder and Cerrato presumably want to retain influence makes understandable the report from Adam Schefter of NFL Network that former Steelers coach Bill Cowher isn't interested. Though money isn't an issue for Snyder (and we think he'd pay a guy like Cowher more than $10 million per year), Cowher wants to call the shots.

Seven years ago, Snyder tried that with Cowher's mentor, Marty Schottenheimer, who insisted on full control and fired Cerrato. It lasted all of one year.

As we heard it back in June, Cowher was privately making it known that he'd want to be in control of the football operations, and that he'd want to bring with him someone like Kevin Colbert or Omar Khan to help him run the show.

But, per Schefter, Cowher might never come back to coaching.

"Bill is enjoying the simple things, the simple pleasures in life," one of Cowher's friends told Schefter on Tuesday. "He's dabbling in life without football, and he is far from finished with that process."

Still, there's only so much golf a guy can play, and only so good he can get at the piano (especially when he's spitting all over the keys). Sooner or later, the fire will be raging again.

The only thing we know is that it won't be happening in 2008, even with the team that would likely pay him the most money now looking for a coach.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Folks, please post all your Gibbs replacement speculation here, thank you

If The Danny hires anyone from outside the org. without hiring a GM I am not going to renew my season tickets. It would demonstrate that the man has not learned a thing about how to run on organization.

let me start by saying (actually repeating what a lot of others have posted recently) that I do think Snyder has changed and that Gibbs has been really good for Snyder - then let me add - Snyder and Gibbs do not seem to want to change anything at the top - that is a very big concern to me and I think others.

We do need to hire a GM and get rid of Cerrato and his staff - We do need to change how things work in our FO and that means a new GM and the staff to replace Cerrato's bunch. We need better talent evaluators and someone to manage the team under Snyder and Gibbs.

por-tiz2skins wrote:

Early speculation in some league circles is that former (kind of) Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan could emerge as the leading candidate to replace Joe Gibbs in Washington.

Ryan, as we hear it, is tight with agent Gary Wichard, who's very tight with Redskins' personnel honcho Vinny Cerrato.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Sooooo, we are going to hire Ryan because Venny says so?

I hope not.

I hope they run through the whole process quickly before we have to chase down 1000 rumors.

The best man for the job is Russ Grimm.

I nominate anyone who isn't a successful college coach, ala Pete Carroll. Preferably Gregg Williams. If he won't take it, then Russ Grimm, who one would think would bring a little bit of Gibbs and a little bit of Cowher, and hopefully none of Nervous Norval.

This is precisely why I didn't want Gibbs to retire...again.

All the rumors, all the speculation, all the turmoil of "what are we gonna do?"

Cowher's not coming back...cross that off your list. The chances of Cowher coming back are only slightly better than Vince Lombardi rising from the grave to return us to glory. (Lord knows, if anybody could make Mr. Lombardi an offer, it's us)

My money's on Williams. I don't necessarily like it, but that's where the safe money is right now. Maybe Williams will work out with Saunders calling all the offensive plays. The only REAL difference would be that Saunders would call plays from within the red-zone. I believe that this is what Gibbs had wanted all along. You can't honestly tell me that Gibbs and Snyder hand-picked each of our players by themselves. They may have made strong arguements for some, but the supporting cast was most likely done by Saunders, Williams, Cerrato, and their respective staffers.

For all the trash talk about Cerrato, we seemed pretty deep this year. We played alright for a team missing something like 11-starters.

For all the trash talk about Snyder, you have to guess that anyone that can turn themselves into a billionare without striking oil, or winning the lottery, has to be smart enough to learn what works and what doesn't. I don't see him automatically reverting to his pre-Gibbs ways.

Gibbs made it pretty plain that he was not going to have any direct position with the team. His fear is that he doesn't want to be a distraction to whomever the next head coach will be. The gist of it that I got was that Snyder could seek his advice at anytime, more than that he and Snyder were going to working side-by-side.

If we see Russ Grimm, it will only be in the capacity to take over for Bugel (IMO). I'd feel pretty good about Russ bringing The Hogs back (never really liked the Dirtbags as a name for the O-line).

JansenFan wrote:I nominate anyone who isn't a successful college coach, ala Pete Carroll. Preferably Gregg Williams. If he won't take it, then Russ Grimm, who one would think would bring a little bit of Gibbs and a little bit of Cowher, and hopefully none of Nervous Norval.

Unlike the Ole Ball Coach though Caroll does have significant NFL experience. I am not saying I'm for him above everyone but I do think he's worth talking to. I do agree I would not go with a guy who's only realexperience is the college game though.

Bob 0119 wrote:This is precisely why I didn't want Gibbs to retire...again.

All the rumors, all the speculation, all the turmoil of "what are we gonna do?"

Cowher's not coming back...cross that off your list. The chances of Cowher coming back are only slightly better than Vince Lombardi rising from the grave to return us to glory. (Lord knows, if anybody could make Mr. Lombardi an offer, it's us)

My money's on Williams. I don't necessarily like it, but that's where the safe money is right now. Maybe Williams will work out with Saunders calling all the offensive plays. The only REAL difference would be that Saunders would call plays from within the red-zone. I believe that this is what Gibbs had wanted all along. You can't honestly tell me that Gibbs and Snyder hand-picked each of our players by themselves. They may have made strong arguements for some, but the supporting cast was most likely done by Saunders, Williams, Cerrato, and their respective staffers.

For all the trash talk about Cerrato, we seemed pretty deep this year. We played alright for a team missing something like 11-starters.

For all the trash talk about Snyder, you have to guess that anyone that can turn themselves into a billionare without striking oil, or winning the lottery, has to be smart enough to learn what works and what doesn't. I don't see him automatically reverting to his pre-Gibbs ways.

Gibbs made it pretty plain that he was not going to have any direct position with the team. His fear is that he doesn't want to be a distraction to whomever the next head coach will be. The gist of it that I got was that Snyder could seek his advice at anytime, more than that he and Snyder were going to working side-by-side.

If we see Russ Grimm, it will only be in the capacity to take over for Bugel (IMO). I'd feel pretty good about Russ bringing The Hogs back (never really liked the Dirtbags as a name for the O-line).

Well said and I agree, completely.