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SkinFan63 wrote:Dear "Hogs" fans/members,
I have found a new home I hope here at the hogs.net. Apparently, I have been banned for life from Extremeskins.com for......well. I'm not quite sure. Apparently, some of my replies to posts were too short and considered spam. "Like I care about boosting my thread count for a cooler avatar. OK......anyways, I am somewhat unoffically bitching about the way I was treated there. Just wondering if anyone here has experienced the same BS I did and for a very lame reason. I appreciate rules etc......I run several websites and messageboards myself so I'm aware of all of the BS that can go one. I'm 43 yrs old, don't bother anyone, love the Skins....been a fan for 33 years and get banned from the official messageboard for.......well.....they didn't bother telling me why.
I'm just guessing. I like this forum.....smaller, and more personel.....I hope.......Hail To The Skins!

SkinFan63 wrote:Dear "Hogs" fans/members,
I have found a new home I hope here at the hogs.net. Apparently, I have been banned for life from Extremeskins.com for......well. I'm not quite sure. Apparently, some of my replies to posts were too short and considered spam. "Like I care about boosting my thread count for a cooler avatar. OK......anyways, I am somewhat unoffically bitching about the way I was treated there. Just wondering if anyone here has experienced the same BS I did and for a very lame reason. I appreciate rules etc......I run several websites and messageboards myself so I'm aware of all of the BS that can go one. I'm 43 yrs old, don't bother anyone, love the Skins....been a fan for 33 years and get banned from the official messageboard for.......well.....they didn't bother telling me why.
I'm just guessing. I like this forum.....smaller, and more personel.....I hope.......Hail To The Skins!

1niksder wrote:You should have posted this in the Lounge.

I'll move it, and welcome back

por-tiz2skins wrote:

SkinFan63 wrote:Dear "Hogs" fans/members,
I have found a new home I hope here at the hogs.net. Apparently, I have been banned for life from Extremeskins.com for......well. I'm not quite sure. Apparently, some of my replies to posts were too short and considered spam. "Like I care about boosting my thread count for a cooler avatar. OK......anyways, I am somewhat unoffically bitching about the way I was treated there. Just wondering if anyone here has experienced the same BS I did and for a very lame reason. I appreciate rules etc......I run several websites and messageboards myself so I'm aware of all of the BS that can go one. I'm 43 yrs old, don't bother anyone, love the Skins....been a fan for 33 years and get banned from the official messageboard for.......well.....they didn't bother telling me why.
I'm just guessing. I like this forum.....smaller, and more personel.....I hope.......Hail To The Skins!

Its ok.

SkinFan63 wrote:Dear "Hogs" fans/members,
I have found a new home I hope here at the hogs.net. Apparently, I have been banned for life from Extremeskins.com for......well. I'm not quite sure. Apparently, some of my replies to posts were too short and considered spam. "Like I care about boosting my thread count for a cooler avatar. OK......anyways, I am somewhat unoffically bitching about the way I was treated there. Just wondering if anyone here has experienced the same BS I did and for a very lame reason. I appreciate rules etc......I run several websites and messageboards myself so I'm aware of all of the BS that can go one. I'm 43 yrs old, don't bother anyone, love the Skins....been a fan for 33 years and get banned from the official messageboard for.......well.....they didn't bother telling me why.
I'm just guessing. I like this forum.....smaller, and more personel.....I hope.......Hail To The Skins!

admin wrote:

SkinFan63 wrote:Dear "Hogs" fans/members,
I have found a new home I hope here at the hogs.net. Apparently, I have been banned for life from Extremeskins.com for......well. I'm not quite sure. Apparently, some of my replies to posts were too short and considered spam. "Like I care about boosting my thread count for a cooler avatar. OK......anyways, I am somewhat unoffically bitching about the way I was treated there. Just wondering if anyone here has experienced the same BS I did and for a very lame reason. I appreciate rules etc......I run several websites and messageboards myself so I'm aware of all of the BS that can go one. I'm 43 yrs old, don't bother anyone, love the Skins....been a fan for 33 years and get banned from the official messageboard for.......well.....they didn't bother telling me why.
I'm just guessing. I like this forum.....smaller, and more personel.....I hope.......Hail To The Skins!

So, I would like to know why you dragged me into your comment? Just from reading from your comment this guy is not the only guy that has been banned from this site and is not aware of why he was banned. There is nothing wrong with what I said as long as this guy didn't do anything wrong.

Sorry that you seem to have had an unjust experience at ES.

Rules are rules, but around here... if you break a rule, we let you know privately (unless you don't answer your private messages). We also generally give people more than one warning before we even think about anything more drastic (like a week long suspension or banishment).

Not to defend ES in any way, but it has to be an absolute nightmare running a board so freakin' huge. I spend 20-30 minutes EVERY day pruning spammer accounts etc.... it gets REALLY tiresome. I can't even imagine what their administrative duties are like.

I hope with it being the 'official' board, that one or two people are earning a pay check for their time and efforts, but I really don't know. I do think it's quite comical that they still try to assert that ES is an 'individual entity' from Redskins.com. I figure once the team BUYS the board, it's an 'official' board and not a 'fan site' any longer.

You're definitely not the first person to come here and say how unhappy you are about your treatment at ES. Part of the problem at ES appears to be a lack of methodology. Most of our complaints from 'cast-offs' is that they have no idea WHY they were banned, and sometimes it's even the first 'action' taken by the moderators. That seems unfair and it also seems to leave patrons of the board at the absolute mercy of the MOOD of a perticular moderator.

Personally, I'm always REALLY happy to gain new members that are older than a teenager and long-time fans - I look forward to your contributions - short sentences or long... so welcome SkinsFan63.

Oh and for jeremyroyce's comment about never banning a Redskin fan from a Redskin site - that's RIDICULOUS. The rules are the same for EVERYBODY - at least they should be in my opinion. EVERYONE has the right to post here unless they abuse their privileges in doing so. If you don't respect the house and it's rules, who you cheer for is of no consequence to me, we have to maintain order by being consistent in our application of the rules. IMO, that's the only way to be fair. We do try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and recognize that sometimes emotions take over - but that's why as moderators we generally warn - warn - sanction - suspend - ban. If you reach the end of that chain, you've EARNED the right not to post here anymore - Redskin fan or not.

jeremyroyce wrote:

admin wrote:

SkinFan63 wrote:Dear "Hogs" fans/members,
I have found a new home I hope here at the hogs.net. Apparently, I have been banned for life from Extremeskins.com for......well. I'm not quite sure. Apparently, some of my replies to posts were too short and considered spam. "Like I care about boosting my thread count for a cooler avatar. OK......anyways, I am somewhat unoffically bitching about the way I was treated there. Just wondering if anyone here has experienced the same BS I did and for a very lame reason. I appreciate rules etc......I run several websites and messageboards myself so I'm aware of all of the BS that can go one. I'm 43 yrs old, don't bother anyone, love the Skins....been a fan for 33 years and get banned from the official messageboard for.......well.....they didn't bother telling me why.
I'm just guessing. I like this forum.....smaller, and more personel.....I hope.......Hail To The Skins!

So, I would like to know why you dragged me into your comment? Just from reading from your comment this guy is not the only guy that has been banned from this site and is not aware of why he was banned. There is nothing wrong with what I said as long as this guy didn't do anything wrong.

Sorry that you seem to have had an unjust experience at ES.

Rules are rules, but around here... if you break a rule, we let you know privately (unless you don't answer your private messages). We also generally give people more than one warning before we even think about anything more drastic (like a week long suspension or banishment).

Not to defend ES in any way, but it has to be an absolute nightmare running a board so freakin' huge. I spend 20-30 minutes EVERY day pruning spammer accounts etc.... it gets REALLY tiresome. I can't even imagine what their administrative duties are like.

I hope with it being the 'official' board, that one or two people are earning a pay check for their time and efforts, but I really don't know. I do think it's quite comical that they still try to assert that ES is an 'individual entity' from Redskins.com. I figure once the team BUYS the board, it's an 'official' board and not a 'fan site' any longer.

You're definitely not the first person to come here and say how unhappy you are about your treatment at ES. Part of the problem at ES appears to be a lack of methodology. Most of our complaints from 'cast-offs' is that they have no idea WHY they were banned, and sometimes it's even the first 'action' taken by the moderators. That seems unfair and it also seems to leave patrons of the board at the absolute mercy of the MOOD of a perticular moderator.

Personally, I'm always REALLY happy to gain new members that are older than a teenager and long-time fans - I look forward to your contributions - short sentences or long... so welcome SkinsFan63.

Oh and for jeremyroyce's comment about never banning a Redskin fan from a Redskin site - that's RIDICULOUS. The rules are the same for EVERYBODY - at least they should be in my opinion. EVERYONE has the right to post here unless they abuse their privileges in doing so. If you don't respect the house and it's rules, who you cheer for is of no consequence to me, we have to maintain order by being consistent in our application of the rules. IMO, that's the only way to be fair. We do try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and recognize that sometimes emotions take over - but that's why as moderators we generally warn - warn - sanction - suspend - ban. If you reach the end of that chain, you've EARNED the right not to post here anymore - Redskin fan or not.

I would like to ask you why you dragged me into your comment and said that what I said was RIDICULOUS? From what he was saying was that he didn't know what he did and he was banned unfairly. That being said him being a Redskins fan and being on a Redskins fans site I couldn't understand why he would be banned. But in your comment it shows that he is not the only person to be banned from that site that is now aware of why they are banned. So, why did you even mention my name?

admin wrote:Oh and for jeremyroyce's comment about never banning a Redskin fan from a Redskin site - that's RIDICULOUS. The rules are the same for EVERYBODY - at least they should be in my opinion. EVERYONE has the right to post here unless they abuse their privileges in doing so. If you don't respect the house and it's rules, who you cheer for is of no consequence to me, we have to maintain order by being consistent in our application of the rules. IMO, that's the only way to be fair. We do try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and recognize that sometimes emotions take over - but that's why as moderators we generally warn - warn - sanction - suspend - ban. If you reach the end of that chain, you've EARNED the right not to post here anymore - Redskin fan or not.

GSPODS wrote:

jeremyroyce wrote:

admin wrote:

SkinFan63 wrote:Dear "Hogs" fans/members,
I have found a new home I hope here at the hogs.net. Apparently, I have been banned for life from Extremeskins.com for......well. I'm not quite sure. Apparently, some of my replies to posts were too short and considered spam. "Like I care about boosting my thread count for a cooler avatar. OK......anyways, I am somewhat unoffically bitching about the way I was treated there. Just wondering if anyone here has experienced the same BS I did and for a very lame reason. I appreciate rules etc......I run several websites and messageboards myself so I'm aware of all of the BS that can go one. I'm 43 yrs old, don't bother anyone, love the Skins....been a fan for 33 years and get banned from the official messageboard for.......well.....they didn't bother telling me why.
I'm just guessing. I like this forum.....smaller, and more personel.....I hope.......Hail To The Skins!

So, I would like to know why you dragged me into your comment? Just from reading from your comment this guy is not the only guy that has been banned from this site and is not aware of why he was banned. There is nothing wrong with what I said as long as this guy didn't do anything wrong.

Sorry that you seem to have had an unjust experience at ES.

Rules are rules, but around here... if you break a rule, we let you know privately (unless you don't answer your private messages). We also generally give people more than one warning before we even think about anything more drastic (like a week long suspension or banishment).

Not to defend ES in any way, but it has to be an absolute nightmare running a board so freakin' huge. I spend 20-30 minutes EVERY day pruning spammer accounts etc.... it gets REALLY tiresome. I can't even imagine what their administrative duties are like.

I hope with it being the 'official' board, that one or two people are earning a pay check for their time and efforts, but I really don't know. I do think it's quite comical that they still try to assert that ES is an 'individual entity' from Redskins.com. I figure once the team BUYS the board, it's an 'official' board and not a 'fan site' any longer.

You're definitely not the first person to come here and say how unhappy you are about your treatment at ES. Part of the problem at ES appears to be a lack of methodology. Most of our complaints from 'cast-offs' is that they have no idea WHY they were banned, and sometimes it's even the first 'action' taken by the moderators. That seems unfair and it also seems to leave patrons of the board at the absolute mercy of the MOOD of a perticular moderator.

Personally, I'm always REALLY happy to gain new members that are older than a teenager and long-time fans - I look forward to your contributions - short sentences or long... so welcome SkinsFan63.

Oh and for jeremyroyce's comment about never banning a Redskin fan from a Redskin site - that's RIDICULOUS. The rules are the same for EVERYBODY - at least they should be in my opinion. EVERYONE has the right to post here unless they abuse their privileges in doing so. If you don't respect the house and it's rules, who you cheer for is of no consequence to me, we have to maintain order by being consistent in our application of the rules. IMO, that's the only way to be fair. We do try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and recognize that sometimes emotions take over - but that's why as moderators we generally warn - warn - sanction - suspend - ban. If you reach the end of that chain, you've EARNED the right not to post here anymore - Redskin fan or not.

I would like to ask you why you dragged me into your comment and said that what I said was RIDICULOUS? From what he was saying was that he didn't know what he did and he was banned unfairly. That being said him being a Redskins fan and being on a Redskins fans site I couldn't understand why he would be banned. But in your comment it shows that he is not the only person to be banned from that site that is now aware of why they are banned. So, why did you even mention my name?

Would it help if it was in huge print and bold letters?

admin wrote:Oh and for jeremyroyce's comment about never banning a Redskin fan from a Redskin site - that's RIDICULOUS. The rules are the same for EVERYBODY - at least they should be in my opinion. EVERYONE has the right to post here unless they abuse their privileges in doing so. If you don't respect the house and it's rules, who you cheer for is of no consequence to me, we have to maintain order by being consistent in our application of the rules. IMO, that's the only way to be fair. We do try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and recognize that sometimes emotions take over - but that's why as moderators we generally warn - warn - sanction - suspend - ban. If you reach the end of that chain, you've EARNED the right not to post here anymore - Redskin fan or not.

This could not have been spelled out more coherently.

jeremyroyce wrote:I would like to ask you why you dragged me into your comment and said that what I said was RIDICULOUS? From what he was saying was that he didn't know what he did and he was banned unfairly. That being said him being a Redskins fan and being on a Redskins fans site I couldn't understand why he would be banned. But in your comment it shows that he is not the only person to be banned from that site that is now aware of why they are banned. So, why did you even mention my name?

I don't know why a Redskins fan site would ban a Redskins fan. Anyways Glad to have you on board.

jeremyroyce wrote:I would like to ask you why you dragged me into your comment and said that what I said was RIDICULOUS? From what he was saying was that he didn't know what he did and he was banned unfairly. That being said him being a Redskins fan and being on a Redskins fans site I couldn't understand why he would be banned. But in your comment it shows that he is not the only person to be banned from that site that is now aware of why they are banned. So, why did you even mention my name?

I don't know why a Redskins fan site would ban a Redskins fan

BossHog wrote:I wasn't trying to ruffle your feathers.

jeremyroyce wrote:I would like to ask you why you dragged me into your comment and said that what I said was RIDICULOUS? From what he was saying was that he didn't know what he did and he was banned unfairly. That being said him being a Redskins fan and being on a Redskins fans site I couldn't understand why he would be banned. But in your comment it shows that he is not the only person to be banned from that site that is now aware of why they are banned. So, why did you even mention my name?

I mentioned you because you were the one who posted:

I don't know why a Redskins fan site would ban a Redskins fan

I took that to mean that there was no possible justifiable reason for banning any Redskin fan from any Redskin fan site. That's ridiculous.

Rules are rules, and as the administrator of this site, I try to make sure that those rules are enforced the same for everybody. Being a Redskin fan doesn't preclude you from following those rules. That's really all I was saying.

Chillax.

Bob 0119 wrote:I think we shouldd all pick a cheek and pucker up for them for not charging us to join this site.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Bob 0119 wrote:I think we shouldd all pick a cheek and pucker up for them for not charging us to join this site.

I'll pass, Redskin1 can have mine.

Actually...well....poor Fios....

JPFair wrote:It's a bummer that you got banned from ES.

I don't understand, though. Even though ES is not a board that I ever go to...I think I've been on it once a couple years ago, but I find it really difficult to believe that a website, any website, would arbitrarily ban an upstanding member without cause, whether they give a reason or not.

I think members of THN take it for granted that this website is unique in its format, administration, diversity, etc... The ability to post opposing viewpoints, a smack forum, and other diverse modules that are seperate and apart from "Redskins" fans topics is what makes this site such high quality, and perhaps something that we collectively take for granted.

That being said, I'm sure ES is a website that appreciates freedom of opinion and opposing viewpoints, but to simply ban someone for no reason? Perhaps you could shed some light on it, and it might explain the "why" you got banned? What kind of conversations, posts, im's, messages, etc... did you participate in immediately prior to being banned? Did you violate any rules, written or unwritten, that might upset the mods? Was there a politically charged debate that you participated in? Sometimes we dont' appreciate just how good THN is in allowing such emotional topics to be discussed in a forum of appreciation for opposing viewpoints and the allowing of such politically charged debates in the proper forum, of course.

But, what was the one of your last few posts? Did you get angry in a forum that doesn't allow such expressed anger, or perhaps the terminology you used to express such anger?

I'm perplexed, as much as I dislike ES, I just don't see them arbitrarily banning someone for no reason whatsoever. I can't see them saying to themselves "hmmm, I think I'll ban this person". So, without defending them, I'm sure there must have been SOME reason why they banned you.

In any event, perhaps it was a blessing in disguise, you've come to the right place!!