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Lotta names we know in this thing. Haven't read it fully, but it's stuffed with info.

Impact on the Bonds trial and/or baseball's pretty obvious intention to punish Bonds in the press, courtroom, or record book?

What is your take?

It will look pretty bad if Bonds is punished and the others walk. The hypocracy of that will sicken most people, I think. I know it will me, and I could care less about Bonds, or baseball, for that matter.

crazyhorse1 wrote:Impact on the Bonds trial and/or baseball's pretty obvious intention to punish Bonds in the press, courtroom, or record book?

What is your take?

It will look pretty bad if Bonds is punished and the others walk. The hypocracy of that will sicken most people, I think. I know it will me, and I could care less about Bonds, or baseball, for that matter.

Bonds' problem is he's on trial for lying about it and the report can definitely be used to support the case against him.

As far as other cheaters go, I don't know that they'll suffer the wrath of anything more than public opinion and the opinion/respect of their peers. I'm still skeptical about the whole thing, man. The guy (Selig) hired a president of the best team in the sport to investigate the sport. I didn't figure to see much more than he gave us: a couple of bones and mostly players who are either irrelevant or retired. I'd bet that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Selig will treat this like the final word on the steroids issue, will not search any deeper, and will call us all to "look forward" from here.

Today's report doesn't make the whole issue any less of a joke, in my opinion.

BeeGee wrote:

crazyhorse1 wrote:Impact on the Bonds trial and/or baseball's pretty obvious intention to punish Bonds in the press, courtroom, or record book?

What is your take?

It will look pretty bad if Bonds is punished and the others walk. The hypocracy of that will sicken most people, I think. I know it will me, and I could care less about Bonds, or baseball, for that matter.

Bonds' problem is he's on trial for lying about it and the report can definitely be used to support the case against him.

As far as other cheaters go, I don't know that they'll suffer the wrath of anything more than public opinion and the opinion/respect of their peers. I'm still skeptical about the whole thing, man. The guy (Selig) hired a president of the best team in the sport to investigate the sport. I didn't figure to see much more than he gave us: a couple of bones and mostly players who are either irrelevant or retired. I'd bet that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Selig will treat this like the final word on the steroids issue, will not search any deeper, and will call us all to "look forward" from here.

Today's report doesn't make the whole issue any less of a joke, in my opinion.

Most people lie to avoid being nailed for crimes without being charged with perjury. Bonds is not a major political figure accused of treason, nor was his crime significant unless you happen to believe setting a record in baseball is significant. His trial for perjury in this particular case would be an example of exceptionalism, especially so since others lied to Congress in the same matter without being prosecuted. Clements is probably already lying to everyone in earshot, as are others. Trying Bonds for perjury could easy end up causing perjury trials for dozens of players, then plea bargains, then more trials and more perjuries, etc.

Won't happen. I've got a dollar in my pocket that says Bonds won't end up in a courtroom.

crazyhorse1 wrote:

BeeGee wrote:

crazyhorse1 wrote:Impact on the Bonds trial and/or baseball's pretty obvious intention to punish Bonds in the press, courtroom, or record book?

What is your take?

It will look pretty bad if Bonds is punished and the others walk. The hypocracy of that will sicken most people, I think. I know it will me, and I could care less about Bonds, or baseball, for that matter.

Bonds' problem is he's on trial for lying about it and the report can definitely be used to support the case against him.

As far as other cheaters go, I don't know that they'll suffer the wrath of anything more than public opinion and the opinion/respect of their peers. I'm still skeptical about the whole thing, man. The guy (Selig) hired a president of the best team in the sport to investigate the sport. I didn't figure to see much more than he gave us: a couple of bones and mostly players who are either irrelevant or retired. I'd bet that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Selig will treat this like the final word on the steroids issue, will not search any deeper, and will call us all to "look forward" from here.

Today's report doesn't make the whole issue any less of a joke, in my opinion.

Most people lie to avoid being nailed for crimes without being charged with perjury. Bonds is not a major political figure accused of treason, nor was his crime significant unless you happen to believe setting a record in baseball is significant. His trial for perjury in this particular case would be an example of exceptionalism, especially so since others lied to Congress in the same matter without being prosecuted. Clements is probably already lying to everyone in earshot, as are others. Trying Bonds for perjury could easy end up causing perjury trials for dozens of players, then plea bargains, then more trials and more perjuries, etc.

Won't happen. I've got a dollar in my pocket that says Bonds won't end up in a courtroom.

If he wasn't indicted federally, I might agree with you, but I definitely think he's going to trial. I understand your perspective, as it pertains to the possible snowball a Bonds case could set in motion but... I think Selig feels that if his steroids posterboy is convicted, it will actually satisfy the headhunters to the point that the MLB can bring a quick end to the steroids chaos.