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Has Jason Campbell and the Redskins Offense been finally given permission to run Al Saunders' offense????

I listened to JC in the Comcast Post Game and he said he was able to "audible" on the Moss one-handed grab??? He also said that guys are getting real comfortable with the "no huddle" and "wide-open" offense???

A loss is a loss but I have to say that I was impressed with JC and the passing game today. Yes, they did have to play catch up and throw the ball but I liked what I saw although there were a few plays that JC missed on and of course the INT at the end.

I think that this group of guys, in listening to some of their post-game comments, would prefer this wide-open attack and the no-huddle. Of course some will say it don't matter to them, like Santana.

Before I ask you for your thoughts, here's one of mind:

Would this offense be much more effective if they went no-huddle more and attacked teams even if they are up??? Also, could Portis be more effective if the run game is shut down and we ran him out of the no-huddle kind of like how NE runs their backs??? The reason for my second question is because Dallas is pretty good against the run and I am sure that with the last six games left, other teams we face including Dallas again, may stuff our run. And lastly.... If this is Al's offense that was played today, will Gibbs stay out of the way and let it roll because at this point now with six left and the defense giving up points like they did today, we will have to put our foot on the gas and outgun teams down the stretch...

Now, "your thoughts."....

yeah, Gibbs figures: hey I called 10 games.

Let Al call the remaining 6 games.

I like JC a lot and think he had a good game...except that INT with time running out. That was a bonehead play on his part. He could have kept the ball and ran for close to the 1st down. Why he threw that thing, I'll never know.

My opinion: Saunders calls the plays, but Gibbs and Saunders work out the repertoire from which Saunders calls.

No-huddle for the full game? It didn't work for the Bills, because Petitbon, who get very little credit, drilled the defense until the could make all the substitutions they needed during the time Jim Kelley was calling his plays.

Yes run it more, but don;t go to it for most of the game.

As to who calls the plays and trains the offense, Saunders was brought in to do that, so Gibbs could retire with a strong OC and DC.

Dick Vermeil, who knows both Gibbs and Saunders, says the Saunders offense is the Gibbs offense with more variations. That's good when the players get some of the variations.

Meanwhie, I'd like a clone of Art Monk when he was about 25.

Justice Hog wrote:I like JC a lot and think he had a good game...except that INT with time running out. That was a bonehead play on his part. He could have kept the ball and ran for close to the 1st down. Why he threw that thing, I'll never know.

The scarmble would of never helped cause D-marcus was right there to stop JC for the 2 yard gain.Yes I agree maybe the 4th down would of probably gotten us a first down or even TD but you never know we can never make game winning drives in the last seconds.But I belive will practice alot more on does situations.

Welch,

Good points but I am not saying go "no-huddle" for the entire game. But rather, pick the spots to go "no-huddle" and keep the defense off-balance.

Maybe I need to see tapes of both offenses to see where the variations are cause I don't see it.

"Every week we get to do more and more of the stuff we want to do as an offense," Moss said, referring to the team's increasing use of passing formations featuring three and four receivers. "That's what Jason likes, that's what we like. . . . I think we're moving in the right direction. It's hard to say that when you don't have no wins, that you're moving in the right direction. But I feel like as a team together as a whole, dealing with the stuff that we have dealt with this year, we're moving in the right direction."

Quote from Santana Moss following the game.....


I wonder what Gibbs thinks of this comment??? If "they" like doing this then why not go to that??? Clinton can still get his if teams are not gearing for the spread formations and multi-receiver sets with quick hand offs and draw plays.....

Your thoughts on the comments by Moss????

I told my roommate yesterday, about halfway through the third quarter, "wow, Gibbs has really let Saunders run the show today." One of my central complaints about Gibbs' approach has been that we've spent several weeks going Saunders-lite. I'm not by any means suggesting that what we saw yesterday (and, really, the past two weeks save for some frustrating relapses) is an unequivocal success but I think it gives the team a MUCH better chance to win. I'll even say this much, if the Redskins run Saunders' offense, full-throttle, I believe they can make the playoffs. If they try some hybrid or go back into a shell, they won't reach nine wins.

roybus14 wrote:"Every week we get to do more and more of the stuff we want to do as an offense," Moss said, referring to the team's increasing use of passing formations featuring three and four receivers. "That's what Jason likes, that's what we like. . . . I think we're moving in the right direction. It's hard to say that when you don't have no wins, that you're moving in the right direction. But I feel like as a team together as a whole, dealing with the stuff that we have dealt with this year, we're moving in the right direction."

Quote from Santana Moss following the game.....


I wonder what Gibbs thinks of this comment??? If "they" like doing this then why not go to that??? Clinton can still get his if teams are not gearing for the spread formations and multi-receiver sets with quick hand offs and draw plays.....

Your thoughts on the comments by Moss????

My only comment is, why'd it take so long? We're seeing in Game 10 the sort of progress we should've seen by Game 4. Isn't there a training camp and preseason to work on this stuff?

The sad thing is, I felt better about yesterday's loss than I did about some of our wins.

Our team really had (has) it's back to the wall. They came out and really played pretty well for the most part. There were some mistakes, but there were more well run plays than miscues.

I don't think Dallas expected us to pass, being that we're a "run-first" offense and all.

Campbell completed more passes than Romo threw.
Our defense did not play as good as our offense, but overall played pretty good.

This is the one game where I think you could confidently say that it was the injuries that were key. If Taylor is playing, T.O. is not wide open over the middle for one of his touchdowns, and he doesn't make it all the way down the sideline for his last touchdown.

We had very few penalties, but that pass interference penalty was a killer, and that's just what you'd expect from a guy who really hasn't played all year, and felt he got beat. If I recall correctly, that was a third down play on a drive that lead to a score.

Even though we lost that game, we saw that we can beat Dallas. If this is the team that shows up for the rest of the season, then I don't think we're 11 point underdogs to anyone else on our schedule. We can still go on a run and finish 11-5, if our team plays the rest of their games like they did this one.

Is there such a thing as a confidence-building loss? If there is, this was it. We were in it to the last minute with a team that was supposed to beat us by more than 11-points.

Our team played a great game, they just came up a little short this time.

How did the Redskins show that they can beat Dallas? They didn't.

I am still not that thrilled with Campbell although everyone else seems to be. He did have a good day for the most part. He threw another interception, he fumbled again and he overthrew a wide open receiver(s), again.

aswas71788 wrote:How did the Redskins show that they can beat Dallas? They didn't.

I am still not that thrilled with Campbell although everyone else seems to be. He did have a good day for the most part. He threw another interception, he fumbled again and he overthrew a wide open receiver(s), again.

When you are determined to be negative, it ain't that hard to find negativity.

aswas71788 wrote:How did the Redskins show that they can beat Dallas? They didn't.

I am still not that thrilled with Campbell although everyone else seems to be. He did have a good day for the most part. He threw another interception, he fumbled again and he overthrew a wide open receiver(s), again.

Dude, are you serious? Did you REALLY watch that game? To say you aren't that thrilled with JC? I mean, did you see how every game he only gets better? What he did yesterday is EXACTLY what we all needed him to do. He made better decisions with the ball and made some great passes. Of course there were times when the receivers themselves made the fancy catches; sure he's working on his accuracy and the boneheaded INT was really a bonehead INT. Dude, how can you blame that fumble on JC? You can put ANY QB in that situation and it would have resulted in a fumble. Now if you had mentioned the Pats game where he fumbled, then I would understand but certainly not the cowpunk game.

Mursilis wrote:

roybus14 wrote:"Every week we get to do more and more of the stuff we want to do as an offense," Moss said, referring to the team's increasing use of passing formations featuring three and four receivers. "That's what Jason likes, that's what we like. . . . I think we're moving in the right direction. It's hard to say that when you don't have no wins, that you're moving in the right direction. But I feel like as a team together as a whole, dealing with the stuff that we have dealt with this year, we're moving in the right direction."

Quote from Santana Moss following the game.....


I wonder what Gibbs thinks of this comment??? If "they" like doing this then why not go to that??? Clinton can still get his if teams are not gearing for the spread formations and multi-receiver sets with quick hand offs and draw plays.....

Your thoughts on the comments by Moss????

My only comment is, why'd it take so long? We're seeing in Game 10 the sort of progress we should've seen by Game 4. Isn't there a training camp and preseason to work on this stuff?

Amen!!!

roybus14 wrote:

Mursilis wrote:

roybus14 wrote:"Every week we get to do more and more of the stuff we want to do as an offense," Moss said, referring to the team's increasing use of passing formations featuring three and four receivers. "That's what Jason likes, that's what we like. . . . I think we're moving in the right direction. It's hard to say that when you don't have no wins, that you're moving in the right direction. But I feel like as a team together as a whole, dealing with the stuff that we have dealt with this year, we're moving in the right direction."

Quote from Santana Moss following the game.....


I wonder what Gibbs thinks of this comment??? If "they" like doing this then why not go to that??? Clinton can still get his if teams are not gearing for the spread formations and multi-receiver sets with quick hand offs and draw plays.....

Your thoughts on the comments by Moss????

My only comment is, why'd it take so long? We're seeing in Game 10 the sort of progress we should've seen by Game 4. Isn't there a training camp and preseason to work on this stuff?

Amen!!!

They would have annihilated Philly with that offense

Fios wrote:

aswas71788 wrote:How did the Redskins show that they can beat Dallas? They didn't.

I am still not that thrilled with Campbell although everyone else seems to be. He did have a good day for the most part. He threw another interception, he fumbled again and he overthrew a wide open receiver(s), again.

When you are determined to be negative, it ain't that hard to find negativity.

No kidding...

I hate to say it guys but, my only regret is that we didnt start JC earlier in his career.

I am loving what I am seeing out or JC now though.

To me he is going through the same growing pains that TOni Homo went through last year.

It was very nice to see his game come along though. More JC more !!

All though we lost. I still loved what the offense brought to the table. To think if ST were not hurt?

No way would T.O. have had a career day with ST back there.

Redskins better lock this guy up.....we are 5-5 but he is not gettin the help that he needs.....we finally got our franchise QB. Redskins better dont screw this up.

funsho2 wrote:Redskins better lock this guy up.....we are 5-5 but he is not gettin the help that he needs.....we finally got our franchise QB. Redskins better dont screw this up.

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The sky is the limit.... I think we can have a strong finish if THIS Redskins team shows up every week. If the other shows up, then it's gonna be a long final stretch.

Bob 0119 wrote:The sad thing is, I felt better about yesterday's loss than I did about some of our wins.

Amen.

I don't have enough faith in Gibbs to believe he'll recognize that this works. I believe we went balls out against Detroit and he pushed them back into his body the following week.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Bob 0119 wrote:The sad thing is, I felt better about yesterday's loss than I did about some of our wins.

Amen.

I don't have enough faith in Gibbs to believe he'll recognize that this works. I believe we went balls out against Detroit and he pushed them back into his body the following week.

That's the question of the week. Why do we have two different teams?(so to speak) That drives me crazy. We have to go all out, each and every game. Not every other game. Whats up with that?

langleyparkjoe wrote:

aswas71788 wrote:How did the Redskins show that they can beat Dallas? They didn't.

I am still not that thrilled with Campbell although everyone else seems to be. He did have a good day for the most part. He threw another interception, he fumbled again and he overthrew a wide open receiver(s), again.

Dude, are you serious? Did you REALLY watch that game? To say you aren't that thrilled with JC? I mean, did you see how every game he only gets better? What he did yesterday is EXACTLY what we all needed him to do. He made better decisions with the ball and made some great passes. Of course there were times when the receivers themselves made the fancy catches; sure he's working on his accuracy and the boneheaded INT was really a bonehead INT. Dude, how can you blame that fumble on JC? You can put ANY QB in that situation and it would have resulted in a fumble. Now if you had mentioned the Pats game where he fumbled, then I would understand but certainly not the cowpunk game.

Hey dude......did the Redskins win?? If they did then I did not see the same game you did, otherwise I think we all saw the same game.

I was really disappointed with the terrible playcalling by Gibbs. He should have called a draw play on that 3rd at 10 at the end. It would have gone for ten at least and, more importantly, would have avoided the interception. (Just kidding.)

wbbradb wrote:I was really disappointed with the terrible playcalling by Gibbs. He should have called a draw play on that 3rd at 10 at the end. It would have gone for ten at least and, more importantly, would have avoided the interception. (Just kidding.)

Well done, that was funny!