The-Hogs.net - Washington Football Discussion, Redskins to Commanders Era

Sorry if I sound mean or something but...he kind of brought it upon himself...I mean you got to control Diabetes or it will wreck you in the end...

skinsrule84 wrote:Sorry if I sound mean or something but...he kind of brought it upon himself...I mean you got to control Diabetes or it will wreck you in the end...

Not all types of diabetes are controllable with diet, insulin and dialysis.

Yes I know, my father is a diabetic, he has been for 32 years. He has his sugar under control and has lived a life free of complications..It can be done. You just have to have discipline, follow a healthy diet, and most importantly, be active.

skinsrule84 wrote:Yes I know, my father is a diabetic, he has been for 32 years. He has his sugar under control and has lived a life free of complications..It can be done. You just have to have discipline, follow a healthy diet, and most importantly, be active.

Would it be safe to assume your father has Type 2 diabetes? The same type Joe Gibbs has?

Well...yes.

Not much difference though, they can both be managed.

skinsrule84 wrote:Well...yes.

Not much difference though, they can both be managed.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass but Type 1 diabetes, the type which requires mandatory dialysis, does not prevent renal failure for some patients. Kidney transplants are often required for these patients. In case you are wondering why I would be aware of any of this, my mother worked in nephrology and urology for 20 years. Most cases are manageable but not all cases are manageable. I don't know the specifics of Ron Springs history with the disease but if he required a kidney transplant it is possible he could not manage the diease with diet, insulin, or dialysis. And I have to believe that Sean would not allow money to be an issue.

GSPODS wrote:

skinsrule84 wrote:Well...yes.

Not much difference though, they can both be managed.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass but Type 1 diabetes, the type which requires mandatory dialysis, does not prevent renal failure for some patients. Kidney transplants are often required for these patients. In case you are wondering why I would be aware of any of this, my mother worked in nephrology and urology for 20 years. Most cases are manageable but not all cases are manageable. I don't know the specifics of Ron Springs history with the disease but if he required a kidney transplant it is possible he could not manage the diease with diet, insulin, or dialysis. And I have to believe that Sean would not allow money to be an issue.

You're drunk. Type I can be controlled by properly infusing the patient with insulin. SOME people with Type I need an infusion pump, but not all do. Most people are ok with subcutaneous injections of insulin.

But don't take my word for it, read all about it from the Mayo Clinic.

PulpExposure wrote:

GSPODS wrote:

skinsrule84 wrote:Well...yes.

Not much difference though, they can both be managed.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass but Type 1 diabetes, the type which requires mandatory dialysis, does not prevent renal failure for some patients. Kidney transplants are often required for these patients. In case you are wondering why I would be aware of any of this, my mother worked in nephrology and urology for 20 years. Most cases are manageable but not all cases are manageable. I don't know the specifics of Ron Springs history with the disease but if he required a kidney transplant it is possible he could not manage the diease with diet, insulin, or dialysis. And I have to believe that Sean would not allow money to be an issue.

You're drunk. Type I can be controlled by properly infusing the patient with insulin. SOME people with Type I need an infusion pump, but not all do. Most people are ok with subcutaneous injections of insulin.

But don't take my word for it, read all about it from the Mayo Clinic.

From the same website:

Diabetic ketoacidosis is a serious complication of diabetes mellitus. In this condition, insufficient insulin levels in the body result in high blood sugar (glucose) and the buildup of substances called ketones in the blood (ketoacidosis). Left untreated, diabetic ketoacidosis leads to coma and eventual death.

Diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) is usually triggered by a stressful event, such as an illness or another health problem. The condition may also arise as a result of insufficient insulin therapy. Diabetic ketoacidosis is most common in people with type 1 diabetes, but may also occur in those with type 2 diabetes. Occasionally, diabetic ketoacidosis is the first indication that a person has diabetes.

GSPODS wrote:

PulpExposure wrote:

GSPODS wrote:

skinsrule84 wrote:Well...yes.

Not much difference though, they can both be managed.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass but Type 1 diabetes, the type which requires mandatory dialysis, does not prevent renal failure for some patients. Kidney transplants are often required for these patients. In case you are wondering why I would be aware of any of this, my mother worked in nephrology and urology for 20 years. Most cases are manageable but not all cases are manageable. I don't know the specifics of Ron Springs history with the disease but if he required a kidney transplant it is possible he could not manage the diease with diet, insulin, or dialysis. And I have to believe that Sean would not allow money to be an issue.

You're drunk. Type I can be controlled by properly infusing the patient with insulin. SOME people with Type I need an infusion pump, but not all do. Most people are ok with subcutaneous injections of insulin.

But don't take my word for it, read all about it from the Mayo Clinic.

From the same website:

Diabetic ketoacidosis is a serious complication of diabetes mellitus. In this condition, insufficient insulin levels in the body result in high blood sugar (glucose) and the buildup of substances called ketones in the blood (ketoacidosis). Left untreated, diabetic ketoacidosis leads to coma and eventual death.

Diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) is usually triggered by a stressful event, such as an illness or another health problem. The condition may also arise as a result of insufficient insulin therapy. Diabetic ketoacidosis is most common in people with type 1 diabetes, but may also occur in those with type 2 diabetes. Occasionally, diabetic ketoacidosis is the first indication that a person has diabetes.

?

All I was doing is referring to this statement you made:

I'm not trying to be a smart ass but Type 1 diabetes, the type which requires mandatory dialysis

Your statement says that Type 1 Diabetes requires mandatory dialysis.

It does not.

Insulin dependent Diabetes, often referred to as Type 1, or "Juvenile" Diabetes, can be a horrific problem to manage. EVERYON EIS DIFFERENT. Some find it relatively easy to manage blood sugar levels, even if they cheat from time to time... others are constantly fighting to balance their intake against insulin use, and never seem to manage, despite excellent medical support and a rigid adherance to their protocols. A cold sends their blood sugar through the roof, or they find themselves unable to finish their lunch, and suddenly, they find their blood sugar plummeting, and fight to remain conscious long enough to get help.

Management of Type 1 Diabetes is not just a matter of doing it. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.

PulpExposure wrote:

GSPODS wrote:

PulpExposure wrote:

GSPODS wrote:

skinsrule84 wrote:Well...yes.

Not much difference though, they can both be managed.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass but Type 1 diabetes, the type which requires mandatory dialysis, does not prevent renal failure for some patients. Kidney transplants are often required for these patients. In case you are wondering why I would be aware of any of this, my mother worked in nephrology and urology for 20 years. Most cases are manageable but not all cases are manageable. I don't know the specifics of Ron Springs history with the disease but if he required a kidney transplant it is possible he could not manage the diease with diet, insulin, or dialysis. And I have to believe that Sean would not allow money to be an issue.

You're drunk. Type I can be controlled by properly infusing the patient with insulin. SOME people with Type I need an infusion pump, but not all do. Most people are ok with subcutaneous injections of insulin.

But don't take my word for it, read all about it from the Mayo Clinic.

From the same website:

Diabetic ketoacidosis is a serious complication of diabetes mellitus. In this condition, insufficient insulin levels in the body result in high blood sugar (glucose) and the buildup of substances called ketones in the blood (ketoacidosis). Left untreated, diabetic ketoacidosis leads to coma and eventual death.

Diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) is usually triggered by a stressful event, such as an illness or another health problem. The condition may also arise as a result of insufficient insulin therapy. Diabetic ketoacidosis is most common in people with type 1 diabetes, but may also occur in those with type 2 diabetes. Occasionally, diabetic ketoacidosis is the first indication that a person has diabetes.

?

All I was doing is referring to this statement you made:

I'm not trying to be a smart ass but Type 1 diabetes, the type which requires mandatory dialysis

Your statement says that Type 1 Diabetes requires mandatory dialysis.

It does not.

My statement says the type of type 1 diabetes which requires mandatory dialysis. In a previous post I stated most diabetes cases are manageable but not all cases are manageable. That was the original argument of the post to which I was responding.

Initial diabetic management boils down to the ability of the patient to control the disease with diet, exercise, oral hypoglycemic agents, and insulin.

If the patient is unable to control the disease adequately via these means and develops significant end-organ damage of the kidney (diabetic nephropathy), dialysis may become necessary. Further decompensation of renal function can then necessitate a renal transplant, which may be combined with a pancreas transplant (to allow the pt. to make his/her own insulin) in some cases.
Clinically speaking, the need for dialysis or eventual renal transplant depends on the level of renal damage, which is a function of diabetic control and not whether the pt is a Type I or II diabetic.

And yes, I am a physician.

All the best to Mr. Springs.