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14 year old beaten to death...

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:02 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3726041&page=1

Apparently in America you cant beat a 14 year old child to death and get off free.....


It's a good thing those workers didn't beat down a dog, they may have actually went to jail.

Re: 14 year old beaten to death...

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:08 pm
by GSPODS
Chris Luva Luva wrote:http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3726041&page=1

Apparently in America you cant beat a 14 year old child to death and get off free.....


It's a good thing those workers didn't beat down a dog, they may have actually went to jail.


If this had been a white child, would the verdict have been the same?

Re: 14 year old beaten to death...

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:12 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
GSPODS wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3726041&page=1

Apparently in America you cant beat a 14 year old child to death and get off free.....


It's a good thing those workers didn't beat down a dog, they may have actually went to jail.


If this had been a white child, would the verdict have been the same?


Regardless of race, this is disgusting. If the child was purple, he didn't deserve that. Watch the video.

Re: 14 year old beaten to death...

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:15 pm
by GSPODS
[quote="Chris Luva Luva]Regardless of race, this is disgusting. If the child was purple, he didn't deserve that.[/quote]

I agree. I'm simply asking the question. Lawyers tend to see things like this all too frequently. It doesn't make them right, or even acceptable, just common.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:17 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
I don't really like to pull the race card and I won't. I'll simply state that a school yard beat down resulted in attempted murder charges in Jena, a murder in Florida occurs and 0 punishment.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:20 pm
by GSPODS
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I don't really like to pull the race card and I won't. I'll simply state that a school yard beat down resulted in attempted murder charges in Jena, a murder in Florida occurs and 0 punishment.


I don't want to give the impression I'm pulling any race card. First of all, I'm classified by the Federal Government as "Caucasian", so I can't legitimately even attempt that. My thought was that the article went to great pains to point out the "all-white jury". Reading about this type of thing makes me think we should go back to vigilante justice.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:22 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
LOL, dude I"m not saying you are. I just personally don't like to bring it up. It's almost like crying wolf, you do something too much and it lessens the importance of it when it's a legit issue.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:40 pm
by GSPODS
Chris Luva Luva wrote:LOL, dude I"m not saying you are. I just personally don't like to bring it up. It's almost like crying wolf, you do something too much and it lessens the importance of it when it's a legit issue.


I get your point. I'm wondering why you and I are the only two members even commenting on this. I would think this would get everyone's attention.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:57 pm
by Deadskins
I think this is heinous, but I'm not sure it was racially motivated. According to the story in the link, the defense argued that this kind of behavior is expected at these boot camps. That can't be true. Boot camps are supposed to be tough, physically and mentally challenging, but not a place where people are beaten by gangs of thugs. I wouldn't be surprised to see a federal indictment handed down, because there is apparently no justice in Florida.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:34 pm
by 1niksder
Someone should call the Govenor of Florida to see if he has any connections in the Federal goverment, but it'll have to be someone with some pull because this isn't the first time it's happened in Florida

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:40 pm
by EA7649
If someone would have told you that some guy commited aggravated assault and murder. Than someone would of told me that they didnt get to go to jail or any other prison. I would of said your on crack cocaine.

Ridiculous stuff occurs now a days.

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:01 pm
by BeeGee
1niksder wrote:Someone should call the Govenor of Florida to see if he has any connections in the Federal goverment, but it'll have to be someone with some pull because this isn't the first time it's happened in Florida
I wouldn't be quick to call this a race thing, but only in America can you murder someone on tape, the person die following the beating, and not be found criminally liable. It's a complete joke. And Jenna 6 was a schoolyard beatdown, and is not even close to being completely resolved. This act was CAUGHT ON TAPE, yet nobody was found liable.

But this is the America we live in and if you really analyze what's been going on around the country lately, this is about the abuse of authority more than anything. My opinion.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:12 am
by REDEEMEDSKIN
JSPB22 wrote:I think this is heinous, but I'm not sure it was racially motivated.


I agree, especially since there was at least one black officer (is that the word?) involved in the beating. If it was racially motivated, said officer would not have allowed it.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:16 am
by GSPODS
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:I think this is heinous, but I'm not sure it was racially motivated.


I agree, especially since there was at least one black officer (is that the word?) involved in the beating. If it was racially motivated, said officer would not have allowed it.


Have to disagree with you on this one. The Blue Line is thicker than the Black & White line. My 2 cents

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:37 am
by REDEEMEDSKIN
GSPODS wrote:
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:I think this is heinous, but I'm not sure it was racially motivated.


I agree, especially since there was at least one black officer (is that the word?) involved in the beating. If it was racially motivated, said officer would not have allowed it.


Have to disagree with you on this one. The Blue Line is thicker than the Black & White line. My 2 cents


I'm sorry. I do not follow. Please explain.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:37 am
by Sir_Monk
The defense argued that the rough treatment was routine procedure in the get-tough juvenile facility, and that the guards implemented it when Anderson was thought to be faking illness.


I have not followed the case, but was there anything else that warranted this kid getting beaten by 7 people, except faking an illness?

I wonder why the instructors at a boot camp like this are even allowed to touch those kids? The military has prohibited contact from drill sergeants/instructors etc for years.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:46 am
by GSPODS
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:
GSPODS wrote:
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:I think this is heinous, but I'm not sure it was racially motivated.


I agree, especially since there was at least one black officer (is that the word?) involved in the beating. If it was racially motivated, said officer would not have allowed it.


Have to disagree with you on this one. The Blue Line is thicker than the Black & White line. My 2 cents


I'm sorry. I do not follow. Please explain.


The "Blue Line" is a euphemism for the way law enforcement, military, and other cliques of their ilk defend each other above all else. My specific reference was that one black individual is more likely to say nothing at all or to go along with his peers than to make waves. Knowing the situation is out of hand doesn't equate to wanting to risk job security and the respect of one's peers by going against the grain. My 2 cents

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:23 am
by Deadskins
Sir_Monk wrote:
The defense argued that the rough treatment was routine procedure in the get-tough juvenile facility, and that the guards implemented it when Anderson was thought to be faking illness.


I have not followed the case, but was there anything else that warranted this kid getting beaten by 7 people, except faking an illness?

I wonder why the instructors at a boot camp like this are even allowed to touch those kids? The military has prohibited contact from drill sergeants/instructors etc for years.

That was my point. That can't be routine procedure. If it is, then the state is liable. These "officers" are nothing more than bullies abusing their power. That had nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the deficiencies in their personalities. Apparently these camps were totally unregulated.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:16 pm
by dmwc
They cant even hit the 19 year olds at REAL MILITARY boot camps, why is it ok to hit a 14 year old?

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:39 pm
by 1niksder
JSPB22 wrote:That was my point. That can't be routine procedure. If it is, then the state is liable. These "officers" are nothing more than bullies abusing their power.


The defense argued that the rough treatment was routine procedure in the get-tough juvenile facility, and that the guards implemented it when Anderson was thought to be faking illness.

This wasn't the only facility with those rules, they also have regular juvenile boot camps in Florida

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:10 pm
by BeeGee
JSPB22 wrote:
Sir_Monk wrote:
The defense argued that the rough treatment was routine procedure in the get-tough juvenile facility, and that the guards implemented it when Anderson was thought to be faking illness.


I have not followed the case, but was there anything else that warranted this kid getting beaten by 7 people, except faking an illness?

I wonder why the instructors at a boot camp like this are even allowed to touch those kids? The military has prohibited contact from drill sergeants/instructors etc for years.

That was my point. That can't be routine procedure. If it is, then the state is liable. These "officers" are nothing more than bullies abusing their power. That had nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the deficiencies in their personalities. Apparently these camps were totally unregulated.
County Medical Examiner Dr. Charles Siebert said the boy's body had some bruises and abrasions, but he attributed them to attempts to resuscitate the youth.

Siebert said Anderson suffered internal bleeding because he had sickle cell trait, a disorder that caused his red blood cells to change shape and produce "a whole cascade of events" that led to hemorrhaging.

"It was a natural death," he said
This makes me noxious. He died naturally alright... of a natural beating. Even considering the ridiculous injustices that occur to American people everyday, the fact that not one of those 8/9 officers or the "nurse" that stands by watching the boy get beaten lifeless, was found liable, hurts my heart and disturbs me to no end.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:24 pm
by langleyparkjoe
Very sickening.. It really ticks me off that the Feds (meaning all police of any level) are more concerned about 'pit bulls' than a human being. I'm not bashing police, I have nothing against them but our laws really make me wonder sometimes. :(