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Check out this supreme piece of acting from the Brazilian goalkeeper, playing for AC Milan against Celtic.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DZviLX37sMY

Fact - a fan ran on the pitch.

Fact - the fan made contact with the goalkeeper

And then somebody shot the goalkeeper.

Of course, we're quite good at shooting Brazilians over here, but we usually do it at underground stations.

This is in ATL because...?

skinsrule84 wrote:This is in ATL because...?

Multiple Choice Responses:

A: It's Football

B: UKSF thought you needed practice being a Junior Moderator

C: All Brits are confused at this time of year.

D: The supporter who ran onto the field was actually Dieon Sanders

what the crap happend to him? he just fell.

ChocolateMilk wrote:what the crap happend to him? he just fell.

Deion whiff slapped him as he passed by... must've hurt really bad!

Wrong football, UK. Moving to the Lounge. . .

I just hope Dida is okay.

Hopefully he got the sand out of his vagina in time for his annual pap smear.

skinsrule84 wrote:This is in ATL because...?

Dagnabbit. I done gone messed it up again...

Irn-Bru wrote:Wrong football, UK. Moving to the Lounge. . .

Must have been drinking too much tea. As an Englishman, I will of course punish myself later with a severe thrashing.

Countertrey wrote:

skinsrule84 wrote:This is in ATL because...?

Multiple Choice Responses:

A: It's Football

B: UKSF thought you needed practice being a Junior Moderator

C: All Brits are confused at this time of year.

D: The supporter who ran onto the field was actually Dieon Sanders

Good try. C is nearest, but Brits are actually confused all year round. It's Redskins fans who get confused at this time of year in particular.

UK Skins Fan wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:Wrong football, UK. Moving to the Lounge. . .

Must have been drinking too much tea. As an Englishman, I will of course punish myself later with a severe thrashing.

Pele certainly wasn't that feeble, so in answer to your question I would have to say "No", just this particular Brazilian.

Every time I watch this video I keep hearing "Down goes Frazier".

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... 18&cc=5901

GLASGOW, Scotland -- The Celtic fan who ran onto the field and touched AC Milan goalkeeper Dida during a Champions League match was banned for life by the Scottish soccer club Thursday.

GSPODS wrote:

UK Skins Fan wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:Wrong football, UK. Moving to the Lounge. . .

Must have been drinking too much tea. As an Englishman, I will of course punish myself later with a severe thrashing.

Pele certainly wasn't that feeble, so in answer to your question I would have to say "No", just this particular Brazilian.

Every time I watch this video I keep hearing "Down goes Frazier".

Well, here's another Brazilian, in an even more obvious example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgfRCa71Kmw

And I don't know where this guy comes from, but it's a stunning piece of work, a sensitive portrayal of a dying eel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7SnZfyX488&NR=1

UK Skins Fan wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:Wrong football, UK. Moving to the Lounge. . .

Must have been drinking too much tea. As an Englishman, I will of course punish myself later with a severe thrashing.

Since tea is a stimulant, I propose that you punish yourself by balancing the scales and drinking enough beer to calm you back down again. "UK Skins Fan is out of control" - that's what I was thinking to myself as I had to move this from ATL to the Lounge (a very complicated process that takes sec, er, hours to complete).

The Scotsman reports:

A FOOTBALL fan whose "pitch invasion" marred Celtic's victory over AC Milan yesterday was branded "a balloon" by Scotland's First Minister last night.

Speaking at a public meeting, Mr Salmond said: "As every Celtic fan in the country and every Scot would say, the book should be thrown at him.

"I mean, what a balloon. Not only a balloon and not only doing something he shouldn't have been doing - but to do it after Celtic scored?"

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1598422007

So...what does he mean by calling the guy a "balloon"?

welch wrote:The Scotsman reports:

A FOOTBALL fan whose "pitch invasion" marred Celtic's victory over AC Milan yesterday was branded "a balloon" by Scotland's First Minister last night.

Speaking at a public meeting, Mr Salmond said: "As every Celtic fan in the country and every Scot would say, the book should be thrown at him.

"I mean, what a balloon. Not only a balloon and not only doing something he shouldn't have been doing - but to do it after Celtic scored?"

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1598422007

So...what does he mean by calling the guy a "balloon"?

Well, I think (and do please bear in mind that there is a considerable language gap across the border here), that "balloon", in this context, simply means buffoon or fool. Other alternatives would have been: nitwit, pillock, plonker, dipstick, twit, twonk, berk, or prat. There are a number of alternatives available, but I suspect that balloon is simply the Scottish First Minister's favourite alternative to using more extreme language. And as a 24 carat prat himself, he is well qualified to pass judgement.

Irn-Bru wrote:"UK Skins Fan is out of control" - that's what I was thinking to myself as I had to move this from ATL to the Lounge (a very complicated process that takes sec, er, hours to complete).

I think that'll suffice as a new signature for a while.

and do please bear in mind that there is a considerable language gap across the border here

I understand.

My son is a devoted Celtic fan ( ), so one Saturday morning we drove down to Austin -- about 6am -- to watch Celtic massacre some weak team. All the Celtic fans were extremely nice people, but they seemed to speak a different language. I think they understood me, but I have no idea what they were saying. Made room in the cluster, offered us chairs, appeared baffled but pleased to have a couple of "Amuricans" join them, bought us beer and understood when Dan said "lager" and I said "something darker"...but what language was that???

Incidentally, as to the real matter, I have been arguing that the other football should (a) have four on-field referees, like the NFL, and (b) a player who dives should get a red card...no warning, no yellow, just -- bingo -- toss him. Sure, the "fan" should go to jail for touching a player, but Dido should go back to her singing career.

Have to disagree - I'd prefer to see Dido playing in goal for AC Milan, rather than have to listen to her dreadful tunelss dribblings.

I'm not sure that any number of referees is going to help with the play acting issue. Sure, there are some obvious and extreme examples that can be picked out at the time of the game. But the problem with a lot of the acting and diving is that they are very good at it. Even a lot of dives result from legitimate fouls, where the fouled player simply exaggerates the impact in order to ensure that the free kick is awarded.

I'm all for red cards, and if they are awarded retrospectively, then so be it. But the quantum leap in football fairness is going to have to come from the players themselves - I think any officiating changes will only nibble away at the surface of a very large iceberg.

- My daughter would have been supremely furious to have you insult Dido...back when she (or both of them???) were about 17.

- On the extra refs, I think about it this way:

(a) the NFL needs four officials on-field to control the same number of players, who hit harder, and have complicated rules about what is a legal hit: "illegal contact" during a pass, roughing the passer, offensive or defensive pass interferance (is the pass in the air...is it catchable?), clipping, blocking downward at a defender's knees (used to be legal), "crack-back" blocking (also used to be legal), and our old favorite in both sports, snatching a handful of the opponent's jersey for a second or two.

(b) Gridiron football stops after after play, so players and refs can get set (and refs can take a breath)

(c) Soccer-football goes non-stop (aside from those infernal whistles) and players can be all over the pitch

(d) Mischief can happen -- does happen -- behind the referee, or at a long distance from the ref and the line-men. They miss a lot

(e) The game moves fast, especially when a shot approaches 70 / 80 mph and a pass maybe hits 40 mph (top speed). The ref has to look at the ball and how much else can he cover...especially at 50 yards distance?

(f) Finally (yes, Hurrah! ), I don't trust the players to clean up their act unless forced by the League. I saw US college players diving way back in the late '80 -- oh, my shin is broken!!!! -- and watched them sprinting as soon as play started. I've often read that diving was "unmanly" in English football, but introduced by Portuguese and Italians and other imports. Diving seems to have become taught, along with other skills. So, I think heavy punishment is needed. If not a red-card against he diver, how about awarded a goal to the other team? That should get some attention!

The final outcome of this was a 25 grand fine for Celtic and a 2 match ban for the play acting.

What was the thinking? With all the cameras. it was more embarassing than anything else.

Worst thing was it spoiled a great victory for us Celtic fans because we did not know what the punishment would be.

Can anyone think of a time when someone in the NFL acted like that and if so how would the league punish them?

Worst thing was it spoiled a great victory for us Celtic fans because we did not know what the punishment would be.

It did not spoil it for me, I was thrilled to beat AC Millan, after they knocked Celtic out of the Champions league last season. Big game this week against 'gers

Can anyone think of a time when someone in the NFL acted like that and if so how would the league punish them?

The closest corelate that I can think of is the kicker or punter, who is instructed to fall in dramatic fashion if touched by an opposing player. This is a deliberate attempt to draw a penalty, but rarely is an injury feigned. They fall with a dramatic flair, and, unless they really are injured (it happens... see Charlie Gogolak and Ali Hadji Sheikh), they get up and trot off the field.

Interestlingly, the kicker and the punter are the 2 players on the field who most resemble soccer players... in fact, most kickers learn their art on the soccer field... hmmmmmmm....

More often than not, they even get the penalty called, with a resulting first down...