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Two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:32 pm
by GSPODS
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070926/ap_ ... ct_lawsuit
Two provisions of the USA Patriot Act are unconstitutional because they allow search warrants to be issued without a showing of probable cause, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.
U.S. District Judge Ann Aiken ruled that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, as amended by the Patriot Act, "now permits the executive branch of government to conduct surveillance and searches of American citizens without satisfying the probable cause requirements of the Fourth Amendment."
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:45 pm
by GSPODS
Original Post 09/22/2007
Copied from Talking Smack
The problem(s) with The Patriot Act:
opponents of the law have criticized its authorization of indefinite detentions of immigrants; "sneak and peek" searches through which law enforcement officers search a home or business without the owner’s or the occupant’s permission or knowledge; the expanded use of "National Security Letters", which allow the FBI to search telephone, email, and financial records without a court order; and the expanded access of law enforcement agencies to government records, including library and financial records.
The Patriot Act is in direct conflict with the right against unlawful search and seizure without proper issuance of a warrant which specifies the exact location, nature, and items to be searched or seized. I guess Bush thinks he's more important than the Bill Of Rights.
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:01 am
by Redskins Rule
You know I was hearing something on the history channell about something similar. Apparently there was a law that let the Brittish go through peoples homes without warrants. They would inventory what Americans owned then would tax them on it. Can you imagine it? You're working hard making a living then next thing you know government troops show up at your door and start tearing up your home! And before they leave they give you a bill! Needless to say the Americans got pretty freakin pissed off by that!
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:51 pm
by welch
RR said
You know I was hearing something on the history channell about something similar. Apparently there was a law that let the Brittish go through peoples homes without warrants. They would inventory what Americans owned then would tax them on it. Can you imagine it? You're working hard making a living then next thing you know government troops show up at your door and start tearing up your home! And before they leave they give you a bill! Needless to say the Americans got pretty freakin pissed off by that!
James Otis, Samuel Adams, Richard Henry Lee, and George Mason might have expressed it more elegantly, but they would have understood and probably agreed.
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:00 pm
by GSPODS
welch wrote:RR said
You know I was hearing something on the history channell about something similar. Apparently there was a law that let the Brittish go through peoples homes without warrants. They would inventory what Americans owned then would tax them on it. Can you imagine it? You're working hard making a living then next thing you know government troops show up at your door and start tearing up your home! And before they leave they give you a bill! Needless to say the Americans got pretty freakin pissed off by that!
James Otis, Samuel Adams, Richard Henry Lee, and George Mason might have expressed it more elegantly, but they would have understood and probably agreed.
Welch, you may need to change your moniker from Redskins History Buff to All Things History buff. Remind me to never challenge your posts.
"He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures."
"He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power"
"For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us"
"For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States"