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after watching this game and having a night to sleep on it .. what is everyones take on this game? what were some high points and what were some low points?

personally while I felt the D played well I still came away concerned about the secondary.. the Dolphins arent a team thats going to pass all over people but against us they looked solid.. Smoot and Rogers were giving way to much cushion and seemed to be playing in alot of zone coverages.. and where was Springs in the starting line up? getting demoted to Nickel was a big suprise to me ..

our D-Line looked solid although Green did have way to much time to throw the ball in this game.. and I didnt notice alot of blitzes . I dont see who on the Dolphins scares us so much that we were afraid to send some people after Green .. but our run D was very solid and I came away happy with that .. but the fact we didnt send many people on blitzes and that we sat back in alot of zone coverages and with Springs being demoted makes we wonder how confident Gregg is in our secondary.. not blitzing and sitting back was something we did last year because of poor play in that area and now we are tinkering with the line-up back there

on offense I was impressed with how Portis came out and played and felt Betts was solid as well...Clearly Campbell needs a few more games to really get going but you can see hes almost there and his numbers werent helped with Moss dropping a couple( dont see that happening again) and Lloyd not going up and getting that 2nd ball that was picked.. Im sorry but Lloyd is just taking us to the bank.. the guy stopped running his route on that play just flat out looked like he gave up.. so Im very happy to ARE step up and show why hes the teams #2 guy and with that performance yesterday I think he will start to comand some attention and take heat off of Moss and ey.. the Dolphins had to 2 people on ey all day so we will have to try and find some ways to get him the ball

lastly I felt Heyer came and played great against Taylor and Porter..special teams played well .. and the crowd was rocking

A Win. That's what I take from this game.

Must have missed the Springs demotion, I saw him playing and playing pretty well. Rogers is the one who was demoted.

PMI wrote:Must have missed the Springs demotion, I saw him playing and playing pretty well. Rogers is the one who was demoted.

Rogers and Smoot started.. Springs played Nickel .. what made you thing Rogers was demoted

everydayAskinsday wrote:

PMI wrote:Must have missed the Springs demotion, I saw him playing and playing pretty well. Rogers is the one who was demoted.

Rogers and Smoot started.. Springs played Nickel .. what made you thing Rogers was demoted

Correct, Smoot (for reasons unknown) was the starter with Rogers

Fios wrote:Correct, Smoot (for reasons unknown) was the starter with Rogers

That's the way it went during the pre-season, SS only started the first presaeson game and Smoot started with Carlos in the 2nd game. He didn't play in game 3 and I can remember who started the last game but the starters didn't play. No use in asking GW, he'll just say "all of the defensive personell are starters"

1niksder wrote:

Fios wrote:Correct, Smoot (for reasons unknown) was the starter with Rogers

That's the way it went during the pre-season, SS only started the first presaeson game and Smoot started with Carlos in the 2nd game. He didn't play in game 3 and I can remember who started the last game but the starters didn't play. No use in asking GW, he'll just say "all of the defensive personell are starters"

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember hearing about Smoot being the starter during camp. Totally baseless speculation warning: is it possible Springs physical status is such that the team hopes to save him for later in the season and figures they can get by with Smoot as the starter? I have trouble believing Springs' play has deteriorated to the extent that he can't start.

I was under the impression that Springs was still nursing a hamstring injury.

A "WIN", this time last year we were on the other end of a close opener against Minnesota and it set the tone for the whole year. Positives, running game, defense, kicking game. Negatives, let's face it JC had opening game jitters, he won't miss those receivers down the road. Moss's dropped passes, that was a surprise. Give Heyer some "kudo's" for a job well done. Remember "offensively" this was a preseason game, next week it's "prime time" in Philly....

GSPODS wrote:I was under the impression that Springs was still nursing a hamstring injury.

Still? I thought he was supposed to be 100% health-wise.

As for what to take from the game, the best thing I saw was the beginnings of a return to old-school Redskins offense - establish the running game, and then mix in the passing game, especially the play-action. The line was solid, and seemed to get better as the day wore on, as did the RBs - got to love having two strong threats at RB. The Miami D was really looking tired near the end, but there was just enough passing, especially deep passing, to prevent Miami from stacking the box and stopping the ground game. I love that they're letting JC throw the deep ball - just the threat of it is going to keep Ds back on their heels. That's the element JC adds that MB lacked. With half as many completions as Green, JC still got more yards in the air, which shows the deep game is back. I look for this offense to improve as the season wears on, and really light a few teams up.

Springs was noted as having a hammy injury 2 wks ago. Would YOU broadcast that your nickel back wasn't 100% if he wasn't? I sure wouldn't.....

What I got from the game is that the offense still has problems. For most of the game it was run twice and then pass. I can't fault Portis or Betts, they did fine but Campbell looked lost sometimes. How many times did he over throw a wide open receiver...2? 3?. Granted, he wasn't helped with the dropped balls. The receivers seemed to be out of sync and not where they should have been sometimes. Where was ey? He was one of Campbells primary targets in exibition and was thrown to only 3 times. The defense was much better. However, it was apparent why Smoot didn't do well in Minn.

Thankfully, the Redskins were playing Miami and not a good team so in spite of the offense, they won.

aswas71788 wrote:What I got from the game is that the offense still has problems. For most of the game it was run twice and then pass. I can't fault Portis or Betts, they did fine but Campbell looked lost sometimes. How many times did he over throw a wide open receiver...2? 3?. Granted, he wasn't helped with the dropped balls. The receivers seemed to be out of sync and not where they should have been sometimes. Where was ey? He was one of Campbells primary targets in exibition and was thrown to only 3 times. The defense was much better. However, it was apparent why Smoot didn't do well in Minn.

Thankfully, the Redskins were playing Miami and not a good team so in spite of the offense, they won.

No, Miami is not a good team, but they are still a good defense, and given that, I think the offense was good, or at least good enough. If they played like that in Week 10, I'd say otherwise, but in Week 1, it was good enough.

everydayAskinsday wrote:after watching this game and havong night to sleep on it ...

I agree with most points made in your post.

What do I take from this game? An ugly lovely win and the thought that, if things do not improve, we may end up at 9-7 at the end of the season.

It was the first game and execution was not great. I sincerely hope that they execute better in the passing game on offense and defense next week.

VetSkinsFan wrote:Springs was noted as having a hammy injury 2 wks ago. Would YOU broadcast that your nickel back wasn't 100% if he wasn't? I sure wouldn't.....

Springs told SportsTalk 980 that he was told just prior to the game that they were going to start Smoot.

Redskin in Canada wrote:What do I take from this game? An ugly lovely win and the thought that, if things do not improve, we may end up at 9-7 at the end of the season.

A win is a win can only go so far but no one in the NFC East looked good this week (OK if I good tell how bad the Gints really are it would give more insight on ttiT). 9-7 might get the Skins into the playoff this year but I don't think I want to go though a season like that and I hope the players feel the same way.

Redskin in Canada wrote:It was the first game and execution was not great. I sincerely hope that they execute better in the passing game on offense and defense next week.

First game any of them had to come out and play a whole game. Near the end you could see a lot of Dolphins "taking a knee" whenever possible, didn't see too many Skins like that so the conditioning might be there. Maybe it's more mental (receivers where open but dropped the ball, so did a Corner ), in other words the players were in the right place to make the play they just didn't make the play. like you I'm hoping it can be writen off to rust.

Interviewer: "Coach Cameron, how do you feel about your team's execution?"

Coach Cameron: "I'm all for it."

Fios wrote:

1niksder wrote:

Fios wrote:Correct, Smoot (for reasons unknown) was the starter with Rogers

That's the way it went during the pre-season, SS only started the first presaeson game and Smoot started with Carlos in the 2nd game. He didn't play in game 3 and I can remember who started the last game but the starters didn't play. No use in asking GW, he'll just say "all of the defensive personell are starters"

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember hearing about Smoot being the starter during camp. Totally baseless speculation warning: is it possible Springs physical status is such that the team hopes to save him for later in the season and figures they can get by with Smoot as the starter? I have trouble believing Springs' play has deteriorated to the extent that he can't start.

Shake,

I said over and over even before preseason that Springs was done. He wouldn't restructure, he's injury prone, and he was a major liability last year when he tried to come back. He was a great player, for the Seahawks.

Not sure why you're defending this guy or think he's coming back. Springs was brought in to make us forget about losing Champ Bailey. He didn't. I'd be lamenting the loss of Joe Salavea or Lemar Marshall much more than this guy. I'd start Macklin or Byron Westbrook over Springs.

HanburgerHelper wrote:

Fios wrote:

1niksder wrote:

Fios wrote:Correct, Smoot (for reasons unknown) was the starter with Rogers

That's the way it went during the pre-season, SS only started the first presaeson game and Smoot started with Carlos in the 2nd game. He didn't play in game 3 and I can remember who started the last game but the starters didn't play. No use in asking GW, he'll just say "all of the defensive personell are starters"

Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember hearing about Smoot being the starter during camp. Totally baseless speculation warning: is it possible Springs physical status is such that the team hopes to save him for later in the season and figures they can get by with Smoot as the starter? I have trouble believing Springs' play has deteriorated to the extent that he can't start.

Shake,

I said over and over even before preseason that Springs was done. He wouldn't restructure, he's injury prone, and he was a major liability last year when he tried to come back. He was a great player, for the Seahawks.

Not sure why you're defending this guy or think he's coming back. Springs was brought in to make us forget about losing Champ Bailey. He didn't. I'd be lamenting the loss of Joe Salavea or Lemar Marshall much more than this guy. I'd start Macklin or Byron Westbrook over Springs.

That's just crazy talk.
Springs is a very good defender even with diminishing skills. He is as physical a corner as there is. I love Smoot but man was he making me yesterday. He was biting on every fake Chambers gave him.

Even with diminishing skills??????????

Why? Because he didn't play much?

Why? Because he was getting beat by Chambers all night like SMOOOOOOOT?

I dunno about that. I think he wouldn't restructure and that pissed off GW. GW wants to prove something like not letting Arch play, and Lavar.

OK Arch can't cover.. They replaced him with someone else because of that. I can understand that was not how we planned to use him.

So then, why didn't GW use him after he replaced him, the way he first planned? Put him in only on running downs???? And same for Lavar. Lavar didn't know the coverage......Lavar didn't know the plays......well he knows how to tackle and he knows how to blitz, so use him in those situations, but no GW don't.

Why? Its all to prove something. Just like not useing Springs after he wouldn't take a cut..

Whats the difference in Portis coming back this year with a chip on his shoulder and Gibbs letting him know he hasn't lost his job while out. After everyone is saying he's injury prone.

And GW doing the exact opposit with Springs.. Springs looks in great shape and trained hard this offseason with something to prove this year. And here we are, with GW not going to give the guy a chance.

IMO