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Cooley vs. Shockey..... who is better

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:52 pm
by tribeofjudah
Who really is better overall...?
Stats, toughness, smarts, team player?

You know my vote is for Cooley. Any thoughts?

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:54 pm
by GSPODS
Are you kidding me? Shockey's mouth is the biggest part of his game. I'll bet he could catch more passes with his teeth than with his hands. The only problem I see with Cooley is that he just signed that huge contract extension and usually that means an off year. I'd still take one Cooley over any number of Shockey's.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:10 pm
by tribeofjudah
Yeah, I just see Shockey on TV more than Cooley. He seems to be more popular, getting more exposure.

Some people just rave about Shockey. Cooley should be in those NFL Network commercials.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:40 pm
by Justice Hog
Today, Shockey is bettter. Cooley was a non-factor in the Fins game. Next week, we'll see.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:49 pm
by Skinsfan55
Shockey might be a loudmouth, but have you HEARD the stories on Cooley?

He walks the walk without any of the talk.

He's an out of control party animal... is that really better than what TO or Shockey do?

Anyway, that's off topic, but it's pretty obvious that Shockey is the better player, and this coming from a big Cooley fan (rock star lifestyle be damned!)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:58 pm
by ChocolateMilk
Shockey is better because he's freakin crazy. i mean i hate him but i have to respect him. you remember when his helmet came off and he just kept running? i mean the guy has a huge mouth and i cant stand him but he has a lot of talent and heart.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:00 am
by jazzskins
On a pure talent level, Shockey is a better receiving tight end. But Cooley is the better all around Tight End. Also, Shockey has a few years on Cooley. Shockey has already peaked. Cooley is just hitting his stride.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:35 am
by The Hogster
Cooley....

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:55 am
by redskindave
Cooley.. hands down

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:44 am
by Chris Luva Luva
Hmmm, I think they are very similiar. I believe that one is just more brash than the other.

I think Shockey is a bit faster than Cooley but I believe that Cooley has better hands. Aside from those two factors, they're alike in many respects.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:10 am
by jazzskins
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Hmmm, I think they are very similiar. I believe that one is just more brash than the other.

I think Shockey is a bit faster than Cooley but I believe that Cooley has better hands. Aside from those two factors, they're alike in many respects.


Thats a fair assessment.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:06 am
by BernieSki
Justice Hog wrote:Today, Shockey is bettter. Cooley was a non-factor in the Fins game. Next week, we'll see.


The Dolphins doubled Cooley all day, I am sure that they look at the preseason games and knew that he was Campbell's favorite target. After ARE's huge game I am sure that Cooley will not get as many double coverages his way. It is nice to have several weapons.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:24 am
by skinsfan#33
If you are throwin gin the team mate part this isn't close... Cooley.

Shockey has been used by Ny as their #1 option with plays designed just to go to him. He is a little faster than Cooley, but doesn't have Cooley's nack for finding a zone or the end zone. Cooley had 9 more TD in his first 3 years than Shockey in his first 3. Shockey has played 2 more years thamn Cooley and only has 5 more TDs.

With Saunders calling the plays, Cooley is becoming more of a down field threat. Miami double Cooley and Moss all game and ARE reaped the rewards!

Next week against Philly Cooley is going to have a huge game! I don't think Philly has the talent on D to double Moss and Cooley. With Lito Sheppard out (maybe), and ARE having a huge game, I think Jim Johnson will take his chances with Cooley 1 on 1 with a safety of LB and that will be a huge mistake?

Re: Cooley vs. Shockey..... who is better

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:08 am
by cleg
tribeofjudah wrote:Who really is better overall...?
Stats, toughness, smarts, team player?

You know my vote is for Cooley. Any thoughts?


Not even close. Cooley is the better TE - what, exactly has Scockey done other than run his mouth and get tattos?

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:46 pm
by VetSkinsFan
Anyone here who says that Shockey ISN'T a talented TE is lying to themselves and us here on THN. I don't compare stats, there are enough number crunchers here, but they are both good. Shockey has a raw passion that gets him in over his head a lot for his team.

Bottom line is this: I wouldn't want to face eitehr one of them on D....

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:29 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
Cooley has a better attitude.

Re: Cooley vs. Shockey..... who is better

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:31 pm
by Deadskins
cleg wrote:what, exactly has Scockey done other than run his mouth and get tattos?

I've been asking myself the same question.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:06 pm
by Jake
Shockey who?

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:21 am
by HEROHAMO
Cooley is better because he really does not bash his Qb like Shockey does. Every bad pass that Eli makes to Shockey you see Shockey yelling across the field to ELi. IT is hillarious. :lol:

As far as talent goes they are about the same. As far as intangibles Cooley moves ahead of him. Cooley just handles his biz. If he has to block all game to help the team win, he does it without hesitation.

Cooley all the way bro.

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:19 am
by SkinsJock
I can't stand Shockey but IMO he is a better player than Cooley.

I think we are a better team with Cooley than if we had Shockey but that is what makes the NFL so great - most coaches want a player like Cooley rather than a Shockey because they make the team better.