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The Hogster wrote:We need to use some of those 7 draft picks next year on a stud Tackle. Jansen needs to re-dedicate his body or something because he's not old enough to start looking like that.

Not sure he should be benched though.

The Hogster wrote:We need to use some of those 7 draft picks next year on a stud Tackle.

The Hogster wrote: Jansen needs to re-dedicate his body or something because he's not old enough to start looking like that.

Not sure he should be benched though.

patjam77 wrote:OK guys... First off, let me say I have always been a huge Jon Jansen fan. I watched him at Michigan and was eleated when the Skins' drafted him. He's been a true warrior for this team. I'm afraid though, his time has run out as a starter. He again almost got Campbell killed last night. He's gotten beat continuously this preseason. I'm sorry but I have to start the push for Wade to start at right tackle. It's been well publicized that Wade looked better in practice last year and I'm sure once healthy he would again. Jansen does OK run blocking but his pass blocking is pretty bad right now. I know that this is sacrilegious to most of you but what do you guys think?

Flame away.

Mods, if this topic has already been visited in another thread, I apologize.

redskin1 wrote:Looking at the 2008 cap numbers we might want to use AT LEASE half those picks on O-line in general.
Jansen, 8,833,000
Thomas, 8,756,000

Sgraham wrote:

patjam77 wrote:OK guys... First off, let me say I have always been a huge Jon Jansen fan. I watched him at Michigan and was eleated when the Skins' drafted him. He's been a true warrior for this team. I'm afraid though, his time has run out as a starter. He again almost got Campbell killed last night. He's gotten beat continuously this preseason. I'm sorry but I have to start the push for Wade to start at right tackle. It's been well publicized that Wade looked better in practice last year and I'm sure once healthy he would again. Jansen does OK run blocking but his pass blocking is pretty bad right now. I know that this is sacrilegious to most of you but what do you guys think?

Flame away.

Mods, if this topic has already been visited in another thread, I apologize.

It amazes me how quickly we forget how much some of these players have given this team over the years. We go from "Man he is good" to "Man his time has passed". Jansen played last year, the year before, and maybe the year before that with injuries that most players would have sat down with.

Cut these guys some slack.

patjam77 wrote:

Sgraham wrote:

patjam77 wrote:OK guys... First off, let me say I have always been a huge Jon Jansen fan. I watched him at Michigan and was eleated when the Skins' drafted him. He's been a true warrior for this team. I'm afraid though, his time has run out as a starter. He again almost got Campbell killed last night. He's gotten beat continuously this preseason. I'm sorry but I have to start the push for Wade to start at right tackle. It's been well publicized that Wade looked better in practice last year and I'm sure once healthy he would again. Jansen does OK run blocking but his pass blocking is pretty bad right now. I know that this is sacrilegious to most of you but what do you guys think?

Flame away.

Mods, if this topic has already been visited in another thread, I apologize.

It amazes me how quickly we forget how much some of these players have given this team over the years. We go from "Man he is good" to "Man his time has passed". Jansen played last year, the year before, and maybe the year before that with injuries that most players would have sat down with.

Cut these guys some slack.

wow... settle bud. I think I'm stating the obvious with this guy. I don't want to cut the guy, but I don't want him starting and playing like he has.

Fios wrote:

patjam77 wrote:

Sgraham wrote:

patjam77 wrote:OK guys... First off, let me say I have always been a huge Jon Jansen fan. I watched him at Michigan and was eleated when the Skins' drafted him. He's been a true warrior for this team. I'm afraid though, his time has run out as a starter. He again almost got Campbell killed last night. He's gotten beat continuously this preseason. I'm sorry but I have to start the push for Wade to start at right tackle. It's been well publicized that Wade looked better in practice last year and I'm sure once healthy he would again. Jansen does OK run blocking but his pass blocking is pretty bad right now. I know that this is sacrilegious to most of you but what do you guys think?

Flame away.

Mods, if this topic has already been visited in another thread, I apologize.

It amazes me how quickly we forget how much some of these players have given this team over the years. We go from "Man he is good" to "Man his time has passed". Jansen played last year, the year before, and maybe the year before that with injuries that most players would have sat down with.

Cut these guys some slack.

wow... settle bud. I think I'm stating the obvious with this guy. I don't want to cut the guy, but I don't want him starting and playing like he has.

Why does he need to settle down? The post isn't angry and doesn't violate any rules. You posted, he replied.

patjam77 wrote:

Fios wrote:

patjam77 wrote:

Sgraham wrote:

patjam77 wrote:OK guys... First off, let me say I have always been a huge Jon Jansen fan. I watched him at Michigan and was eleated when the Skins' drafted him. He's been a true warrior for this team. I'm afraid though, his time has run out as a starter. He again almost got Campbell killed last night. He's gotten beat continuously this preseason. I'm sorry but I have to start the push for Wade to start at right tackle. It's been well publicized that Wade looked better in practice last year and I'm sure once healthy he would again. Jansen does OK run blocking but his pass blocking is pretty bad right now. I know that this is sacrilegious to most of you but what do you guys think?

Flame away.

Mods, if this topic has already been visited in another thread, I apologize.

It amazes me how quickly we forget how much some of these players have given this team over the years. We go from "Man he is good" to "Man his time has passed". Jansen played last year, the year before, and maybe the year before that with injuries that most players would have sat down with.

Cut these guys some slack.

wow... settle bud. I think I'm stating the obvious with this guy. I don't want to cut the guy, but I don't want him starting and playing like he has.

Why does he need to settle down? The post isn't angry and doesn't violate any rules. You posted, he replied.

Because no one said a word about a thing he said. I think he's assuming everyone wants to just toss the guy aside. I would say most of us are agreeing that he's struggling right now and that the best guy should be in there, not the most experienced. No one has forgotten anything.

JSPB22 wrote:

patjam77 wrote:

Fios wrote:

patjam77 wrote:

Sgraham wrote:

patjam77 wrote:OK guys... First off, let me say I have always been a huge Jon Jansen fan. I watched him at Michigan and was eleated when the Skins' drafted him. He's been a true warrior for this team. I'm afraid though, his time has run out as a starter. He again almost got Campbell killed last night. He's gotten beat continuously this preseason. I'm sorry but I have to start the push for Wade to start at right tackle. It's been well publicized that Wade looked better in practice last year and I'm sure once healthy he would again. Jansen does OK run blocking but his pass blocking is pretty bad right now. I know that this is sacrilegious to most of you but what do you guys think?

Flame away.

Mods, if this topic has already been visited in another thread, I apologize.

It amazes me how quickly we forget how much some of these players have given this team over the years. We go from "Man he is good" to "Man his time has passed". Jansen played last year, the year before, and maybe the year before that with injuries that most players would have sat down with.

Cut these guys some slack.

wow... settle bud. I think I'm stating the obvious with this guy. I don't want to cut the guy, but I don't want him starting and playing like he has.

Why does he need to settle down? The post isn't angry and doesn't violate any rules. You posted, he replied.

Because no one said a word about a thing he said. I think he's assuming everyone wants to just toss the guy aside. I would say most of us are agreeing that he's struggling right now and that the best guy should be in there, not the most experienced. No one has forgotten anything.

A "struggling" Jansen is still the best RT we have.

Fios wrote:

The Hogster wrote:We need to use some of those 7 draft picks next year on a stud Tackle. Jansen needs to re-dedicate his body or something because he's not old enough to start looking like that.

Not sure he should be benched though.

patjam77 wrote:I'm really not sure about that anymore. Wade was said to be besting him in practice last year, and from what I saw of him playing the tackle position, they might be right.

Irn-Bru wrote:

patjam77 wrote:I'm really not sure about that anymore. Wade was said to be besting him in practice last year, and from what I saw of him playing the tackle position, they might be right.

Is there a source for this?

Hogster wrote:Our entire O-Line is over 30, so if we don't draft replacements now...we're gonna have to spend HIGH dollars in FA trying to sign vets to fill these positions.

Irn-Bru wrote:

patjam77 wrote:I'm really not sure about that anymore. Wade was said to be besting him in practice last year, and from what I saw of him playing the tackle position, they might be right.

Is there a source for this?

Seems I've been hearing a lot about some guy named Heyer lately.

patjam77 wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:

patjam77 wrote:I'm really not sure about that anymore. Wade was said to be besting him in practice last year, and from what I saw of him playing the tackle position, they might be right.

Is there a source for this?

I know what you are getting at and I can't tell you the specific date, but most of us read the washington post and I've seen it printed in there several times.

The Hogster wrote:I don't see why Skins fans get so attached to a single player. I said in my post that Jansen probably still deserves to start, but some of us reply with Rolly Eyes when its suggested that we should ......SAY draft for the FUTURE?

Our entire O-Line is over 30, so if we don't draft replacements now...we're gonna have to spend HIGH dollars in FA trying to sign vets to fill these positions.

Anyone want to spend 45 million on Derrick Dockery?? Maybe some of us would. It's not being fickle, its being real. Even Joe Jacoby had to move to guard in his later years. After playing nearly a decade in the NFC east along the Offensive line of a usually run first team, it will take a toll on your body.

Jansen has endured a torn an Achilles, broken two thumbs, and wears a rubber brace on his elbows...I guess is the correct response whenever someone suggests that he's not the player he used to be.

patjam77 wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:

patjam77 wrote:I'm really not sure about that anymore. Wade was said to be besting him in practice last year, and from what I saw of him playing the tackle position, they might be right.

Is there a source for this?

I know what you are getting at and I can't tell you the specific date, but most of us read the washington post and I've seen it printed in there several times.

Irn-Bru wrote:

patjam77 wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:

patjam77 wrote:I'm really not sure about that anymore. Wade was said to be besting him in practice last year, and from what I saw of him playing the tackle position, they might be right.

Is there a source for this?

I know what you are getting at and I can't tell you the specific date, but most of us read the washington post and I've seen it printed in there several times.

I wasn't attacking you; I just don't remember ever seeing that. I'm ready to believe it, if it's reported from a reliable person or organization; it's not like I find that out of the question. But I'm a bit skeptical, at least, until then.

Posted at 9:52 PM ET, 03/14/2007
Todd Wade - It's Getting Close
Hey there. I know that the NFL Network is reporting a deal with Wade is done. And I don't doubt it will get done (I think I had him at least tied for the highest score in America's Next Top Dock a while back). But I have multiple sources on both sides of the negotiations telling me that as of 11 pm ish Wed. night, they were very close but had not in fact agreed to terms.

So I got's to go with that. Have to play it safe and go with what I know. I do believe they will get a multi-year deal done by Thursday.

Several players said privately that facing Wade in practice last season was often more difficult than going against starting tackle Jon Jansen, and Wade's return, when coupled with the re-signing of Mike Pucillo, would give Washington solid depth at vital positions.

Wade (6-foot-8, 317 pounds) was originally selected 53rd overall by Miami in 2000 and was signed to a hefty contract by Houston in 2004, including a $10-million bonus. He started 13 games for the Texans that season but suffered a career-threatening knee injury in 2005, and was signed by the Redskins last September. He recovered fully from the knee problems and, should the sides complete a multi-year deal as expected, could fill a crucial role in 2007.

Per Jason La Confora