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I noticed in the Hamilton Spectator that he will be in the lineup tonight when the Hamilton Tiger-Cats(0-5) host the Winnipeg Blue Bombers(3-1-1). His first action since he signed July 11th. For anybody in Canada the game is televised on TSN and in the States it will be on Fox Sports NY and NESN for sure for anyone who has them. Also be able to catch a glimpse of Jesse Lumsden.

redskingush wrote: Also be able to catch a glimpse of Jesse Lumsden.

211 yards, 2 TDs, MVP of the game.

Why did we not keep him?

Wow....I thought he just went with the whole music thing and gave up football.

Thanks

Letting Jesse go was another fantastic FO move....

Guys, let's keep this in perspective.

The CFL is like Division I-AA college football with a few former pros in it.

McCants could win the MVP of the CFL for 5 straight years and he would still only be a 3rd WR on his very, very, very best day.

Skinsfan55 wrote:The CFL is like Division I-AA college football with a few former pros in it.

McCants could win the MVP of the CFL for 5 straight years and he would still only be a 3rd WR on his very, very, very best day.

I don't think that's a very accurate assessment.

And with NFL Europe closing, where do you think all of the 'project' players are going to play? Get used to seeing NFLers coming to the CFL, it'll be the new farm system.

You can't even really compare the two leagues - they play totally different games of football with totally different sets of rules.

If your assessment was true, then every NFL player that ever came to the CFL would dominate - they don't. In fact, surprisingly few of them experience success in the CFL, because it's a completely different game. They in some instances require different skill sets entirely.

There's no denying that the CFL has inferior talent in it's player pool, please don't misunderstand, but to ignore the differences in the game is to ignore what makes it quite possible for players to transition to either league.

BossHog wrote:You can't even really compare the two leagues - they play totally different games of football with totally different sets of rules.

Right, and to be fair, ripping up a game in the CFL has absolutely no bearing on potential NFL success either.

BossHog wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:The CFL is like Division I-AA college football with a few former pros in it.

McCants could win the MVP of the CFL for 5 straight years and he would still only be a 3rd WR on his very, very, very best day.

I don't think that's a very accurate assessment.

And with NFL Europe closing, where do you think all of the 'project' players are going to play? Get used to seeing NFLers coming to the CFL, it'll be the new farm system.

You can't even really compare the two leagues - they play totally different games of football with totally different sets of rules.

If your assessment was true, then every NFL player that ever came to the CFL would dominate - they don't. In fact, surprisingly few of them experience success in the CFL, because it's a completely different game. They in some instances require different skill sets entirely.

There's no denying that the CFL has inferior talent in it's player pool, please don't misunderstand, but to ignore the differences in the game is to ignore what makes it quite possible for players to transition to either league.

I know the CFL is "different", but I don't really know how it's "different" such that players don't always translate from one league to another. Got any links or anything? I'm just curious about this.

BossHog wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:
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There's no denying that the CFL has inferior talent in it's player pool, please don't misunderstand, but to ignore the differences in the game is to ignore what makes it quite possible for players to transition to either league.

Okay, I'll agree with that. There are certain skills that lead to success in the CFL and that studying which types of players transition well, etc., will give front offices an edge in recruiting former CFL'ers.

Still, the overall point is that Darnerian McCants has already proven, at least IMO, that he doesn't have the skills to be a good NFL player. Furthermore, like the poster after you said, short term CFL success doesn't really mean anything (at least on its own).

(Another thing, maybe this is for another thread entirely, but I don't believe the CFL will be seeing that many more players because NFL Europe shut down. NFL Europe was sanctioned by the NFL and all the privileges that entailed... it seems to me that NFL teams have been reluctant to have their players play in another league. Any project players that the team at all wishes to keep will stay, at least until some high profile CFL'ers find success in the NFL, then more free agents who once had promise may be willing to showcase themselves in Canada.

Just a quick update after 7 games:

Jesse Lumsden

67 carries
592 Yards
8.8 Avg
3 TD

20 receptions
296 yards
2 TD

McCants

1 Rec for 7 Yards, but only been in 2 games.

Ok...didn't the Skins once pick up a QB from the CFL...Joe Theisman, or however he spelled it.

Different game? As best I remember from the '50's, when the NFL wasn't all-devouring and CFL games were sometimes broadcast in DC:

- 3 downs, not 4

- wider field

- longer field by about 10 (?) yards

- a team can score a point, called a "rouge", if it kicks the ball into the opponent's end-zone. No touch-back. You have to fight your way out of the end-zone.

- More than one player can be in motion (?)

- A player can be in motion toward the line of scrimmage, rather than parallel

- 12 players (?)

My impression is that CFL players are a lighter than in the NFL, but speed counts.

So...a slightly different game...not one made for Joe Gibbs gut-punch runs. More passing, I think, and I believe that passers need to be more mobile...which is the direction the NFL is going.