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Laron Landry, S, LSU

Landry is a cross between Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu. With enough speed to adequately play pass coverage, Landry excels at run support. Landry boasts the speed to make plays sideline to sideline against the run. The versatile Landry, a four-year starter at LSU, possesses enough size, agility and ball skills to match up with the NFL’s new aged tight ends. The one knock on Landry is his lack of ideal size. At 213 pounds some NFL executives wonder if Landry’s lack of size will result in injury, due to the hurtle collisions that accrue at the safety position. Any team that drafts Landry will get a safety that has the potential to be a game-changing player, which is difficult to find in the NFL.

i think he's wrong about Alan Branch though, he looks really good and im surprised he dropped to the 2nd round

The one knock on Landry is his lack of ideal size. At 213 pounds some NFL executives wonder if Landry’s lack of size will result in injury, due to the hurtle collisions that accrue at the safety position.

L Landry: 213 lbs
T Polamalu: 212 lbs
E Reed: 200 lbs


There might still be merit to what they're saying (I haven't checked into height / weight ratios or anything), but it does seem suspicious that the 2 great safeties they compared him to actually weigh less, and he gets knocked for weight.

Irn-Bru wrote:

The one knock on Landry is his lack of ideal size. At 213 pounds some NFL executives wonder if Landry’s lack of size will result in injury, due to the hurtle collisions that accrue at the safety position.

L Landry: 213 lbs
T Polamalu: 212 lbs
E Reed: 200 lbs


There might still be merit to what they're saying (I haven't checked into height / weight ratios or anything), but it does seem suspicious that the 2 great safeties they compared him to actually weigh less, and he gets knocked for weight.

^^^ good point FFA

praise indeed to be compared to those two - though a little early IMO - hopefully in a short while he can be included with these 2 very good players.

Irn-Bru wrote:

The one knock on Landry is his lack of ideal size. At 213 pounds some NFL executives wonder if Landry’s lack of size will result in injury, due to the hurtle collisions that accrue at the safety position.

L Landry: 213 lbs
T Polamalu: 212 lbs
E Reed: 200 lbs


There might still be merit to what they're saying (I haven't checked into height / weight ratios or anything), but it does seem suspicious that the 2 great safeties they compared him to actually weigh less, and he gets knocked for weight.

Yeah, good stuff, Irn-Bru!

At 213 pounds some NFL executives wonder if Landry’s lack of size will result in injury

Landry was a four-year starter at LSU and played in the SEC.

Umm... how many games did Landry miss over those four years due to injury?

ZERO!

Landry, at 6'2", is significantly taller than Polamalu (5'10") and Reed (5'11"), so he is more slender than both men.

But I still don't see that as a valid concern, especially considering he can (and probably will) be able to add mass at his age.

Steve Spurrier III wrote:Landry, at 6'2", is significantly taller than Polamalu (5'10") and Reed (5'11"), so he is more slender than both men.

But I still don't see that as a valid concern, especially considering he can (and probably will) be able to add mass at his age.

So are you trying to say that they are more "solid" than Landry?

I don't know an exact definition of "solid". My only point is that Landry does in fact have a higher height to weight ratio than Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed. Whether that's even a problem, I don't know.

Steve Spurrier III wrote:I don't know an exact definition of "solid". My only point is that Landry does in fact have a higher height to weight ratio than Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed. Whether that's even a problem, I don't know.

LOL, I was about to ask you the same thing.

By solid, I use Rock as an example. Being shorter kinda gives you a lower center of gravity and makes you a bit more "solid" cus it's all compacted in a smaller frame.

I was wondering if that's what you were getting at in your comparison.

That's true. Although it's not how low you naturally are, but rather how low you can get on the field that is going to determine how successful you are. Shorter players do have an advantage in that department, but something tells me that neither Landry or the Redskins would give away those three inches even if they could.

Just as a comparison, Sean Taylor is 6'2", 232. I think Landry has room to add mass should he want to, but I'm not concerned about his body type at all.

How hard is it to really gain ten pounds? No worries at all. Plenty of players come out of college and gain muscle in the next level.

Considering current circumstances, I am going to change an old adage "it's not the size of the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man that is more of a determining factor"

Landry will obviously be at whatever weight he needs to be to be the most effective. I think our 2 safeties will affect some teams game planning this year and I think Williams' defense will be a force this year because as a group (and with the assistant coaches help) they will make the players around them more effective.

this argument is retarted, really shows how bad this post draft/ pre pre-season time really is. the author of that article doesnt know what he's talking about. players never get hurt because they don't weigh enough, ever! players get hurt because their limbs are twisted it unnatural ways, or have extreme force put on them in an akward position, or have damaged/ weak tendons or ligaments, or are dehydrated/ tight. ect ect ect. hmm none of those had anything to do with his height or weight; LL has never missed a game and there are 0 indications he will have that problem in the league.

Also, those who deliver the big "hits" get hurt far less than those who receive them.

SeanTaylorJr. wrote:this argument is retarted, really shows how bad this post draft/ pre pre-season time really is. the author of that article doesnt know what he's talking about. players never get hurt because they don't weigh enough, ever! players get hurt because their limbs are twisted it unnatural ways, or have extreme force put on them in an akward position, or have damaged/ weak tendons or ligaments, or are dehydrated/ tight. ect ect ect. hmm none of those had anything to do with his height or weight; LL has never missed a game and there are 0 indications he will have that problem in the league.

Height and weight can be good indicators of strength and ability to take a hit. If you have a 230 lb. running back running full speed, and a safety flies in to make a hit, a 20 lb. difference will be hugely important on the following events. Think about the damage that happens when you have a Honda Civic colliding with an Hummer as opposed to another Civic (with all other things being equal). Throw a small enough safety in there -- however well conditioned he may be -- and he's going to get hurt.

One additional problem is when players add too much weight, they can also incur injury. When a wide receiver has a lot of extra weight, even if it's muscle, he may gain an advantage in breaking tackles or positioning down field to make a catch, but his knees and other ligaments will take a much harder beating than they would normally (i.e., if he stuck to a more natural body weight for his frame). As far as I understand it, this is essentially what happened to David Boston: incredible talent and ability, amazing strength, but just a bit too much weight for his frame. He started getting injuries all of the time, and especially knee injuries.