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I'm pretty sure that Landry will come out making more money than Sean Taylor and we all know that Taylor is not happy with his salary.

1. Will Landry's check make Taylor bitter?

2. How much harder will it make it to resign Taylor?

3. Will Landry be on time for camp and who the heck is his agent?

I will say that I think Taylor is one of the better players at keeping what's going on outside of the game on the sidelines. His play doesn't seem to be effected once his helmet is on.

I do think it's going to be hard to resign Taylor.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I'm pretty sure that Landry will come out making more money than Sean Taylor and we all know that Taylor is not happy with his salary.

1. Will Landry's check make Taylor bitter?

2. How much harder will it make it to resign Taylor?

3. Will Landry be on time for camp and who the heck is his agent?

I will say that I think Taylor is one of the better players at keeping what's going on outside of the game on the sidelines. His play doesn't seem to be effected once his helmet is on.

I do think it's going to be hard to resign Taylor.

I think you're right that Landry's deal will no doubt make Taylor bitter, so I hope the team make clear to Sean their appreciation for his efforts and their desire to sign him to the sort of lucrative long-term contract he deserves. Keeping your own top-tier talent should be the first priority, obviously.

I don't want them to get pushed around by a player but someone of Taylor's ability, you have to resign him to a longer deal.

frankcal20 wrote:I don't want them to get pushed around by a player but someone of Taylor's ability, you have to resign him to a longer deal.

I understand what you're saying but... I don't even feel like going there this morning. This team needs to do its best to resign its own players. If we can "overspend" on trash why not on our own players?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

frankcal20 wrote:I don't want them to get pushed around by a player but someone of Taylor's ability, you have to resign him to a longer deal.

I understand what you're saying but... I don't even feel like going there this morning. This team needs to do its best to resign its own players. If we can "overspend" on trash why not on our own players?

We also need to start winning. Good teams, teams which can assure players a decent shot at a ring, have to pay less, because players generally prefer to win. Look at how New England has gotten players at less than full market value because guys know their chances of getting to the playoffs and maybe Super Bowl are better there. I know even winning teams can lose players - Indy seems to bleed talent, especially on defense, on a regular basis - but when it comes to choosing between a consistent winner or a consistent loser, most players want to go with a winner.

Whats the chances of them re-structuring Taylors contract to a more lucrative long term deal, in parallel with signing Landry?

I don't think Landry's signing money really affects Sean Taylor at all. The money draft picks get isn't exactly arbirtrary. The #1 pick makes a deal, and it cascades down from there.

Its not like the Skins going out and signing an Archuleta - which Taylor and every other 'skin has a right to be bitter about. (How about giving me a raise instead of wasting all this money on Adam Archuleta??)

Totally agree with everybody though that I'd like to see some kind of restructuring done for Taylor sooner than later. That guy earns his money.

I of course agree with everyone that Taylor needs to be re-signed this year if at all possible. But I think it's assuming that Taylor is pretty shallow to say that he'll resent Landry's contract.

Landry will sign his contract, Taylor will take care of business, and I think the front office will take care of theirs, too. There are no winners and losers in all of this, only Redskins.

My take on this is that I just hope that Sean realizes how much we,fans, want him and appreciate his efforts and play maker ability. I really want him to stay with the Redskins rather than go somewhere else once his contract expires. Many time players want to go somewhere else because of money or just to start over because they are not happy with their current situation on the team....I am sure Landry's contract will make Sean scrach his head a couple of times. I beleive Sean's contract was for 7 years, so he should still have 3 years left..Well, to finish, I just really hope we can extend his contract before it expires so that he can stay here for a long time, man he is a heck of a player and it would be very sad to see him leave to another team. Can you image, once Landry gets familiar with the defensive scheme, how good of a secondary we are going to have....hell, our LB's wont tackle nobody because our safeties will be there first trying to take somebody's head off...jejejeje....Man, we have so much potential...

I think that simple economics has to be factored in this as well, and Taylor's agent should and probably will explain that to him. The Skins drafted Taylor several years ago. Now, years later, a high draft pick should and will get a larger rookie contract. In other words, the value of those picks increases every year.

I strongly believe they will do everything in their power to re-sign both Taylor and ey. Taylor is in his contract year and I'm sure he knows that he will get paid, regardless of what Landry gets.

I don't see Landry as being the type to hold out. I think he is anxious to get going and get in camp. He also knows that he has the talent to earn big bucks in this league when his time is due.

LaRon's agent is Joel Segal. He also represents Jason Campbell, Reggie Bush and others. He is a good agent so we should see Landry in camp on time.

I hope the way this team does business with its our own players has changed.. because with alot of players I was sure we were going to resign them because they were "core" redskins.. and I know this has been discussed before.. but we were working to resign Pierce and we didnt think he wsd worth what he wanted.. same with Smoot..Clarke and Doc( but that I understand he is not worth 49 million im sorry) so I'm hoping and praying that we realize just how important ey and Taylor are to the team and us fans..Ive been sad to see other players go but I cant ever imagine one of them in another uniform

I think it would be very wise to offer Sean Taylor a new contract at the same time a deal is offered to Landry. Taylor should get a little more, having a few years of NFL experience already.

Mursilis wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

frankcal20 wrote:I don't want them to get pushed around by a player but someone of Taylor's ability, you have to resign him to a longer deal.

I understand what you're saying but... I don't even feel like going there this morning. This team needs to do its best to resign its own players. If we can "overspend" on trash why not on our own players?

We also need to start winning. Good teams, teams which can assure players a decent shot at a ring, have to pay less, because players generally prefer to win. Look at how New England has gotten players at less than full market value because guys know their chances of getting to the playoffs and maybe Super Bowl are better there. I know even winning teams can lose players - Indy seems to bleed talent, especially on defense, on a regular basis - but when it comes to choosing between a consistent winner or a consistent loser, most players want to go with a winner.

Don't forget Betts could have gone elswhere and recived a pretty nice deal. He took less $$ to stay in D.C. The tide of change is here, I hope ST realizes that he may not get the absolute top dollar, at the same time DJV (Danny, Joe, Vinny) better not try to short him too much either. Give the man a raise he is the electricity that sparks the entire defense.

Why would Sean Taylor be unhappy. You say that he already is. Is he calling you late at night to complain? Or are you just assuming he is without fact. Cause I haven't read anywhere about ST being unhappy with his current pay. And there really is no need to reup his contract cause i believe he has at least two maybe three years left. Most contract extensions don't happen until 1 year is left unless a team is trying to get more cap space.

If we really need to focus on someone it should be Chris ey

CcHhDd wrote: Cause I haven't read anywhere about ST being unhappy with his current pay.

Then maybe you need to read more...

oh SNAP!

We'll re-sign Taylor and he'll be cool with Laron...TRUST ME...those boys are going to be each others best friends on Sunday.

Everyone come to the Skins for money....our players know they can get paid here...Its just getting us back to the Super Bowl that will keep our guys. And we ARE heading in that direction!

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

CcHhDd wrote: Cause I haven't read anywhere about ST being unhappy with his current pay.

Then maybe you need to read more...

Do you have a link, because I missed that too

Sean was upset with his contract when he first signed it, before it was broken down to him and he realized his contract was worth up to $40M with incentives. I recall Gibbs saying that Sean was under contract and he expected him to honor it, or something along those lines. He's hit enough of those incentives already to void the 2011 portion of the deal, and was told they would look at re-working it down the road.

Taylor then had a run in with a guy in Va. that had a badge (and a breathalyzer) only to be followed by a ATV issue in Dade County. Haven't heard a word about him being unhappy about his contract since then. Even then the only "reported" was that Sean was "hoping" for a new deal.

A guy got a $30M deal last year but Taylor didn't say a word about it.
Sean signed a 7 year $18M deal that could jump to $40M+ when signed back in 2004. That was good money for the slot he was drafted in. He understands what's going on and already knows that Landry draft slot will pay more than what his paid 3 years prior.

Might be good a good idea to extend him now before he goes out lined up next to Landry and have his asking price skyrocket

1niksder wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

CcHhDd wrote: Cause I haven't read anywhere about ST being unhappy with his current pay.

Then maybe you need to read more...

Do you have a link, because I missed that too

Me too. How did this turn into a drama overnight once people realized that Landry needed to sign a contract?

Irn-Bru wrote:

1niksder wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

CcHhDd wrote: Cause I haven't read anywhere about ST being unhappy with his current pay.

Then maybe you need to read more...

Do you have a link, because I missed that too

Me too. How did this turn into a drama overnight once people realized that Landry needed to sign a contract?

You can find articles as early as 2005 where he complains (through his agent) about his contract.

Rosenhaus contends that Taylor's absence was unrelated to desires for a new contract. Taylor, drafted fifth overall in 2004, signed a seven-year contract that could be worth $40 million but quickly balked about the deal's structure.

The contract, negotiated by previous agents Jeff Moorad (now one of the Arizona Diamondbacks' general partners) and Gene Mato, included more than $13 million in bonuses. But it contained $22 million in escalators tied to Taylor making the Pro Bowl in each of his first five seasons. Taylor didn't make the Pro Bowl as a rookie.

"I had discussions with the Redskins immediately before the offseason about augmenting Sean's deal, and the Redskins were willing to make some concessions," Rosenhaus said. "So we have an issue with the contract. Sean's deal is very substandard."

Up to ones written April 29th of this year for instance, here

Should Landry land a contract bigger than the one that Taylor signed in 2004 -- which is highly probable -- that could become an issue. (Taylor has two years left on his deal, and began expressing dissatisfaction with that rookie contract shortly after signing it.)

Both of those articles reference the same event, the second article is just referencing the first. Are there any other indications that Taylor was unhappy, or was it that one statement by Rosenhaus that's given him this reputation?

Irn-Bru wrote:Both of those articles reference the same event, the second article is just referencing the first. Are there any other indications that Taylor was unhappy, or was it that one statement by Rosenhaus that's given him this reputation?

Maybe I'm crazy but wasn't there an issue where Taylor was upset with his contract when he was first signed? I thought it had something to down with Kellen Winslow 2....

edit* Redskin1 mentioned it in his post on the previous page.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:Both of those articles reference the same event, the second article is just referencing the first. Are there any other indications that Taylor was unhappy, or was it that one statement by Rosenhaus that's given him this reputation?

Maybe I'm crazy but wasn't there an issue where Taylor was upset with his contract when he was first signed? I thought it had something to down with Kellen Winslow 2....

edit* Redskin1 mentioned it in his post on the previous page.

Right, but 1nik also pointed out that complaint was addressed and is dated ... I've seen nothing to indicate Taylor is upset with his deal.

Fios wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:Both of those articles reference the same event, the second article is just referencing the first. Are there any other indications that Taylor was unhappy, or was it that one statement by Rosenhaus that's given him this reputation?

Maybe I'm crazy but wasn't there an issue where Taylor was upset with his contract when he was first signed? I thought it had something to down with Kellen Winslow 2....

edit* Redskin1 mentioned it in his post on the previous page.

Right, but 1nik also pointed out that complaint was addressed and is dated ... I've seen nothing to indicate Taylor is upset with his deal.

Yeah, nothing has been said since and I hope that he is happy with his contract. I just want him back as a Redskin and for nothing to complicate his resigning.