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I seriously think Snyder needs to sell this organization. I think he is the worst owner in the history of sports. Even worse than the owners of the Clippers and the Royals, because at least Clippers and Royals fans never have false hope.

First there is the Pierce situation, where they do not much to sign him and do absolutely nothing to replace him. They try and move a former college safety who weighs 230 into the middle behind two injury prone defensive tackles.

Then there is last year, where they don't sign an up and coming safety that would be cheap, but rather sign Adam Archuleta, who has never lived up to his hype, to a ridiculous contract. Then to top it off, they give Antwaan Randle El franchise player money to basically be a special teamer. He never has been a go to receiver. I won't criticize the Lloyd deal because i thought that was a good move, even though it hasn't worked out that way.

Now,coming off a season where they set records for lack of turnovers and sacks, they have two capable weakside LB's who know they will have to work their butts off to beat out the other one for the starting spot. But they still try and ridiculously reduce their position of draft power, where there are two or three premiere DE's who will be available (not to mention the possibility of a trade down to acquire major picks), to sign Lance Briggs, who has been glamourized as a Chicago Bear where everyone on the defense is good, and who will want a RIDICULOUS contract.

I don't know about everyone else but my patience is wearing thin.

Thing is, he's a good owner...but a horrible general manager, and he's so involved that he essentially has worn that hat...and he has no business wearing it.

If I had to choose between an owner like Snyder, who is a fan of the team and willing to spend a lot of money to get players he wants (even though that is a mistake now and then) and an owner who is tight with his money and not willing to spend any to improve the team, I'll take Snyder every single day of the week!

brad7686 wrote:I seriously think Snyder needs to sell this organization. I think he is the worst owner in the history of sports. Even worse than the owners of the Clippers and the Royals, because at least Clippers and Royals fans never have false hope.

First there is the Pierce situation, where they do not much to sign him and do absolutely nothing to replace him. They try and move a former college safety who weighs 230 into the middle behind two injury prone defensive tackles.

Then there is last year, where they don't sign an up and coming safety that would be cheap, but rather sign Adam Archuleta, who has never lived up to his hype, to a ridiculous contract. Then to top it off, they give Antwaan Randle El franchise player money to basically be a special teamer. He never has been a go to receiver. I won't criticize the Lloyd deal because i thought that was a good move, even though it hasn't worked out that way.

Now,coming off a season where they set records for lack of turnovers and sacks, they have two capable weakside LB's who know they will have to work their butts off to beat out the other one for the starting spot. But they still try and ridiculously reduce their position of draft power, where there are two or three premiere DE's who will be available (not to mention the possibility of a trade down to acquire major picks), to sign Lance Briggs, who has been glamourized as a Chicago Bear where everyone on the defense is good, and who will want a RIDICULOUS contract.

I don't know about everyone else but my patience is wearing thin.

You left out the worst move he's made since his ownership started...Champ Bailey.


I'm tired of giving him a pass because he spends money. Here is the problem with DS...He only spends money to make money.

He wants to make money first and win second!!

The Hogster wrote:Thing is, he's a good owner...but a horrible general manager, and he's so involved that he essentially has worn that hat...and he has no business wearing it.

Great Point - Here we have a guy who is willing to sell his own soul and his kids soul for a championship but he just doesnt make the right moves.
He should take a page from the Big Jack - Jack Kent Cooke had an eye for getting the right man for the management job - he let them do their thing, stepped in when he had to and created the environment for winning.
Snyder has made bonehead moves but he needs to get rid of the Yes men and let the football people do their jobs.

brad7686 wrote:I seriously think Snyder needs to sell this organization. I think he is the worst owner in the history of sports. Even worse than the owners of the Clippers and the Royals, because at least Clippers and Royals fans never have false hope.

First there is the Pierce situation, where they do not much to sign him and do absolutely nothing to replace him. They try and move a former college safety who weighs 230 into the middle behind two injury prone defensive tackles.

Then there is last year, where they don't sign an up and coming safety that would be cheap, but rather sign Adam Archuleta, who has never lived up to his hype, to a ridiculous contract. Then to top it off, they give Antwaan Randle El franchise player money to basically be a special teamer. He never has been a go to receiver. I won't criticize the Lloyd deal because i thought that was a good move, even though it hasn't worked out that way.

Now,coming off a season where they set records for lack of turnovers and sacks, they have two capable weakside LB's who know they will have to work their butts off to beat out the other one for the starting spot. But they still try and ridiculously reduce their position of draft power, where there are two or three premiere DE's who will be available (not to mention the possibility of a trade down to acquire major picks), to sign Lance Briggs, who has been glamourized as a Chicago Bear where everyone on the defense is good, and who will want a RIDICULOUS contract.

I don't know about everyone else but my patience is wearing thin.

Here is the problem.....

as i see it.



It has nothing to do with Briggs as a player, as a human being, whether he is too expensive, whether his expected bonus (my guess is $15 million up front) would disrupt team chemistry, etc.



The sole issue and problem from my perspective is the team's inability to effectively gauge the marketplace.



let me explain.



Brunell - we all know he was going to be released. So why trade a 3rd round draft pick for him? 3rd round draft picks are very valuable commodities.



Portis/Bailey - Alleged shut down corners are a rare commodity. Bailey has had at least 2 pro bowl seasons in Denver. Clinton portis is a superb back, but it is easier to find an rb of his caliber than it is to find a db of Champ's calibre. Add to the fact that CP was mroe disgruntled than Bailey at the time, and you have to really ask yourself what Gibbs and company were smoking when they threw in that 2d round draft pick.



That 2d round draft pick as used on tatum Bell, and we have all seen him run for 80 yard TD romps. Interestingly, and ironically, he was used by the Broncos to get Dre Bly.



So, we gave up Champ bailey AND Dre Bly to get Clinton portis, an undersized back, clearly not in the Gibbs mold, a guy who really cannot be asked to carry the ball over the course of a season MORE than 20 times per game.



Again, what are these guys smoking?



The rest of the league gets it. The rest of the league KNOWS that we were going to cut Archuletta. Gibbs lying and saying he figured prominenlty in our plans meant nothing when the DC benched him for the last 8 regular season games.



So they wai us out, since we have no leverage.



In this case it is Da Bears who have no leverage. Rosenhaus has already said that Briggs will not play for the Bears, that he will sit out ten games, that he will come back for the last 6 games, and that he will bolt as soon as the season is over.



So, tell me, what leverage do the Bears have?



remember when the compensation for franchise tagged players was 2 first round draft picks? Well, when was the last time anyone actually got that compensation? The MOST you can reasonably expect to get these days is a 2d rounder and a 3rd rounder, in succeeding years.



Why, in the name of any deity you believe in, would Gibbs and compnay even consider giving up the 6th pick for Briggs even if they get the 31st pick in exchange? ESPECIALLY after trading THREE DRAFT PICKS to get McIntosh.



Then we waste ANOTHER 3rd round pick on el fatty himself, TJ Duckett, a guy who I thought COULD have helped the team, but another player who the coach elected to not play.



This is why i laugh at all of you who suggest we trade down and acquire additional draft picks. To what end? Honestly. As long as the three stooges are in power (Snyder, Cerrato, and Gibbs), it wont matter what draft picks we have b/c these morons trade them away like they mean nothing.



You all can stop worrying about who we should pick and why, about which player would better fit our needs, about how many draft picks we can finnagle for that 6th pick. The draft is a joke with these clowns. All Snyder truly cares about is the marketability of his players.



Think about Briggs current situation. He is GUARANTEED $7.2 million for this season. Normally, salaries are not guaranteed, but when you are franchised you must be paid that amount. So its almost like a signing bonus though it is sppread out over the whole year.



$7.2 million, and he is willing to part company with that?



In exchange for what? A bonus from the Redskins, a team he has NEVER SUITED UP FOR, a team he has NEVER BLED OR SWEATED FOR, in the area of $12-15 million is my guess.



There are way too many articles out there that discuss this topic for it to be bs. Its not just Rosenhaus. The Bears dude Angelo said he was UNPREPARED for the discussion as the offer from the Redskins came out of the blue so they would go back and consider it.



WHY? WHY MAKE THIS OFFER NOW? WHEN IT WILL STILL BE THERE ON DRAFT DAY? WHY NOT WAIT IT OUT AND SEE WHAT MONSTROSITY OF AN OFFER IS MADE FOR THE 6TH PICK?



I AM SORRY MY FELLOW FANS. I BLEED BURGUNDY AND GOLD LIKE THE REST OF YOU, AND NO ONE HERE HAS DEFENDED JOE GIBBS WITH MORE PASSION AND ZEALOUSNESS THAN I , BUT HIS DAYS ARE LONG GONE, AND EVERY DAY HE EVEN CONTEMPLATES DEALS LIKE THIS HE JUST EMBARRASSES HIMSELF FURTHER AND FURTHER. NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE SAYING THIS, BUT ITS TIME FOR GIBBS TO GO. IF HE CANNOT AND WILL NOT STAND UP TO SNYDER, AND ALL SIGNS PROVE HE CANNOT AND WILL NOT, HE IS DOING A TREMENDOUS DISSERVCIE TO THE FANS AND THE FRANCHISE.

uhhhhhh. I Like Gibbs. I think he is a good coach. Players will play harder for him than a lot of coaches. And yes, his old school schem didn't work when he came back, but he is changing. You get another coach, you may fix some issues, but you create other problems.

I agree we need some changes in the front office, GM or something. But just changing the coach how would that help that side of it. Think about it, Gibbs is very conservative. Now imagin we change coachs to some dude who is not so. Him paired with Dan, We would have even more stupid trades.

Gibbs, Saunders & Williams.

Please tell me... you know some better ones who are available?

Lets Go and get Norv Turner.

sonofyens, I think it's a stretch to say the rest of the league gets it and we don't. There are many treams who have historical records much more pathetic than the recent history of the Redskins. Let's face it. The NFL is a very dynamic league with an extremely thin margin between winning and losing. When teams rise to the top and begin winning everyone else tries to copy what they are doing. The best franchises in such an environment are those that are on the leading edge of change and not those that follow along. In my opinion, our owner and front office are trying to lead, we've just made a few bad calls (and some good ones, too). The grass is not always greener on the other side.

brad7686 wrote:I seriously think Snyder needs to sell this organization. I think he is the worst owner in the history of sports. Even worse than the owners of the Clippers and the Royals, because at least Clippers and Royals fans never have false hope.

First there is the Pierce situation, where they do not much to sign him and do absolutely nothing to replace him. They try and move a former college safety who weighs 230 into the middle behind two injury prone defensive tackles.

Then there is last year, where they don't sign an up and coming safety that would be cheap, but rather sign Adam Archuleta, who has never lived up to his hype, to a ridiculous contract. Then to top it off, they give Antwaan Randle El franchise player money to basically be a special teamer. He never has been a go to receiver. I won't criticize the Lloyd deal because i thought that was a good move, even though it hasn't worked out that way.

Now,coming off a season where they set records for lack of turnovers and sacks, they have two capable weakside LB's who know they will have to work their butts off to beat out the other one for the starting spot. But they still try and ridiculously reduce their position of draft power, where there are two or three premiere DE's who will be available (not to mention the possibility of a trade down to acquire major picks), to sign Lance Briggs, who has been glamourized as a Chicago Bear where everyone on the defense is good, and who will want a RIDICULOUS contract.

I don't know about everyone else but my patience is wearing thin.

Located in Southern California, I just want to correct your statement here. The Clippers now spend money and lots of it.

As for our beloved Redskins franchise, I agree with some of you that Dan Snyder runs this team like one of his businesses. I think that if we had a true GM (I have no idea who to hire) that our franchise would change in positive ways. I'm holding out hope that we just stay mum until the draft then trade down.

Every team in the NFL makes a judgment call on players in the draft, and all have made bad calls at one time or another. Our owner has taken the position that it is better to bring in proven talent then take a chance with a young unproven draft pick. The problem is we have trouble judging proven talent and the value of that talent.

First - The reason that we are trying to make a move for Lance Briggs is we need better players, last year our defense was average at best, we need improvements in nearly every area. We could not defend the pass or the run, we gave up big play after big play nearly every game. Second - I have not heard any of the professional scouts come to a consensus that there is one defensive tackle or end that is above everyone else, there seems to be several at each position that are good but not great. When Julius Peppers came out everyone agreed that he was going to the next dominate DE, that is not being said about any of the players in this upcoming draft. Also over the last several years there has been a high number of Defensive Ends picked high in the draft that have failed to produce ( See the list below for all the DEs picked in the first round since 1995). So we trade this pick and get a young starting pro bowl player and we still have a chance at picking a solid starter with the 31st pick. I think that this team with all its needs is better off getting a guaranteed pro bowl player plus picking up another player with the 31st pick that may or may not be able to play.


1995
6 Kevin Carter DE Florida
7 Mike Mamula DE Boston College 1
11 Derrick Alexander DE Florida State
16 Hugh Douglas DE Central State, Ohio

1996
3 Simeon Rice DE Illinois
5 Cedric Jones DE Oklahoma
12 Regan Upshaw DE California
16 Duane Clemons DE California
22 Marcus Jones DE North Carolina

1997
14 Reinard Wilson DE Florida State
17 Kenard Lang DE Miami
18 Kenny Holmes DE Miami
21 Renaldo Wynn DE Notre Dame
25 Jon Harris DE Virginia
28 Trevor Pryce DE Clemson

1998
3 Andre Wadsworth DE Florida State
6 Grant Wistrom DE Nebraska
14 Jason Peter DE Nebraska

1999
16 Jevon Kearse DE Florida
20 Ebenezer Ekuban DE North Carolina
22 Lamar King DE Saginaw Valley State
30 Patrick Kerney DE Virginia

2000
1 Courtney Brown DE Penn State
12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
13 John Abraham DE South Carolina
26 Erik Flowers DE Arizona State

2001
4 Justin Smith DE Missouri
6 Richard Seymour DE Georgia
7 Andre Carter DE California
10 Jamal Reynolds DE Florida State

2002
2 Julius Peppers DE North Carolina
11 Dwight Freeney DE Syracuse
22 Bryan Thomas DE Ala.-Birmingham
25 Charles Grant DE Georgia

2003
10 Terrell Suggs DE Arizona State
13 Ty Warren DE Texas A&M
14 Michael Haynes DE Penn State
15 Jerome McDougle DE Miami
32 Tyler Brayton DE Colorado

BernieSki wrote:Second - I have not heard any of the professional scouts come to a consensus that there is one defensive tackle or end that is above everyone else, there seems to be several at each position that are good but not great.

That's a valid point. And some feel the 6th pick is a little high to select one of those guys.

SkinsFreak wrote:

BernieSki wrote:Second - I have not heard any of the professional scouts come to a consensus that there is one defensive tackle or end that is above everyone else, there seems to be several at each position that are good but not great.

That's a valid point. And some feel the 6th pick is a little high to select one of those guys.

Agreed, clearly there is no consensus lineman, you hear various ones rise and drop. Too bad the other teams know that too. The best chance to trade will probably be draft day if someone drops.

We're at 6 and I see 5 guys other teams MAY be willing trade up to get, Russell, Thomas, Brady, Johnson and Peterson. If those 5 are the 5 gone before we pick we may be left with having to just pick unless someone is secretly in love with one of the lineman.

Atleast hes better than what Jack Kent Cooke's son would have been.

BernieSki wrote:Every team in the NFL makes a judgment call on players in the draft, and all have made bad calls at one time or another. Our owner has taken the position that it is better to bring in proven talent then take a chance with a young unproven draft pick. The problem is we have trouble judging proven talent and the value of that talent.

First - The reason that we are trying to make a move for Lance Briggs is we need better players, last year our defense was average at best, we need improvements in nearly every area. We could not defend the pass or the run, we gave up big play after big play nearly every game. Second - I have not heard any of the professional scouts come to a consensus that there is one defensive tackle or end that is above everyone else, there seems to be several at each position that are good but not great. When Julius Peppers came out everyone agreed that he was going to the next dominate DE, that is not being said about any of the players in this upcoming draft. Also over the last several years there has been a high number of Defensive Ends picked high in the draft that have failed to produce ( See the list below for all the DEs picked in the first round since 1995). So we trade this pick and get a young starting pro bowl player and we still have a chance at picking a solid starter with the 31st pick. I think that this team with all its needs is better off getting a guaranteed pro bowl player plus picking up another player with the 31st pick that may or may not be able to play.


1995
6 Kevin Carter DE Florida
7 Mike Mamula DE Boston College 1
11 Derrick Alexander DE Florida State
16 Hugh Douglas DE Central State, Ohio

1996
3 Simeon Rice DE Illinois
5 Cedric Jones DE Oklahoma
12 Regan Upshaw DE California
16 Duane Clemons DE California
22 Marcus Jones DE North Carolina

1997
14 Reinard Wilson DE Florida State
17 Kenard Lang DE Miami
18 Kenny Holmes DE Miami
21 Renaldo Wynn DE Notre Dame
25 Jon Harris DE Virginia
28 Trevor Pryce DE Clemson

1998
3 Andre Wadsworth DE Florida State
6 Grant Wistrom DE Nebraska
14 Jason Peter DE Nebraska

1999
16 Jevon Kearse DE Florida
20 Ebenezer Ekuban DE North Carolina
22 Lamar King DE Saginaw Valley State
30 Patrick Kerney DE Virginia

2000
1 Courtney Brown DE Penn State
12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee
13 John Abraham DE South Carolina
26 Erik Flowers DE Arizona State

2001
4 Justin Smith DE Missouri
6 Richard Seymour DE Georgia
7 Andre Carter DE California
10 Jamal Reynolds DE Florida State

2002
2 Julius Peppers DE North Carolina
11 Dwight Freeney DE Syracuse
22 Bryan Thomas DE Ala.-Birmingham
25 Charles Grant DE Georgia

2003
10 Terrell Suggs DE Arizona State
13 Ty Warren DE Texas A&M
14 Michael Haynes DE Penn State
15 Jerome McDougle DE Miami
32 Tyler Brayton DE Colorado

I don't know what this list is supposed to prove. 3/4 of these guys have been productive starters, and most of the ones who were the first selected are or have been dominant. Wadsworth and Brown are injury prone and otherwise would have been good. So basically whoever Reinard Wilson is, he is the only real bust of the first defensive ends selected in the draft in these years.

ArizonaHOG wrote:sonofyens, I think it's a stretch to say the rest of the league gets it and we don't. There are many treams who have historical records much more pathetic than the recent history of the Redskins. Let's face it. The NFL is a very dynamic league with an extremely thin margin between winning and losing. When teams rise to the top and begin winning everyone else tries to copy what they are doing. The best franchises in such an environment are those that are on the leading edge of change and not those that follow along. In my opinion, our owner and front office are trying to lead, we've just made a few bad calls (and some good ones, too). The grass is not always greener on the other side.

I think you all are missing the point of my post.
Its not about wins and losses, or even coaching abilities.
Go back and reread it.
Its about the way they routinely screw up in regard to draft picks.
They trade them away for no reason (BRunell, Portis deals).
They trade them for players who suck (Duckett).
They trade them for players we dont seem to get any production out of(Lloyd).
And they trade 3 of them to go get a LB that is so valuable he never got to play and who si now being replaced by Briggs it seems (McIntosh).

Thats since Gibbs came back and was anonited as head of football operations.

I agree he has made some good moves in regard to player acquisitions, and I love him as a coach. I never wanted Al saunders to come in.

But he is horrible as a GM and his track record in regard to draft picks verifies that position.

DS makes the decisions because, if/when the time comes that the Redskins do succeed, he wants to be the one who steps to the fore and says "See? I DID IT." It's not good enough to just win. They have to win by his hand.

DEHog wrote:

brad7686 wrote:I seriously think Snyder needs to sell this organization. I think he is the worst owner in the history of sports. Even worse than the owners of the Clippers and the Royals, because at least Clippers and Royals fans never have false hope.

First there is the Pierce situation, where they do not much to sign him and do absolutely nothing to replace him. They try and move a former college safety who weighs 230 into the middle behind two injury prone defensive tackles.

Then there is last year, where they don't sign an up and coming safety that would be cheap, but rather sign Adam Archuleta, who has never lived up to his hype, to a ridiculous contract. Then to top it off, they give Antwaan Randle El franchise player money to basically be a special teamer. He never has been a go to receiver. I won't criticize the Lloyd deal because i thought that was a good move, even though it hasn't worked out that way.

Now,coming off a season where they set records for lack of turnovers and sacks, they have two capable weakside LB's who know they will have to work their butts off to beat out the other one for the starting spot. But they still try and ridiculously reduce their position of draft power, where there are two or three premiere DE's who will be available (not to mention the possibility of a trade down to acquire major picks), to sign Lance Briggs, who has been glamourized as a Chicago Bear where everyone on the defense is good, and who will want a RIDICULOUS contract.

I don't know about everyone else but my patience is wearing thin.

You left out the worst move he's made since his ownership started...Champ Bailey.


I'm tired of giving him a pass because he spends money. Here is the problem with DS...He only spends money to make money.

He wants to make money first and win second!!

Finally someone that understands Snyder.

I think that part of the problems we had on defense last year was due in part to coaching and the way they were so nit-picking about their "scheme", making guys think to much instead of playing.

This coaching staff, IMO, is under the "hot lamp" this year. GW can draw up all of the "schemes" he wants on paper but if he and his cronies can't coach it, it means 30th in defense in the NFL, period.

You guys need to remember the rumblings that came out of Redskins Park from the so-called "un-named" source. Now that AA is where he wants to be, watch it come out that he was the "un-named" source. Now those may poo-poo it by saying he was just disgruntled or whatever but let's be real, stories like these just don't pop out thin air.

We have talent on both offense and defense. Yes, we have some deficiencies on the DLine and alot of in-experience in the Secondary but we do have talent. It's up to the coaches to maximize it. That's what they get paid for.

My eye this year will be on Al Saunders, GW, and Joe Gibbs and how they manage this team. If GW is supposed to be this great defensive coach, let's see it. If Saunders is supposed to be this great offensive guru, let's see it. Gibbs needs to get that Offensive set in one direction and not this 70 yards Al and 30 yards him. If he wants Saunders to be this genius then let him do it and help Saunders get this offensive unit to by into what he is doing. Saunders needs to take it upon himself to heal the wound between him and Portis and get Clinton on-board. Once he does that and he can get Clinton to sing his song, the rest of the offense will sure to follow. The arrogance needs to stop and the coaching needs to start. If we fail this coming season, I will place all of the blame on the coaching staff.

Well, just look at this:

Joe Gibbs 1st year back: We sign tons of high profile FA's (Griffin, Washington, count CP, Springs, Brunell...)
And we go like 6-10

Joe Gibbs 2nd year back: We sign just about nobody. (Casey Rabach, Patten, Stoutmire)
Guess what, we make the playoffs through stability with the offensive/defensive playbook and team chemistry.

Joe Gibbs 3rd year back: Again, we sign ton over big name FA's (A.R.E, Arch, B-Lloyd, Carter)
Oh no, we go 5-11 with a bunch of new players and a new un-neccessary 700 page playbook.

So what I'm trying to say is, the years where we brought in a buch of new talent and had to learn all new schemes, we sucked.

But the year where we brought in only role players and let the team chemistry build, we made the playoffs.

Hmm...

air_hog wrote:Well, just look at this:

Let's look at it like that

air_hog wrote:Joe Gibbs 1st year back: We sign tons of high profile FA's (Griffin, Washington, count CP, Springs, Brunell...)
And we go like 6-10

Looked over some things and identified some areas of need... (post Spurrier meant LOTS of areas of needs) and they lost key players that year

air_hog wrote:Joe Gibbs 2nd year back: We sign just about nobody. (Casey Rabach, Patten, Stoutmire)
Guess what, we make the playoffs through stability with the offensive/defensive playbook and team chemistry.

Less holes more aware of what the players on the roster can and can't do, still lost players that should have/could have been retained

air_hog wrote:Joe Gibbs 3rd year back: Again, we sign ton over big name FA's (A.R.E, Arch, B-Lloyd, Carter)
Oh no, we go 5-11 with a bunch of new players and a new un-neccessary 700 page playbook.

New playbook warranted new personnel (particularly at wideout), d-Line has been a need for almost a decade so you can't blame them there. Carter came on late in the year and should be excluded (considering the Jonnie come lately performance still put him up top with the sack leaders). ARE did pretty much what he was paid to do, and Llody lost his head (helmet) one game. Last years boils downs to no one getting it done and the AA deal. Thanks to the NFC "post season" champs in a year the only Arch from the Lou i'll know of will be a landmark and I will have forgotten it ever happen (like TAFKAPT never happened )

air_hog wrote:So what I'm trying to say is, the years where we brought in a buch of new talent and had to learn all new schemes, we sucked.

But the year where we brought in only role players and let the team chemistry build, we made the playoffs.

Hmm...

Yeah seem like someone is saying this every other year

I was just trying to say, you know look at what happened the year where we didn't have a typical "Redskins" offseason... we made the playoffs.

For once their was stability in the organization and players built some much needed team chemistry and we played great as a team.

And now look at the '07 offseason. All we've done so far is pick up a standard MLB who knows the system, as well as two guys in the secondary who want to be here and again, know the system.

I like the stability the team has shown this offseason (so far... ) and hopefully we keep it like that, as well as keeping the 6th overall pick where we can pick up a massive DT to creat havoc in the trenches.

That would be my dream offseason.

air_hog wrote:I like the stability the team has shown this offseason (so far... ) and hopefully we keep it like that, as well as keeping the 6th overall pick where we can pick up a massive DT to creat havoc in the trenches.

I'm with you on most of this. But I want them to trade down for more picks. The Money a #6 pick will cost down the line could go toCooley and ST

They should create a new game show: Are you more football savvy than anyone in the Redskins FO? I'm thinking that 90% of the contestants would be.