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on best damn sports show yesterday, drew rosenhaus said there is a 70 percent chance lance briggs leaves chicago, he also said the two teams that are trying to get him are the forty niners and the redskins, probably the usual agent B.S. but what do you guys think.

gibbs#1 wrote:on best damn sports show yesterday, drew rosenhaus said there is a 70 percent chance lance briggs leaves chicago, he also said the two teams that are trying to get him are the forty niners and the redskins, probably the usual agent B.S. but what do you guys think.

No chance whatsoever he ends up in Washington, any team stupid enough to overpay him because Rosenhaus is floating an obvious lie deserves whatever contract they get stuck with

he can say that all he wants but briggs has the franchise tag on him theres no way we could get him.. we dont have the proper compensation and while hes a good player and all thats the last thing we need.. another hott shot player coming in and messing with team chemistry.. i hope we just stand pat and add a couple more players from the draft and leave it at that

maybe, but we just worked out a deal with chicago for arch maybe we have a good enough relationship with chicago to get it done

gibbs#1 wrote:maybe, but we just worked out a deal with chicago for arch maybe we have a good enough relationship with chicago to get it done

Let me put this another way: this will not happen, I promise you. The Redskins have neither the cap space nor the draft picks. The Bears would need two first round draft picks as compensation, the Redskins have one, this rumor was dead before it was uttered.

I think if it were going to happen, it would have happened around the Arch deal. Perhaps at some point during the negotiations the Bears offered Briggs as part of a deal.

He's a week side linebacker i don't think theve given up on Macintosh just yet.

gibbs#1 wrote:on best damn sports show yesterday, drew rosenhaus said there is a 70 percent chance lance briggs leaves chicago, he also said the two teams that are trying to get him are the forty niners and the redskins, probably the usual agent B.S. but what do you guys think.

50 bucks says that Rosenhaus said this just so the teams that wanted him would all of a sudden be scrambling around digging up more money to outbid The Danny.

Personally, I think whenever a agent or a reporter says something like that he should have to pay the Redskins fans 5% of the contract value for the "mental anguish" that they are putting us through!

The Redskins were involved in a rumor to be interested in signing a big name player?

Wow, that's really unusual. It must be true

I think sports reporters talking about rumors have macros to put the Redskins in any list of team names.

Fios wrote:

gibbs#1 wrote:maybe, but we just worked out a deal with chicago for arch maybe we have a good enough relationship with chicago to get it done

Let me put this another way: this will not happen, I promise you. The Redskins have neither the cap space nor the draft picks. The Bears would need two first round draft picks as compensation, the Redskins have one, this rumor was dead before it was uttered.

Could the Patriots with their two first rounders?

If so, then so can the Skins, because the #6 pick is "worth more" than the two first rounders that the Pats have. According to the dreaded draft chart.

I hope they are not even considering it, fo rmost of the same reasons everyone else gave.

You don't have to have two first rounders if the Bears agree to different compensation. For example, the #6 pick would be very persuasive. Let's hope this doesn't happen but the required two first rounders will not prevent it from happening.

The pats have 2 picks we have 1 BUT we could give them our #6 for their 2 picks PLUS whatever to make the deal "add up" but we have just 1 little question - WHY?

I think that most of us would agree that our group has "behaved" fairly well so far and not done the stupid things that we are so used to seeing - I do not believe we are interested in Briggs for any reason - he does not fit into our plans and I am sure we are not even close to doing something as stupid as this.

No this is just Rosenhaus stirring the pot. He has to get pressure on the Bears to up their offer. So he's just trying to create a story intersting enough for the media to run with. He and Danny are friends, so he drops a name to get the ball rolling. There's no chance the Skins are involved.

I heard that Briggs is thinking of sitting out the season - that would mean he is going to make $700,000.00 and give up the chance to make $7,000,000.00 - if this guy were on our team and he said that, if I could, I would have him committed - he's not just an idiot, this guy has no loyalty and deserves nothing - I think guys like this make decent players look bad.

Anyone who would want someone who is that motivated on their team doesn't know anything about the "team" concept.

Yeah, I've lost a lot of respect for Briggs lately. He was bumping his gums last week about how the Bears have no intention of giving him a multiyear contract and paying him at value and blah blah blah. This is the same Briggs who turned down a $35m contract extension in mid-season. He's a really good LB and, if he leaves the Bears, then I would have loved him to be a Redskin. That was until he opened his mouth. Just another "me" player and the Skinis could do without that.

Forget Briggs.

Ponder this.

If Lavar Arrington becomes healthy.

1. He is more talented than most any other Linebacker in the league.
hot shot yes. Freelancer yes.
2. He still is a playmaker and you have to account for where he is on the field.
3. He is coming off an injury and shouldnt command a high price tag.
4. If it works out we would then have a pro bowler back at the weak side.
5. Bringing him in would definatley help support the run D. Essentially he is like having a good Dlineman.

How does this relate to Lance Briggs?

Well if we are even considering bringing Briggs in for the Boatload that he is commanding coming off a SuperBowl appearance.

Then why not consider bringing back Lavar under a conditional contract with incentives that state that he has to play at least 70 percent of the season?

Lavar is far more talented than Briggs. Twice the athlete and when healthy is easily in the top 3 backers in the league.

Briggs Booooo! Bring back Lavar!

HEROHAMO wrote:Forget Briggs.

Why? He's the hottest thing NOT on the market

HEROHAMO wrote:Ponder this.

.... OK

HEROHAMO wrote:If Lavar Arrington becomes healthy.

Big IF but OK

HEROHAMO wrote:1. He is more talented than most any other Linebacker in the league.
hot shot yes. Freelancer yes.

Most talented 3 and a half years ago yes, hot shot yes, Freelancer yes...
more talented in the last 3 years than most linebackers on the NFL practice squads yes - active players depends on who you talked to (some active players actually played ), hot shot - one year on the 4 letter network next year not so much. Freelancer you bet

HEROHAMO wrote:2. He still is a playmaker and you have to account for where he is on the field.

When was the last time he played, did he make a play in tha game?

HEROHAMO wrote:3. He is coming off an injury and shouldnt command a high price tag.

he's coming off a injury after coming off injury... he'll be cheap where ever he goes, might be a steel

HEROHAMO wrote:4. If it works out we would then have a pro bowler back at the weak side.

Not going to happen...(it's the beltway - bridges don't mend that quickly, money doesn't (but really does) matter.

HEROHAMO wrote:5. Bringing him in would definatley help support the run D. Essentially he is like having a good Dlineman.

See #4

HEROHAMO wrote:How does this relate to Lance Briggs?

Well if we are even considering bringing Briggs in for the Boatload that he is commanding coming off a SuperBowl appearance.

Then why not consider bringing back Lavar under a conditional contract with incentives that state that he has to play at least 70 percent of the season?

Cap space is the short answer, they can look at anyone that has ever played in the NFL and come out better than they would with Lavar. "the Danny"'s peeps don't trust lavar's peeps to pick a time to discuss a deal and Lavar's peeps don't trust any place that "the Danny"'s peeps pick to meet. OK it might not be to that level of distrust but you get the picture... bottom line WON"T HAPPEN

HEROHAMO wrote:Lavar is far more talented than Briggs. Twice the athlete and when healthy is easily in the top 3 backers in the league.

This can be argued when Lavar is healthy.... if we ever get to that point.

HEROHAMO wrote:Briggs Booooo! Bring back Lavar!

Briggs and Lavar will play somewhere else next year if either plays

Obviosly Drew R. wold try to garner interest in Briggs, then why would he meniton a team that shows interest in every FA, that doesn't give him much credibility unless it's true... It was the first team that he mentioned...

SeanTaylorJr. wrote:Obviosly Drew R. wold try to garner interest in Briggs, then why would he meniton a team that shows interest in every FA, that doesn't give him much credibility unless it's true... It was the first team that he mentioned...

"the danny' and Drew are boys so whenever the Skins are mentioned by him it holds wieght.

Why the rest of the world hasn't figured this out is beyond me

Not a chance Lavar comes back, not a chance

HEROHAMO wrote:Forget Briggs.

Ponder this.

If Lavar Arrington becomes healthy.

1. He is more talented than most any other Linebacker in the league.
hot shot yes. Freelancer yes.

Huh? In 2001 maybe. Not 2007. You can blame it on his injuries or his inability to learn a defense properly but he's not a top 20 linebacker in the NFL anymore, much less #1.

HEROHAMO wrote:3. He is coming off an injury and shouldnt command a high price tag.

Yeah, that's why he's considering retirement. So we bench a 100 tackle a year player (Marshall) and our 2nd round pick from last year (McIntosh) to bring back Lavar who has knees that sound like Rice Crispies who got shipped out of Washington because he wouldn't follow the playbook. Lavar was a great player once. I know it's hard to let go, but he's not that player anymore.

1niksder wrote:

HEROHAMO wrote:Forget Briggs.

Why? He's the hottest thing NOT on the market

HEROHAMO wrote:Ponder this.

.... OK

HEROHAMO wrote:If Lavar Arrington becomes healthy.

Big IF but OK

HEROHAMO wrote:1. He is more talented than most any other Linebacker in the league.
hot shot yes. Freelancer yes.

Most talented 3 and a half years ago yes, hot shot yes, Freelancer yes...
more talented in the last 3 years than most linebackers on the NFL practice squads yes - active players depends on who you talked to (some active players actually played ), hot shot - one year on the 4 letter network next year not so much. Freelancer you bet

HEROHAMO wrote:2. He still is a playmaker and you have to account for where he is on the field.

When was the last time he played, did he make a play in tha game?

HEROHAMO wrote:3. He is coming off an injury and shouldnt command a high price tag.

he's coming off a injury after coming off injury... he'll be cheap where ever he goes, might be a steel

HEROHAMO wrote:4. If it works out we would then have a pro bowler back at the weak side.

Not going to happen...(it's the beltway - bridges don't mend that quickly, money doesn't (but really does) matter.

HEROHAMO wrote:5. Bringing him in would definatley help support the run D. Essentially he is like having a good Dlineman.

See #4

HEROHAMO wrote:How does this relate to Lance Briggs?

Well if we are even considering bringing Briggs in for the Boatload that he is commanding coming off a SuperBowl appearance.

Then why not consider bringing back Lavar under a conditional contract with incentives that state that he has to play at least 70 percent of the season?

Cap space is the short answer, they can look at anyone that has ever played in the NFL and come out better than they would with Lavar. "the Danny"'s peeps don't trust lavar's peeps to pick a time to discuss a deal and Lavar's peeps don't trust any place that "the Danny"'s peeps pick to meet. OK it might not be to that level of distrust but you get the picture... bottom line WON"T HAPPEN

HEROHAMO wrote:Lavar is far more talented than Briggs. Twice the athlete and when healthy is easily in the top 3 backers in the league.

This can be argued when Lavar is healthy.... if we ever get to that point.

HEROHAMO wrote:Briggs Booooo! Bring back Lavar!

Briggs and Lavar will play somewhere else next year if either plays

I know there are alot of ILL feelings against Lavar.
It is highly unlikely that Lavar and D. Snyder will be able to bury the hatchet.
One thing I do know for sure. I know that that Lavar coming back has crossed the minds of D. Snyder, Gibbs and Lavar.

Once again the big IF Lavar is healthy and comes back at a little over the Vet Minimum and everyone was able to let Bigons be Bigons.

Then I say what is wrong with that? What a story that would be.

Lavar returns home to take the Skins back to the promised land.

Come back home son where you belong. Ill be hoping and praying we bring him back no matter what the circumstances suggest.

HEROHAMO wrote:I know there are alot of ILL feelings against Lavar.
It is highly unlikely that Lavar and D. Snyder will be able to bury the hatchet.
One thing I do know for sure. I know that that Lavar coming back has crossed the minds of D. Snyder, Gibbs and Lavar.

Once again the big IF Lavar is healthy and comes back at a little over the Vet Minimum and everyone was able to let Bigons be Bigons.

Then I say what is wrong with that? What a story that would be.

Lavar returns home to take the Skins back to the promised land.

Come back home son where you belong. Ill be hoping and praying we bring him back no matter what the circumstances suggest.

If it weren't for LaVar's ethical accusations against Danny over the the $5 mil bonus then all this could be true. But he would not and SHOULD not re-hire LaVar after that.

And then you had the baby motor mouth yacking it up in the press that Gibbs and GW were making him play injured and they said "say what?" Why would they want someone back who talks to the press before them to make accusations?

LaVar will never be a Redskin again. Forget this idea and it is LaVar's fault, not theirs as he burried the hatchet in their backs.