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More Cap Room...Portis & Moss Restructure
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:28 pm
by spudstr04
Clinton Portis and Santana Moss restructured their contracts, saving the team a combined $4.9 million in cap room.
Both players converted large portions of their salaries into roster bonuses - they didn't take any less money. This puts any possibility of a Portis trade to rest.
http://www.rotoworld.com
These guys are true team players!
Re: More Cap Room...Portis & Moss Restructure
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:35 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
spudstr04 wrote:Clinton Portis and Santana Moss restructured their contracts, saving the team a combined $4.9 million in cap room.
Both players converted large portions of their salaries into roster bonuses - they didn't take any less money. This puts any possibility of a Portis trade to rest.
http://www.rotoworld.comThese guys are true team players!
Yes, I was sick to death of those Portis trade discussions that were already pretty baseless, way to go putting that to rest!
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:36 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
With the heart this team is showing our management/F/O needs to get this ship righted quicker than ever. These guys deserved to be rewarded. They really must buy into Gibbs.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:41 pm
by warpath1410
How hard is it to buy into Gibbs when he is so comitted to the players. Cp and Moss want to win and know Gibbs has the ability to do it. Not to mention its so easy to love Gibbs style of smack mouth football and the hunger to put us back on track.
HAIL TO THE SKINS BABY!!
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:04 pm
by SO. CAL. SKIN DUDE
with the change in OTA & mini-camp schedules, Gibbs is listening to his players and their concerns... which again shows Gibbs' ability to deal with present day player damands.
Hard to believe this would have happend in the 80's.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:05 pm
by Skinsfan55
Sounds like the Skins are clearing space for Dre Bly.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:14 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
Skinsfan55 wrote:Sounds like the Skins are clearing space for Dre Bly.
Certainly makes sense. It seem odd they are clearing this much space though unless they really believe the deal is imminent and they are going to include Shawn Springs and need the cap space to eat his 7.5 mil.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:15 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Hopefully you're wrong and we're clearing space to resign

ey and Taylor.

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:33 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Hopefully you're wrong and we're clearing space to resign

ey and Taylor.

You didn't say otherwise, but just to be clear I'm not arguing for Bly. I think he's better then some have said, but I'm not drooling either.
It doesn't seem like they'd need that much of this year's cap to sign

ey and Taylor. We usually give big bonuses & minimum salary to limit the cap hit. They are not free agents until next year anyway and it seems like these things are not done this early.
It just seems like with Bly's statements in the press, the Springs situation and the sudden big cap clearing the most likely explanation.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:57 pm
by SkinsHead56
KazooSkinsFan wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:Hopefully you're wrong and we're clearing space to resign

ey and Taylor.

You didn't say otherwise, but just to be clear I'm not arguing for Bly. I think he's better then some have said, but I'm not drooling either.
It doesn't seem like they'd need that much of this year's cap to sign

ey and Taylor. We usually give big bonuses & minimum salary to limit the cap hit.
They are not free agents until next year anyway and it seems like these things are not done this early.It just seems like with Bly's statements in the press, the Springs situation and the sudden big cap clearing the most likely explanation.
I would say now is the perfect time to extend

ey & Taylor. Look what happend to Dock because a deal was not struck early.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:00 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
SkinsHead56 wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:Hopefully you're wrong and we're clearing space to resign

ey and Taylor.

You didn't say otherwise, but just to be clear I'm not arguing for Bly. I think he's better then some have said, but I'm not drooling either.
It doesn't seem like they'd need that much of this year's cap to sign

ey and Taylor. We usually give big bonuses & minimum salary to limit the cap hit.
They are not free agents until next year anyway and it seems like these things are not done this early.It just seems like with Bly's statements in the press, the Springs situation and the sudden big cap clearing the most likely explanation.
I would say now is the perfect time to extend

ey & Taylor. Look what happend to Dock because a deal was not struck early.
And why wait to the last minute? Lets knock this out early.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:59 pm
by skinsfan#33
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Hopefully you're wrong and we're clearing space to resign

ey and Taylor.

That would be Too smart.
Re: More Cap Room...Portis & Moss Restructure
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:00 pm
by riggofan
spudstr04 wrote:These guys are true team players!
I think these restructures are usually just as good financially for the players as they are the team aren't they? Player gets some up front cash vs. contract money that they would probably never realize. Team gets to lower the cap number. Dan Snyder has been the wiz at doing this because he has the cash to pay these up front bonuses.
Point being, not sure these guys are really taking one for the team or anything.
Glad they're up for it either way!
Re: More Cap Room...Portis & Moss Restructure
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:19 pm
by 1niksder
riggofan wrote:spudstr04 wrote:These guys are true team players!
I think these restructures are usually just as good financially for the players as they are the team aren't they? Player gets some up front cash vs. contract money that they would probably never realize. Team gets to lower the cap number. Dan Snyder has been the wiz at doing this because he has the cash to pay these up front bonuses.
Point being, not sure these guys are really taking one for the team or anything.
Glad they're up for it either way!
They aren't taking pay cuts if thats what you mean.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:26 pm
by SkinsFreak
SkinsHead56 wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:Hopefully you're wrong and we're clearing space to resign

ey and Taylor.

You didn't say otherwise, but just to be clear I'm not arguing for Bly. I think he's better then some have said, but I'm not drooling either.
It doesn't seem like they'd need that much of this year's cap to sign

ey and Taylor. We usually give big bonuses & minimum salary to limit the cap hit.
They are not free agents until next year anyway and it seems like these things are not done this early.It just seems like with Bly's statements in the press, the Springs situation and the sudden big cap clearing the most likely explanation.
I would say now is the perfect time to extend

ey & Taylor. Look what happend to Dock because a deal was not struck early.
They tried to do something with Dock earlier, but Dock refused so he could play the market.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:36 pm
by 1niksder
skinsfan#33 wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:Hopefully you're wrong and we're clearing space to resign

ey and Taylor.

That would be Too smart.
Thomas was scheduled to become a free agent next year

Was it smart to re-sign him and Mike Sellers

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:39 pm
by skinsfan#33
1niksder wrote:skinsfan#33 wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:Hopefully you're wrong and we're clearing space to resign

ey and Taylor.

That would be Too smart.
Thomas was scheduled to become a free agent next year

Was it smart to re-sign him and Mike Sellers

Point taken, I guess there is hope!
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:59 pm
by 1niksder
KazooSkinsFan wrote:Certainly makes sense. It seem odd they are clearing this much space though unless they really believe the deal is imminent and they are going to include Shawn Springs and need the cap space to eat his 7.5 mil.
Springs cap number is already included in the cap. If he is cut or released before June 1st his cap number will go up almost $100,000.00

, the team is currently about $9M under the cap

If you woke up in the morning and Springs had been cut, the Skins would be $8.9M under.
Dre Bly has 1 year left on his deal and has a base salary of $4.2M so as it stands we have the room to bring him in too

Now

with Springs still on the team

. If signed to a long term deal his 2007 cap number could be about half what it would be if the trade took place now.
Rumor has it Dre doesnt want to come to Washington JUST for a sweet deal (that's probably already been discussed

...remember the agent makes no money if there is no NEW deal). He wants to be back in the area.
Rich Tandler wrote:A trade was being discussed even before Dre Bly was traded to the Broncos and promptly announced that he’d rather be a Redskin. Apparently he wants play in Washington because he has a home near there (he’s from Chesapeake, Virginia) and he has good reason to believe that the Redskins will offer him a lucrative contract extension, something that the Broncos aren’t willing to do.
I still think Springs will be shipped to Detroit if Bly is brought in
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:09 pm
by SkinsFreak
Ok, I don't know what to think anymore...
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I'm gonna do this for a while.
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:48 am
by VRIEL1
This is what gets under my skin. Alot of Redskins have already re-done their contracts to help the team but Springs won't.
One would think that if he truely wants to get out of town and be with Shanahan then he would re-due his contract to a cap friendly contract to be traded. Apparently he does not want to be traded, but he also does not want to be a team player like the rest in order to help the team and possibly get to the SB.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:01 am
by air_hog
Dude, sure CP and Moss and Samules are team players, but damn Dan Snyder just flat out owns this system!
Sure The Danny overspends for everyone, but he and his staff deserve mass DAP for the cap clearing moves they pull off.
Like the article said, the players will loose no money, however the Skins gain almost 5 Million in cap space.
You may hate Snyder, but you have to respect him.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:29 am
by warpath1410
air_hog wrote:Dude, sure CP and Moss and Samules are team players, but damn Dan Snyder just flat out owns this system!
Sure The Danny overspends for everyone, but he and his staff deserve mass DAP for the cap clearing moves they pull off.
Like the article said, the players will loose no money, however the Skins gain almost 5 Million in cap space.
You may hate Snyder, but you have to respect him.
AMEN to that brother, thank god we have a owner and coaches that what to see the team win rather then be a cheap a** and not rebuilding at all.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:59 pm
by The Hogster
Wow, we are actually well under the cap with no more scheduled FA visits...