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He's up to 9 on kipers board and branch is at 20! I guess its because Okoye put on some weight before the combine that he is up at nine. He is definitely only 19 and would def. cause havoc on the interior. He is very strong and quick. Might have to throw him into the mix.

This kid is a monster, and will be a beast on any team. Huge upside, extremely intelligent, a good locker room presence, a very hard worker.

I'm hoping he is taken at 6 by the 'skins.

I think I like this guy better than Branch. The fact that he is 19 says he is a hardworker. To be 19 and have the physical stature and strength that he has proves that he is a hard worker and will continue to do so in the future.

I like him more also. He is really good, young and moldable.

Countertrey wrote:This kid is a monster, and will be a beast on any team. Huge upside, extremely intelligent, a good locker room presence, a very hard worker.

I'm hoping he is taken at 6 by the 'skins.

I'm hoping he is taken at 12 or 13 by the Skins and the draft a guard with the 2nd round pick they get by trading down!

I'm hoping he is taken at 12 or 13 by the Skins and the draft a guard with the 2nd round pick they get by trading down!

That's what I was hoping one week ago. The problem is, his stock is rising so fast that I doubt he's there at 12 or 13. He has to be taken earlier.

This is the thickest draft for quality dlineman. We will do ok.

OK, here's is what I want us to do:

Hopefully Quinn or Peterson will be available at #6 when we are up, then we could trade down to like #8 with Houston.

With the #8 pick we would get this Okoye(?) kid who is a freakin monster, AT 19 YEARS OLD!

Then would could pick up like a 3rd Rounder and pick up sturdy OG in the thrid round, and develop him into Dock's replacement.

But seriously, since that probably won't happen, I think we should even consider Amobi Okoye at #6.

He's young, strong, quick, he actually plays hard every play, by the way he's 19 YEARS OLD, and he's really smart (he was accepted at Harvard!)

Who cares if he isn't considered a top 5 pick now, again HE'S ONLY 19!!!!!!

Just imagined what he would be rated if he was 21/22 like all the other guys he's competing against right now!

Is one of your rules for drafting is the players has to be of legal age?

Is one of your rules for drafting is the players has to be of legal age?

I'm not sure what you are asking...

18 is the legal age of adulthood. You can sign contracts without daddy's co-signature then.

Countertrey wrote:18 is the legal age of adulthood. You can sign contracts without daddy's co-signature then.

Really? Crap

That explains Springs. I wondered why his dad signed on his contract.

Really? Crap

Smartazz.

OK, so I've been thinking about Amboi Okoye for a while now and I've thought about this question...

Give me one reason why we shouldn't draft Okoye with the 6th Overall pick.

The kid is YOUNG, SMART, STRONG, HE PLAYS WITH HEART ON EVERYPLAY.

Honestly, I want to see of anyone can give me one reason why we shouldn't draft Okoye 6th overall.

air_hog wrote:OK, so I've been thinking about Amboi Okoye for a while now and I've thought about this question...

Give me one reason why we shouldn't draft Okoye with the 6th Overall pick.

The kid is YOUNG, SMART, STRONG, HE PLAYS WITH HEART ON EVERYPLAY.

Honestly, I want to see of anyone can give me one reason why we shouldn't draft Okoye 6th overall.

Because they could drop down about 6 picks and still get him

air_hog wrote:OK, so I've been thinking about Amboi Okoye for a while now and I've thought about this question...

Give me one reason why we shouldn't draft Okoye with the 6th Overall pick.

The kid is YOUNG, SMART, STRONG, HE PLAYS WITH HEART ON EVERYPLAY.

Honestly, I want to see of anyone can give me one reason why we shouldn't draft Okoye 6th overall.

Because he's only started 11 games in his college career, and his college career has produced a grand total of 2.5 sacks, including a whole 0.5 sacks last year when he started 10 games?

He's got a lot of potential, but he doesn't have a productive body of work to judge him on. Kind of like Mike Mamula was...

Okoye is a player you draft for potential. I don't see him playing every down for us even if we do get him. He would be in a rotation of players on the dline. It seems from what I'm hearing around that all the defensive line guys are going to need some work even thought these positions are pretty deep.

PulpExposure wrote:

air_hog wrote:OK, so I've been thinking about Amboi Okoye for a while now and I've thought about this question...

Give me one reason why we shouldn't draft Okoye with the 6th Overall pick.

The kid is YOUNG, SMART, STRONG, HE PLAYS WITH HEART ON EVERYPLAY.

Honestly, I want to see of anyone can give me one reason why we shouldn't draft Okoye 6th overall.

Because he's only started 11 games in his college career, and his college career has produced a grand total of 2.5 sacks, including a whole 0.5 sacks last year when he started 10 games?

He's got a lot of potential, but he doesn't have a productive body of work to judge him on. Kind of like Mike Mamula was...

First off, you're wrong bro:

ESPN Scouts INC. wrote:Overall: Okoye arrived at Louisville in 2003 as a 16-year-old true freshman and played in all 13 games registering 17 total tackles, two tackles-for-loss, and one sack. In 2004, he played in 11 games (one start; Army), missed the East Carolina game with a shoulder injury, and made 26 total tackles, two tackles-for-loss, and one sack for the year. Okoye started 10 of the 11 games he played in during the 2005 season, missed the Florida Atlantic game with a foot sprain, and finished the season with 23 total tackles, four tackles-for-loss, 0.5 sacks, and three fumble recoveries. He started all 13 games in 2006 and registered 55 total tackles, 15 tackles for loss, eight sacks, and three forced fumbles, garnering him Associated Press Second Team All-America and First Team All-Big East honors.

You were saying how he only had 2 1/2 sacks his college career... yeah, before he even turned 18 YEARS OLD!

The kid played at a big time program, and had 8 sacks his senior year, 2nd Team All-American at 19 Years Old

Dude, if you guys are comparing him to Alan Branch's production, of course Branch will have better numbers, he's like 3 years old than Okoye! The dude is still only a Teenager!!!

And as for Fios saying, "Becuause we could trade down and still get him".

Well, I would love that, however, A) First you have to find a trade partner who is still picking in the Top 10, B) There are only like 2 players, Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson, worth trading up for and most likely they'll be gone before we pick anyways.

air_hog wrote:Give me one reason why we shouldn't draft Okoye with the 6th Overall pick.

Jamaal Anderson.

Age doesn't matter as much as pure years played where the load is on them.

Anderson has as much if not more physical ability than this guy to go along with better stats.

^What he said. I'd take Anderson in a heartbeat.

air_hog wrote:
First off, you're wrong bro:.

Yeah you're right. I was looking at the Louisville Player Page, and they didn't include his senior season at all. My bad.

What my point was (albiet poorly made) is that when you draft this kid, you're drafting potential. He's got a lot of the things you look for, but I have a hard time believing any 19 year old can walk into the NFL and play with the 30 year olds who have been professionals for 8 years and had professional strength and technique training for 8 years.

I think he's sort of a project (with fantastic upside). But I don't know if we have the time to pick someone who isn't ready to play now...and play a lot.

PulpExposure wrote:

air_hog wrote:OK, so I've been thinking about Amboi Okoye for a while now and I've thought about this question...

Give me one reason why we shouldn't draft Okoye with the 6th Overall pick.

The kid is YOUNG, SMART, STRONG, HE PLAYS WITH HEART ON EVERYPLAY.

Honestly, I want to see of anyone can give me one reason why we shouldn't draft Okoye 6th overall.

Because he's only started 11 games in his college career, and his college career has produced a grand total of 2.5 sacks, including a whole 0.5 sacks last year when he started 10 games?

He's got a lot of potential, but he doesn't have a productive body of work to judge him on. Kind of like Mike Mamula was...

Since when do Defensive tackles get massive amounts of sacks? We are talking about the way this kid can disrupt the run. The best Defensive tackles in the league rarely get sacks. A productive Defensive tackles first priority is to stuff the run and occupy blockers to free up our defensive ends or linebackers on a blitz.

Anybody we draft we are taking a chance.

The upside of drafting a 19 year old is that he has room to grow and could be lineing up for the Skins for years to come.

HEROHAMO wrote:[q Since when do Defensive tackles get massive amounts of sacks? We are talking about the way this kid can disrupt the run. The best Defensive tackles in the league rarely get sacks.

Not all DTs are pure run smashers. Plenty of DTs get sacks in the NFL. Warren Sapp is one example (10 sacks this year, had 16.5 in 2000, 10 sacks or more 4 times in his career), as is La'roi Glover (17 sacks in 2000, 8 sacks or more 4 times in his career also). Kevin Williams from Minnie has had 10 sacks or more 2 of his 4 years in the league. You're probably forgetting John Randle, played in the 1990s, he had 137.5 sacks over his career, and 10 or more sacks 8 years.

Some DTs do rush the passer. Okoye isn't the kind of guy to be a pure run-stuffer like Haloti Ngata was out of college. He's more of a 3-technique tackle. Having him just stuff the line negates his explosiveness imho.

In any case, great DTs dominate in COLLEGE (for instance, Broderick Bunkley's senior year he had 25 tackles for losses and 9 sacks). I was talking about his college production.

But if you actually took the time to read the entire thread, or even heck the next page, you would see that I already admitted my quoted stats were incomplete above.

I like his potential. Something else you have to remember, he is super smart. A lot of these guys are not. I'll take brains over brawns any day.

Maybe at some positions. DT give me the braun over brains