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Sean Taylor is headed to Hawaii. The hard-hitting safety has been added to the Pro Bowl, replacing Brian Dawkins on the NFC roster.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=24699

At least there is some good news coming out of Redskins Park!

Wow, I guess this shows that despite how bad ST looked on TV this year, he must have been doing things right to get this kind of recognition. I thought this was his worst year as a pro, but it was apparently much better than it looked.

VASkin27 wrote:Wow, I guess this shows that despite how bad ST looked on TV this year, he must have been doing things right to get this kind of recognition. I thought this was his worst year as a pro, but it was apparently much better than it looked.

I agree it was his worst, but it was not bad I think he should have made it last year. But i think he deserve to be there because he should have had a least one under his belt at this point in his career. That's my boy and I am excited to watch the pro-bowl so he can show everybody he is going to be the best.

This was his worst year as a pro but I'm still thrilled he gets to go.

And besides, Roy Williams was WAY worse than Sean was this year and he was ALREADY in.

Congrats Sean!

I'm happy that he made it but then again something scares me. ST is going to be hitting like he normally does and people may not appreciate that since its the Pro Bowl and all.

Still just a popularity contest.

He doesnt deserve to be there, but Roy Williams has never deserved it, and has been there many times.

Couldn't agree more about all the Roy Williams talk. They both hit viciously but Taylor is much better in one on one coverage. But Dallas always get preferential pro bowl treatment, check exhibit Tony Romo

1niksder wrote:Still just a popularity contest.

thats what it all boils down too doesn,t it..

Saw this on the news last night and couldn't help but think SO FREAKING WHAT.

Still pretty bitter about this past season myself.

Congrats to him, maybe I'll watch it now to see if he lays someone out.

I understand Roy Williams is a Cowboy, but the dude is a hell of a football player, and his coverage skills can't be much worse than Taylor's if he had 5 INTs... I remember Marvin Lewis, when he was with the 'Skins, saying he'd play "D" with 10 players if he could have Roy Williams...

You really couldn't go wrong with any of those big names in the NFC like Roy Williams, Adrian Wilson, Brian Dawkins, and Sean Taylor... Wilson may be the best of the group, even though he doesn't get a lot of pub...

Of course, the human ball hawk, Ed Reed, in the AFC is no slouch either...

Sean can't get into any trouble in Hawaii, can he? I mean, there aren't any problem neighbourhoods for him to avoid?

I'm just saying...

hatsOFF2gibbs wrote:I'm happy that he made it but then again something scares me. ST is going to be hitting like he normally does and people may not appreciate that since its the Pro Bowl and all.

i hope he lays people out!!

UK Skins Fan wrote:Sean can't get into any trouble in Hawaii, can he? I mean, there aren't any problem neighbourhoods for him to avoid?

I'm just saying...

You obviously have never watched "Dog the Bounty Hunter"! Yes there are bad neighborhoods in HI but I think he has learned his lesson.

All of that aside, I hope he lays someone out on the field!

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Congrats to him, maybe I'll watch it now to see if he lays someone out.

Really, I'm with ya.

USAFSkinFan wrote:I understand Roy Williams is a Cowboy, but the dude is a hell of a football player, and his coverage skills can't be much worse than Taylor's if he had 5 INTs... I remember Marvin Lewis, when he was with the 'Skins, saying he'd play "D" with 10 players if he could have Roy Williams...

You really couldn't go wrong with any of those big names in the NFC like Roy Williams, Adrian Wilson, Brian Dawkins, and Sean Taylor... Wilson may be the best of the group, even though he doesn't get a lot of pub...

Of course, the human ball hawk, Ed Reed, in the AFC is no slouch either...

Are you serious man?

Roy Williams had a TERRIBLE season. The guy had 2 more tackles than freakin Adam Archuletta did this season and AA was benched about half way thru the year. He also got humiliated in coverage just about every week.

Roy was a great college player and he had some good moments early in his career but he was awful this season, way way worse than Sean was when Sean was at his worst.

Just look at these tackles numbers:

Taylor 111
Roy 62
AA 60


Call it hate if you want but I lifted those numbers right off NFL.com. There isn't a player in this league that made the Pro Bowl more exclusively off their rep than Roy Williams this year. He's awful.

USAFSkinFan wrote:I understand Roy Williams is a Cowboy, but the dude is a hell of a football player, and his coverage skills can't be much worse than Taylor's if he had 5 INTs... I remember Marvin Lewis, when he was with the 'Skins, saying he'd play "D" with 10 players if he could have Roy Williams...

You really couldn't go wrong with any of those big names in the NFC like Roy Williams, Adrian Wilson, Brian Dawkins, and Sean Taylor... Wilson may be the best of the group, even though he doesn't get a lot of pub...

Of course, the human ball hawk, Ed Reed, in the AFC is no slouch either...

Dude! No offense man......but if you want to see Roy Williams coverage skills just look at my avatar!

P.S. He sucks at tackling too..........Unless he grabs your shoulder pads from behind!!!

Taylor does not deserve the pro-bowl at all. he played like crap this year, wasn't even a top10 FS in the league this year.

JPM36 wrote:This was his worst year as a pro but I'm still thrilled he gets to go.

And besides, Roy Williams was WAY worse than Sean was this year and he was ALREADY in.

Congrats Sean!

you are a complete homer. Sean Taylor was beat 11 times for a TD this year, Roy Williams was beat 3 times.

have you ever watched football? just because Roy only had 62 tackles, doesn't mean jack. you are simply pulling numbers off of the internet, thats all you have brought up in your argument of Roy "sucking."

Roy had a much better year than Taylor did. Taylor was beat for 11 TDs, while Roy was beat for 3, Roy forced 8 turnovers (should have had 10, but 2 were called back because of roughing the passer and hit on defenseless WR calls).

USAFSkinFan wrote:You really couldn't go wrong with any of those big names in the NFC like Roy Williams, Adrian Wilson, Brian Dawkins, and Sean Taylor... Wilson may be the best of the group, even though he doesn't get a lot of pub...

yea, all 4 of them are atop the league, but i think you got it a bit twisted.

Dawkins is probably the best Safety in the league.

Roy Williams is the 2nd best S in our division, followed by Wilson and then comes Taylor.

oh and 2 of his INTs were called back, 1 because Newman decked a Lions WR and they called "hit on a defenseless WR" and the other because of a "roughing the QB" call. and he took that INT vs. the Lions back to the house. not to mention he forced 3 fumbles as well. so 10 turnovers looks pretty good to me.



on those 2 Santana Moss TDs last year, Roy was at fault for one of them, the other one it was Keith Davis zone and Roy Williams came from his, after the ball was thrown. on that 39 yarder, Roy was most definately at fault though.


Sean Taylor is a hoax and has lived off of his potential alone, he hasn't produced all too much yet. you guys need to get off his cock, he might be a pretty good FS with a lot of potential. he might be one of the most athletic players in the NFL, but he is stupid and hasnt done jack in his career.

Roy came into the league his rookie year and after 4 games was being compared to Dawkins and even put above him (remember the 2 INTs for 6 he had against you guys that first game?).

Sean Taylors rookie year he got burnt by our 7th round rookie Patrick Crayton (and yea, im gonna bring that up, simply because you guys brought up the Santana Moss TDs from last year). Where was Santana Moss this year? I believe T. Newman made him his bitch in both games!


and to whoever said Tony Romos pro-bowl was a joke, you are completely right, so was DeAngelo Halls and Sean Taylors. I assure you that T-New is a better CB than Hall and i can name atleast 3 FS that are better than Taylor in the NFC.

bobbie brewskie wrote:Roy came into the league his rookie year and after 4 games was being compared to Dawkins and even put above him (remember the 2 INTs for 6 he had against you guys that first game?).

Yet in this same post you say Dawkins is tops in the Leauge and Roy is 2nd in the division
Are you saying Roy has dropped off the years have went by?

bobbie brewskie wrote:Taylor does not deserve the pro-bowl at all. he played like crap this year, wasn't even a top10 FS in the league this year.

JPM36 wrote:This was his worst year as a pro but I'm still thrilled he gets to go.

And besides, Roy Williams was WAY worse than Sean was this year and he was ALREADY in.

Congrats Sean!

you are a complete homer. Sean Taylor was beat 11 times for a TD this year, Roy Williams was beat 3 times.

have you ever watched football? just because Roy only had 62 tackles, doesn't mean jack. you are simply pulling numbers off of the internet, thats all you have brought up in your argument of Roy "sucking."

Roy had a much better year than Taylor did. Taylor was beat for 11 TDs, while Roy was beat for 3, Roy forced 8 turnovers (should have had 10, but 2 were called back because of roughing the passer and hit on defenseless WR calls).

USAFSkinFan wrote:You really couldn't go wrong with any of those big names in the NFC like Roy Williams, Adrian Wilson, Brian Dawkins, and Sean Taylor... Wilson may be the best of the group, even though he doesn't get a lot of pub...

yea, all 4 of them are atop the league, but i think you got it a bit twisted.

Dawkins is probably the best Safety in the league.

Roy Williams is the 2nd best S in our division, followed by Wilson and then comes Taylor.

oh and 2 of his INTs were called back, 1 because Newman decked a Lions WR and they called "hit on a defenseless WR" and the other because of a "roughing the QB" call. and he took that INT vs. the Lions back to the house. not to mention he forced 3 fumbles as well. so 10 turnovers looks pretty good to me.



on those 2 Santana Moss TDs last year, Roy was at fault for one of them, the other one it was Keith Davis zone and Roy Williams came from his, after the ball was thrown. on that 39 yarder, Roy was most definately at fault though.


Sean Taylor is a hoax and has lived off of his potential alone, he hasn't produced all too much yet. you guys need to get off his cock, he might be a pretty good FS with a lot of potential. he might be one of the most athletic players in the NFL, but he is stupid and hasnt done jack in his career.

Roy came into the league his rookie year and after 4 games was being compared to Dawkins and even put above him (remember the 2 INTs for 6 he had against you guys that first game?).

Sean Taylors rookie year he got burnt by our 7th round rookie Patrick Crayton (and yea, im gonna bring that up, simply because you guys brought up the Santana Moss TDs from last year). Where was Santana Moss this year? I believe T. Newman made him his bitch in both games!


and to whoever said Tony Romos pro-bowl was a joke, you are completely right, so was DeAngelo Halls and Sean Taylors. I assure you that T-New is a better CB than Hall and i can name atleast 3 FS that are better than Taylor in the NFC.

I was gonna give this guy a chance until he said that Roy Williams was beat for 3 TDs this year.... Wow....


I mean.... Wow....

One of the dumbest comments I've ever heard on a football forum. Just unbelievably ridiculous.


And I do agree with you that tackles are not EVERYTHING when judging safeties but 111 to 62 is a such a huge disparity that you have to look at it. That's nearly twice as many tackles. How can you just turn away from a stat like that?

Roy Williams had a terrible, terrible season. 3 TDs? Haha..... Unreal... absolutely unreal. Not even worth arguing with someone this off base.

I do agree that Newman should be in the Pro Bowl tho. He's the best CB in the NFC in my opinion.

Roy Williams gave up 3 TDs??? HAHA. What game are we talking about? HAHA...


Unfreakingreal.

JPM36 wrote:

bobbie brewskie wrote:Taylor does not deserve the pro-bowl at all. he played like crap this year, wasn't even a top10 FS in the league this year.

JPM36 wrote:This was his worst year as a pro but I'm still thrilled he gets to go.

And besides, Roy Williams was WAY worse than Sean was this year and he was ALREADY in.

Congrats Sean!

you are a complete homer. Sean Taylor was beat 11 times for a TD this year, Roy Williams was beat 3 times.

have you ever watched football? just because Roy only had 62 tackles, doesn't mean jack. you are simply pulling numbers off of the internet, thats all you have brought up in your argument of Roy "sucking."

Roy had a much better year than Taylor did. Taylor was beat for 11 TDs, while Roy was beat for 3, Roy forced 8 turnovers (should have had 10, but 2 were called back because of roughing the passer and hit on defenseless WR calls).

USAFSkinFan wrote:You really couldn't go wrong with any of those big names in the NFC like Roy Williams, Adrian Wilson, Brian Dawkins, and Sean Taylor... Wilson may be the best of the group, even though he doesn't get a lot of pub...

yea, all 4 of them are atop the league, but i think you got it a bit twisted.

Dawkins is probably the best Safety in the league.

Roy Williams is the 2nd best S in our division, followed by Wilson and then comes Taylor.

oh and 2 of his INTs were called back, 1 because Newman decked a Lions WR and they called "hit on a defenseless WR" and the other because of a "roughing the QB" call. and he took that INT vs. the Lions back to the house. not to mention he forced 3 fumbles as well. so 10 turnovers looks pretty good to me.



on those 2 Santana Moss TDs last year, Roy was at fault for one of them, the other one it was Keith Davis zone and Roy Williams came from his, after the ball was thrown. on that 39 yarder, Roy was most definately at fault though.


Sean Taylor is a hoax and has lived off of his potential alone, he hasn't produced all too much yet. you guys need to get off his cock, he might be a pretty good FS with a lot of potential. he might be one of the most athletic players in the NFL, but he is stupid and hasnt done jack in his career.

Roy came into the league his rookie year and after 4 games was being compared to Dawkins and even put above him (remember the 2 INTs for 6 he had against you guys that first game?).

Sean Taylors rookie year he got burnt by our 7th round rookie Patrick Crayton (and yea, im gonna bring that up, simply because you guys brought up the Santana Moss TDs from last year). Where was Santana Moss this year? I believe T. Newman made him his bitch in both games!


and to whoever said Tony Romos pro-bowl was a joke, you are completely right, so was DeAngelo Halls and Sean Taylors. I assure you that T-New is a better CB than Hall and i can name atleast 3 FS that are better than Taylor in the NFC.

I was gonna give this guy a chance until he said that Roy Williams was beat for 3 TDs this year.... Wow....


I mean.... Wow....

One of the dumbest comments I've ever heard on a football forum. Just unbelievably ridiculous.


And I do agree with you that tackles are not EVERYTHING when judging safeties but 111 to 62 is a such a huge disparity that you have to look at it. That's nearly twice as many tackles. How can you just turn away from a stat like that?

Roy Williams had a terrible, terrible season. 3 TDs? Haha..... Unreal... absolutely unreal. Not even worth arguing with someone this off base.

I do agree that Newman should be in the Pro Bowl tho. He's the best CB in the NFC in my opinion.

Roy Williams gave up 3 TDs??? HAHA. What game are we talking about? HAHA...


Unfreakingreal.

111 tackles from your FS is nothing to be proud of, that means your LBs cant tackle. Roy had 62 tackles, but our front-7 was one of the best Ds vs. the run this year. funny how you act like tackles are such a great # to have as a FS. have you ever heard the saying, "im happy when my FS isnt making tackles." yea, well Taylor made 111 tackles and your run D was horrid. Roy made 62 tackles - a decent amount and our run D was stout.

can you name 3 TDs that were his fault? excluding playoffs. if you count playoffs i will say 4 or maybe 5 if you count that TD that split our cover-2 zone.

and you didn't really say anything in defense of Sean Taylor, i take it that you realize how much he blows and lives of the "potential" that he supposedly has.

and thanks for acknowledging Newman as the best CB in the NFC, i cant disagree.

You can't just pull stats out of your "rear end" like Taylor gave up 11 TDs and Roy gave up 3. You don't know that for a fact. That is complete garbage. Do I know how many TDs Sean gave up this year? No. I really don't. He gave up several though. I'd have to go back and watch tape of every game, then ask the coaches whose responsibility the WRs were on every TD pass that he was in the area of.

I watched every Redskins game this season and was subjected to every Cowboys game bc they were shown on national TV every week as the media darlings of the league for no apparent reason.

It is my opinion that Roy Williams, WITHOUT QUESTION, gave up more TDs than Sean this year. And that is with the best CB in the conference anchoring his secondary. Sean played in an extremely banged up secondary, behind a far wose Front 7 than Roy enjoys, like you already said.

Sean Taylor is a far better player than Roy Williams is. Roy is just too slow to play safety in the NFL.

JPM36 wrote:You can't just pull stats out of your "rear end" like Taylor gave up 11 TDs and Roy gave up 3. You don't know that for a fact. That is complete garbage. Do I know how many TDs Sean gave up this year? No. I really don't. He gave up several though. I'd have to go back and watch tape of every game, then ask the coaches whose responsibility the WRs were on every TD pass that he was in the area of.

I watched every Redskins game this season and was subjected to every Cowboys game bc they were shown on national TV every week as the media darlings of the league for no apparent reason.

It is my opinion that Roy Williams, WITHOUT QUESTION, gave up more TDs than Sean this year. And that is with the best CB in the conference anchoring his secondary. Sean played in an extremely banged up secondary, behind a far wose Front 7 than Roy enjoys, like you already said.

Sean Taylor is a far better player than Roy Williams is. Roy is just too slow to play safety in the NFL.

im sorry, but im pretty sure that over at DCFU somebody pulled those stats off of stats.inc. and i know for a fact that Taylor gave up more TDs than Roy this year. you are a freaking homer, Taylor played his worst season of his career. go watch the film, Taylor was beat for 11 TDs according to stats.inc while Roy was beat for 3 TDs.

its sad that you actually think that Taylor is a better S than Roy. you have nothing to justify your answer. simple opinion is all youve given me.

bobbie brewskie wrote:Sean Taylor...........hasnt done jack in his career.

Are you kidding?

Don't you remember the fumble he recovered last time we played? You know the one he returned to setup the game winning field goal?

How about the hit he put on Clayton during your 'Ring of Shame' game two years ago? You know when you guys had the first down and he just leveled Clayton! That really should have been ruled a fumble!!!!

Or my personal favorite.......those hits he put on TO during week 2 of this past season! TO had to take some pain killers after that game!!!!

Yeah.......you gotta be kidding!!!!