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My Way to Fix the Defense

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:03 pm
by Smithian
First off, I think Gregg Williams is a good coach, but his idea of "scheme is better than players" does not work.

Starting off the coaches, eliminate Steve Jackson or Terry Gray. Make the other one the true secondary coach. I would like that to be Terry Gray.

Next, D-Line. Keep Phillip Daniels and Andre Carter at DE. Daniels is a good run stuffer and Andre Carter is starting to be very good from his position. At DT, forget Salave'a, Montgomery, and Golston. We need to acquire a true DT to go next to Cornelius Griffin who can play every down and stuff the run and rush the passer both. Cornelius Griffin is a good player, but being double teamed basically every play makes his worth much less. With a quality DT(Robaire Smith, Ian Scott) and Cornelius Griffin starting next to each other, we can have a fierce rotation when Golston and Salave'a get their snaps. If we draft Gaines Adams or another starting caliber DE, Phillip Daniels would be an amazing backup and could also play snaps inside which would allow us to cut Montgomery or Salave'a.

Next, linebackers(You know, those guys who move back 5 yards every play). On the strongside, we have Marcus Washington. His effectiveness this year is not as much as the last couple years since he can't blitz as much, but he is still a beast. Lemar Marshall in the middle is a very smart linebacker who is good at getting everybody lined up. Marshall is an excellent cover guy usually if there is any rush whatsoever, but he would be much better off if moved outside where he dominated in my mind during 2004. In the middle, he has been eaten alive by run games. Outside, Marshall is better than both Holdman and McIntosh. Who would replace Marshall? The MLB FA class is weak, so I say draft Patrick Willis who is both physically solid and is a very smart LB in the same package. If Lemar Marshall stayed the starter in the middle, it wouldn't be a disaster, but McIntosh would need to be the starter outside over Holdman.

Finally, defensive backs. Our starting CBs are fine, but an upgrade at CB is needed. A FS, we have a good young player in Sean Taylor. At the other safety position, I feel like once our CBs are sorted out, Adam Archuleta will be good for us. He needs to take a sizeable pay cut. Our entire defensive backfield suffers from too much coaching. When healthy and allowed to do what they're best at, we have an excellent defensive backfield.

Hope everyone likes my opinion.

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:04 pm
by SkinzCanes
Starting off the coaches, eliminate Steve Jackson or Terry Gray. Make the other one the true secondary coach. I would like that to be Terry Gray.


Jackson needs to go. Even if all the stuff about him pouting and not talking to his players isn't true, he still isn't a very good coach.

Next, D-Line. Keep Phillip Daniels and Andre Carter at DE. Daniels is a good run stuffer and Andre Carter is starting to be very good from his position. At DT, forget Salave'a, Montgomery, and Golston. We need to acquire a true DT to go next to Cornelius Griffin who can play every down and stuff the run and rush the passer both. Cornelius Griffin is a good player, but being double teamed basically every play makes his worth much less. With a quality DT(Robaire Smith, Ian Scott) and Cornelius Griffin starting next to each other, we can have a fierce rotation when Golston and Salave'a get their snaps. If we draft Gaines Adams or another starting caliber DE, Phillip Daniels would be an amazing backup and could also play snaps inside which would allow us to cut Montgomery or Salave'a.


I agree that Daniels would be a great backup. However, I disagree with him being a starter next season. He gives us almost no pass rush and it was clear watching the game today that we need to do something about the lack of pass rush coming from the dline. Draft Gaines Adams. Also bring in another Defensive Tackle. Preferably one that create some sort of pass rush. Between Griffin, Salave'a, Montgomery, and Evans we have 4 total sacks. That is pathetic. Griffin and Salave'a have both had health problems the last few seasons and who knows what exactly we're going to get from Golston in the future. Either draft or sign somebody to compete for playing time on the interior of the line.

Next, linebackers(You know, those guys who move back 5 yards every play). On the strongside, we have Marcus Washington. His effectiveness this year is not as much as the last couple years since he can't blitz as much, but he is still a beast. Lemar Marshall in the middle is a very smart linebacker who is good at getting everybody lined up. Marshall is an excellent cover guy usually if there is any rush whatsoever, but he would be much better off if moved outside where he dominated in my mind during 2004. In the middle, he has been eaten alive by run games. Outside, Marshall is better than both Holdman and McIntosh. Who would replace Marshall? The MLB FA class is weak, so I say draft Patrick Willis who is both physically solid and is a very smart LB in the same package. If Lemar Marshall stayed the starter in the middle, it wouldn't be a disaster, but McIntosh would need to be the starter outside over Holdman.


I think that we have one of the worst linebacking groups in the NFL. Holdman and Marshall are a disaster, both in the run game and in pass coverage. When watching the game today I tried to pay as much attention to the linebackers as I could. On the positive side, Rocky finally got some significant pt and I thought played the best of all the lb's. Holdman, as usual, was pathetic. He was constantly getting caught up inside and not keeping containmment on his side of the field. He has no ability whatsoever to get off of blocks. In pass coverage he struggled and played a major factor in allowing Jackson's td catch. Marshall, while smart and good at getting people into position, just doesn't have the physical ability to play inside. He was constantly getting caught up in blocks and didn't have the strenght to break off. On running plays up the middle he was getting pushed out of the way and as a result was having to catch up to runners from behind instead of hitting them before they made it into the secondary. Washington didn't have his best season but is a very good lb and hopefully will still be around next season (doesn't he have a high cap number??). I would like to see Rocky starting on the outside next season and a new player at mlb. Draft Willis from Miss St or Buster Davis from FSU, or sign Adalius Thomas or London Fletcher. Signing Fletcher to short term deal and drafting Thomas/Willis would be my preference. Flethcer is older but knows GW's system and could teach it to a young guy that we draft.

Finally, defensive backs. Our starting CBs are fine, but an upgrade at CB is needed. A FS, we have a good young player in Sean Taylor. At the other safety position, I feel like once our CBs are sorted out, Adam Archuleta will be good for us. He needs to take a sizeable pay cut. Our entire defensive backfield suffers from too much coaching. When healthy and allowed to do what they're best at, we have an excellent defensive backfield.


Not sure what will happen with AA. With the way the coahces are treating him I can't imagine that they want him back. How big of a cap hit would it be to release him? Prioleu should be back healthy and I think that we are fine with him and Taylor. I think that we need to bring in a starting caliber corner back though. Springs is great but he is inury prone and with his cap number who knows if he will be back. I'm not a fan of Rogers and think that he will never be better than a #2 corner and I have serious doubts about his ability to even be a #2. Hopefully he proves me wrong next season. The corners in the draft this year aren't the best so I think that we need to sign someone like Nate Clements.

Re: My Way to Fix the Defense

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 12:49 am
by 1niksder
Smithian wrote:First off, I think Gregg Williams is a good coach, but his idea of "scheme is better than players" does not work.

Starting off the coaches, eliminate Steve Jackson or Terry Gray. Make the other one the true secondary coach. I would like that to be Terry Gray.

I don't understand why Jackson is still here now, or why Williams feels the D-line has to stunt on every play

Smithian wrote:Next, D-Line. Keep Phillip Daniels and Andre Carter at DE. Daniels is a good run stuffer and Andre Carter is starting to be very good from his position. At DT, forget Salave'a, Montgomery, and Golston. We need to acquire a true DT to go next to Cornelius Griffin who can play every down and stuff the run and rush the passer both. Cornelius Griffin is a good player, but being double teamed basically every play makes his worth much less. With a quality DT(Robaire Smith, Ian Scott) and Cornelius Griffin starting next to each other, we can have a fierce rotation when Golston and Salave'a get their snaps. If we draft Gaines Adams or another starting caliber DE, Phillip Daniels would be an amazing backup and could also play snaps inside which would allow us to cut Montgomery or Salave'a.

Golston is improving weekly and this off-season should be a bonus, depth is still a need here if Golston can hold the spot next to Corny. DE is a most going into the off season, Carter is coming along but then we have question marks across the board. Daniels plays better on the same side as Carter so we need someone to play opposite him, Daniels would be a good backup if healthy (anyone know his status after today's game?)

Smithian wrote:Next, linebackers(You know, those guys who move back 5 yards every play). On the strongside, we have Marcus Washington. His effectiveness this year is not as much as the last couple years since he can't blitz as much, but he is still a beast. Lemar Marshall in the middle is a very smart linebacker who is good at getting everybody lined up. Marshall is an excellent cover guy usually if there is any rush whatsoever, but he would be much better off if moved outside where he dominated in my mind during 2004. In the middle, he has been eaten alive by run games. Outside, Marshall is better than both Holdman and McIntosh. Who would replace Marshall? The MLB FA class is weak, so I say draft Patrick Willis who is both physically solid and is a very smart LB in the same package. If Lemar Marshall stayed the starter in the middle, it wouldn't be a disaster, but McIntosh would need to be the starter outside over Holdman.

Washington played hurt all year until he couldn't go anymore. Why is Jeff Posey on the roster? We need depth on the outside, and a if Holdman is back next year it will have to be to play in the middle as he has proven he can't play either SLB or WLB. McIntosh looked good today and should get better so we may be set with him on the weakside and MW health at SLB. Marshall can backup McIntosh and we'll need a starting MLB and depth behind Washington. Then again maybe blowning this unit would be a good thing

Smithian wrote:Finally, defensive backs. Our starting CBs are fine, but an upgrade at CB is needed. A FS, we have a good young player in Sean Taylor. At the other safety position, I feel like once our CBs are sorted out, Adam Archuleta will be good for us. He needs to take a sizeable pay cut. Our entire defensive backfield suffers from too much coaching. When healthy and allowed to do what they're best at, we have an excellent defensive backfield.

I think we need another starter at CB not a starting caliber corner but a starter, most teams can open up with 3 wideouts and the Skins can't cover to top receivers right now. Rogers will get better, can cacth worth a damn but is always around the ball (that's a start). Springs has/will miss half of the 16 games played this year so he shouldn't be counted on. Can't really say what will happen with Arch but the spot needs to be filled. Fox is doing a good job and Prielou will be back next year, Vincents status is up in the air but I wouldn't back this any type of a priority. I think removing Jackson will fix a lot of the Safety issues

Smithian wrote:Hope everyone likes my opinion.

Hope the FO is forming a opinion that everyone will like

Re: My Way to Fix the Defense

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:38 am
by Smithian
1niksder wrote:
Smithian wrote:Hope everyone likes my opinion.
Hope the FO is forming a opinion that everyone will like
You know what? Tomorrow, we need to go up to Redskins Park and handle it ourselves.

We'll start off going to Steve Jackson's office. I'll take out the door and you'll go in there, break a couple chairs, yell a bit, then tell him to be gone by the Thursday following the Giants game or it's on.

Next, we'll go to Gregg Williams's office. He's a smart guy. He dealt with the dudes over at www.twobillsdrive.com. He won't want it to go down in his office. He'll take my list of demands without complaining.

Finally, we'll find Vinny Cerrato. I'll knock on the door and when he opens it, you'll immediately go for his legs. I'll quickly duct tape his mouth before I tape his arms and legs together. We'll go back to your car and you'll drive while I make our demands for changes. After I make him sign a paper in ink of our list of demands, we'll drop him off on his front porch.

If you don't want to, just drop me a PM.

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:01 am
by brad7686
There is no pass rush at all, and if there is it is usually from Carter who is looking less like a bust every game. I think Gaines Adams/Lamar Woodley would be great options at DE in the first round.

I think a monstrous D-tackle is a need if they are going to keep Marshall at MLB. He is just not strong enough to hold up at the POA versus blockers. If they can get a tougher MLB, than Golston can stay because he is going to create more pass rush than most DT's. I have seen him get caught up by blockers alot though versus the run. Alan Branch is a possibility draftwise, but he will not move the pocket whatsoever. He will just be a gap plugger.

Rocky needs to be ready to take Holdman's spot. That will be key. He has showed a lot of ability as far as tackling and pursuing in space, as well as making hits at the line.

Corner is a definite need, as Springs is very injury prone. Clements would be great.

Man, they need help everywhere. They def need a DE, and a corner or two, and they probably need another DT/MLB. That coupled with the fact that Sean Taylor needs to play waaay better in pass coverage and Rocky needs to play well in his first year as a starter.

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:05 am
by HEROHAMO
Most of the problems on defense come from a lack of a pass rush. We cant expect our secondary to cover guys forever. If we can get to the opposing teams qb it makes life a whole lot easier for our secondary. Drafting a Stud DE and Stud Nose tackle is must! One more stud Linebacker would help alot as well. First priority must go to the Dline. As far as AA goes man we really didnt even give him a chance to suceed. Sure he started the season off really bad but man it wasnt just AA. We need to give him another chance and support him not tear him apart. A coaches job is to bring out the best in his players whoever this Jackson fella is he has to go. I hope the Danny goes to work and gives him the boot. Last year it was Arrington, this year its AA. Whos next? This type of drama between coaches and players has to stop. A team should be unified or the whole thing will just crumble. Just like it did this year.

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:09 am
by crazyhorse1
SkinzCanes wrote:
Starting off the coaches, eliminate Steve Jackson or Terry Gray. Make the other one the true secondary coach. I would like that to be Terry Gray.


Jackson needs to go. Even if all the stuff about him pouting and not talking to his players isn't true, he still isn't a very good coach.

Next, D-Line. Keep Phillip Daniels and Andre Carter at DE. Daniels is a good run stuffer and Andre Carter is starting to be very good from his position. At DT, forget Salave'a, Montgomery, and Golston. We need to acquire a true DT to go next to Cornelius Griffin who can play every down and stuff the run and rush the passer both. Cornelius Griffin is a good player, but being double teamed basically every play makes his worth much less. With a quality DT(Robaire Smith, Ian Scott) and Cornelius Griffin starting next to each other, we can have a fierce rotation when Golston and Salave'a get their snaps. If we draft Gaines Adams or another starting caliber DE, Phillip Daniels would be an amazing backup and could also play snaps inside which would allow us to cut Montgomery or Salave'a.


I agree that Daniels would be a great backup. However, I disagree with him being a starter next season. He gives us almost no pass rush and it was clear watching the game today that we need to do something about the lack of pass rush coming from the dline. Draft Gaines Adams. Also bring in another Defensive Tackle. Preferably one that create some sort of pass rush. Between Griffin, Salave'a, Montgomery, and Evans we have 4 total sacks. That is pathetic. Griffin and Salave'a have both had health problems the last few seasons and who knows what exactly we're going to get from Golston in the future. Either draft or sign somebody to compete for playing time on the interior of the line.

Next, linebackers(You know, those guys who move back 5 yards every play). On the strongside, we have Marcus Washington. His effectiveness this year is not as much as the last couple years since he can't blitz as much, but he is still a beast. Lemar Marshall in the middle is a very smart linebacker who is good at getting everybody lined up. Marshall is an excellent cover guy usually if there is any rush whatsoever, but he would be much better off if moved outside where he dominated in my mind during 2004. In the middle, he has been eaten alive by run games. Outside, Marshall is better than both Holdman and McIntosh. Who would replace Marshall? The MLB FA class is weak, so I say draft Patrick Willis who is both physically solid and is a very smart LB in the same package. If Lemar Marshall stayed the starter in the middle, it wouldn't be a disaster, but McIntosh would need to be the starter outside over Holdman.


I think that we have one of the worst linebacking groups in the NFL. Holdman and Marshall are a disaster, both in the run game and in pass coverage. When watching the game today I tried to pay as much attention to the linebackers as I could. On the positive side, Rocky finally got some significant pt and I thought played the best of all the lb's. Holdman, as usual, was pathetic. He was constantly getting caught up inside and not keeping containmment on his side of the field. He has no ability whatsoever to get off of blocks. In pass coverage he struggled and played a major factor in allowing Jackson's td catch. Marshall, while smart and good at getting people into position, just doesn't have the physical ability to play inside. He was constantly getting caught up in blocks and didn't have the strenght to break off. On running plays up the middle he was getting pushed out of the way and as a result was having to catch up to runners from behind instead of hitting them before they made it into the secondary. Washington didn't have his best season but is a very good lb and hopefully will still be around next season (doesn't he have a high cap number??). I would like to see Rocky starting on the outside next season and a new player at mlb. Draft Willis from Miss St or Buster Davis from FSU, or sign Adalius Thomas or London Fletcher. Signing Fletcher to short term deal and drafting Thomas/Willis would be my preference. Flethcer is older but knows GW's system and could teach it to a young guy that we draft.

Finally, defensive backs. Our starting CBs are fine, but an upgrade at CB is needed. A FS, we have a good young player in Sean Taylor. At the other safety position, I feel like once our CBs are sorted out, Adam Archuleta will be good for us. He needs to take a sizeable pay cut. Our entire defensive backfield suffers from too much coaching. When healthy and allowed to do what they're best at, we have an excellent defensive backfield.


Not sure what will happen with AA. With the way the coahces are treating him I can't imagine that they want him back. How big of a cap hit would it be to release him? Prioleu should be back healthy and I think that we are fine with him and Taylor. I think that we need to bring in a starting caliber corner back though. Springs is great but he is inury prone and with his cap number who knows if he will be back. I'm not a fan of Rogers and think that he will never be better than a #2 corner and I have serious doubts about his ability to even be a #2. Hopefully he proves me wrong next season. The corners in the draft this year aren't the best so I think that we need to sign someone like Nate Clements.


I think we should take our best shots at getting Adams (draft) and Clements, and then a great DT. To me, the need for a MLB is great but not as great as the need for the other three; adding Adams and a stud DT will make Marshall's skills sufficient, especially if Rocky replaces Holman, which is a must. I'd love to get a third round pick back for Duckett and virtually anything for Arch.
I think Fox is a keeper and Golston will make a great backup. Suisham and Carter are now looking like serious gold, along with Bettsl; but I'm beginning to be concerned about Lloyd. Nevertheless, if I were Danny and had his money to throw around, I would throw it all at the defence. Rogers and Springs (health) are both definate question marks; and it seems to me that we have some real coaching problems in the secondary.

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:33 am
by die cowboys die
my idea on how to fix the defense is to take them all out back behind redskins park and shoot them in the head. then shoot them 20 or 30 more times each.

that ought to do it.

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:47 am
by 1niksder
die cowboys die wrote:my idea on how to fix the defense is to take them all out back behind redskins park and shoot them in the head. then shoot them 20 or 30 more times each.

that ought to do it.

That would take over 1100 shots not counting the ones that you would miss at point blank range

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:24 am
by roybus14
I say we begin building from within. Starting with Golston and McIntosh. Coach em' up and start them next year. If FA is the next move, then go get Clark and Smoot back and maybe a MLB. Otherwise either draft or target younger guys that have talent and just need coaching.

After you do that, trim the fat on the coaching staff. One LB coach; one Secondary coach; one D-Line coach and make GW earn his money by making players out of these guys instead of making them "scheme guys". These guys, especially the LBs and Secondary guys spent too much time thinking and not playing.... I kind of got mad yesterday flipping back and forth between our game and the Ravens game and seeing how Rex Ryan and Ray Lewis has that defense playing. They have a formula in Baltimore that allows them to lose one, two, or three guys on defense and not miss a beat. If not for Billick screwing up the offense up there, they would have had more than just one ring and we'd be talking about them like the Patriots. Maybe the coaches and players need to look at what they are doing up I-95, maybe they'd learn sumpin'...

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:19 pm
by SkinzCanes
I think we should take our best shots at getting Adams (draft) and Clements, and then a great DT. To me, the need for a MLB is great but not as great as the need for the other three; adding Adams and a stud DT will make Marshall's skills sufficient, especially if Rocky replaces Holman, which is a must. I'd love to get a third round pick back for Duckett and virtually anything for Arch.


I think that MLB should actually be a top priority this offseason. Unless we can get a truely dominating defensive tackle to take on more blockers, Marshall is just phyiscally incapable of doing the job. The game winning td run by Jackson is a perfect example of the problems that Marshall faces. It was his gap that Jackson ran right through. Marshall reacted slow to the play and then got pushed out of the way by a tight end I believe. He tried to arm tackle Jackson but had no chance. He should've been able to stop that play for a 1 or 2 yard gain but instead Jackson scored a td. It was the same story over and over with him Marshall yesterday. He's just too small to shed blockers.

I agree with Roybus that we should try as hard as possible to fix the defense from within, using players currently on the roster and the draft. However, I think that there are too many porblems that need to be fixed for us to be able to improve without free agency. I think that we can address defensive end through the draft in the first round (Gaines Adams) and could probably get a very good linebacker in the second round (Buster Davis from FSU). I think that free agency would be the best way to address the corner back position though.

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:00 am
by tcwest10
die cowboys die wrote:my idea on how to fix the defense is to take them all out back behind redskins park and shoot them in the head. then shoot them 20 or 30 more times each.

that ought to do it.


I'm pretty sure that you can be arrested for writing that.

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:49 pm
by USAFSkinFan
die cowboys die wrote:my idea on how to fix the defense is to take them all out back behind redskins park and shoot them in the head. then shoot them 20 or 30 more times each.

that ought to do it.


I can't believe you wrote that on Christmas day... little ticked off about that lump of coal, huh?... that's pretty disturbing...

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:08 pm
by Jeremy81
i really don't think it's that rediculous to want to sign london fletcher to a one year deal...i know he's old, but he's still playin well, he's been in greg williams system and knows it well. i think he would be cheap to acquire, and we can use our draft pick on the best available D-lineman...hopefully Gaines Adams...and if the rumors are true and we can sign Clements, then our defense has just improved greatly with just those three moves. not to mention we would NOT BE GIVING UP DRAFT PICKS!

wishful thinking...but we MIGHT even be able to get Jared Allen in FA and take best available player period in the draft

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:14 pm
by Smithian
We need to draft DEFENSE.

If we sign players, they will be old, system fit, TALENTLESS players. The only year that Gregg Williams signed talented players was back before the 2004 season. Since then, it has been only good system players who lack talent.

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:28 pm
by Jeremy81
Smithian wrote:We need to draft DEFENSE.

If we sign players, they will be old, system fit, TALENTLESS players. The only year that Gregg Williams signed talented players was back before the 2004 season. Since then, it has been only good system players who lack talent.


i agree with you but it's hard to draft defense when you only have 1 first day pick...we HAVE to get defensive players in FA this year....but hopefully for the last time

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:50 am
by Smithian
I mean draft defense as a mindset.

We need more speed and pure strength.

I do think our defenses would be five times better if Lemar marshall was still on the weakside and we had an a truly legit NFL MLB in the middle.

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:05 am
by Irn-Bru
I don't think that we'll need any D-linemen in the draft. Getting a defensive end might be a concern, but I think that Phillip Daniels has at least a good year or two left in him. Andre Carter is showing such promising signs that it wouldn't be wise to use a draft pick with the intention of replacing him.

As for defensive tackles, look at how well Golston has stepped up -- who could have predicted that before the season? Remember that we drafted another defensive tackle in front of Golston: Anthony Montgomery. Linemen can often take a few years to get into form, so I say be patient with Montgomery and let him develop. Salave'a and Griffin are by no means done yet, and they would be fine next year, especially with Golston (probably) starting and Montgomery coming off the bench to give them a breather.

As for who to draft, I agree with SkinzCanes that our LBs are the most troubled unit -- particularly at MLB. However, I'm of the opinion that it should only take one solid player to make this unit work. Picture this: a solid MLB acquired through FA or the draft, Washington on the strong side, and competition between Marshall and Rocky for the weakside starting spot. Marshall would, in my opinion, be a suitable backup at the MLB position, and we saw Rocky fill in pretty well for Washington just this past week. I think either would be a good starter at the weakside spot. In fact, I think that Washington, Marshall, and Rocky are all solid 'backers in their own right, and therefore acquiring a reliable MLB would really make that unit as talented as it needs to be.

The only other thing that scares me is our secondary. However, I'm not ready to write off all of those guys quite yet. Kenny Wright in particular has looked like the guy we were hoping for -- reliable nickel help. I still think that Carlos Rogers will turn out OK. I think our main problems will be (1) finding another solid starting CB -- I'm thinking that Springs, one way or another, simply won't work out for us next year, and (2) Assessing whether Fox can be the starter at SS, or whether Doughty is going to be something, or whether we need to acquire new personnel here.

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:17 am
by UK Skins Fan
tcwest10 wrote:
die cowboys die wrote:my idea on how to fix the defense is to take them all out back behind redskins park and shoot them in the head. then shoot them 20 or 30 more times each.

that ought to do it.


I'm pretty sure that you can be arrested for writing that.

No, take him out back and shoot him.

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:32 pm
by Hooligan
::puts the GM hat on::

The only FA moves I'd make would be acquiring London Fletcher and Nate Clements. If Clark wants back, grab him. Is Thomas available from the Ravens?

Start Clements and Rogers with Springs at nickel. Keep Taylor and Fox at FS and SS. (Clark would start over Fox)

Fletcher or Thomas (270) will solidify the MLB spot for a year or two while we groom a MLB from the draft.

Draft with the idea of getting the best available player from CB, MLB, or O-line (where there are only a couple good years left on the current unit as it stands) then look for project linemen.

::GM hat off::

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:54 pm
by USAFSkinFan
i think we need to create some turnovers... we should replace Marshall, Springs, Rogers and Archuleta with Pierce, Bailey, Smoot and Clark... that would give us 12 INTs and 3 forced fumbles this year instead of 2 INTs and 1 FF...

whose idea was it to let those "core" guys go?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:38 pm
by roybus14
Here's my starting defense for next season:

DE- Carter; Daniels (coach up Evans or look at Vonnie Holliday - Miami UFA)
DT- Golston, Griffin (Coach up Montgomery or look at KGB - Green Bay, Chris Kelsay - Buffalo, UFAs)
OLB - Pick up E.J. Henderson from Minnesota via FA (he's a UFA)
OLB - McIntosh
MLB - Washington
SS - Sean Taylor
FS - Shawn Springs
CB- Bring back Smoot or get Will James (UFA) from Philly; Resign and coach up Jimoh
Draft - Pick your poison: CB, MLB or DL...

Reasoning:

You can extend Springs' career another 3-5 years by moving him to the cover Safety spot; you can go after the younger E.J. Henderson at OLB and move Washington to MLB because he's strong enough and smart enough to make the conversion; bring back Smooth because he may be a cap casualty in Minny or go after Will James (former Will Allen) in Philly but not at a ridiculous price; move Rogers to Nickle corner and coach up Jimoh: you can draft a CB but it really depends upon getting Smoot or James, otherwise, we are stuck with Rogers and another Rookie CB; or draft a DT to go along side Golston by 2008; or draft a MLB and go with what we got until 2008....

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:17 pm
by SkinzCanes
I don't think that we'll need any D-linemen in the draft. Getting a defensive end might be a concern, but I think that Phillip Daniels has at least a good year or two left in him. Andre Carter is showing such promising signs that it wouldn't be wise to use a draft pick with the intention of replacing him.

As for defensive tackles, look at how well Golston has stepped up -- who could have predicted that before the season? Remember that we drafted another defensive tackle in front of Golston: Anthony Montgomery. Linemen can often take a few years to get into form, so I say be patient with Montgomery and let him develop. Salave'a and Griffin are by no means done yet, and they would be fine next year, especially with Golston (probably) starting and Montgomery coming off the bench to give them a breather.


I disagree with you on Daniels, but agree with your assesment of the other lineman. I think that adding another defensive end that can rush the passer is crucial if this defense is going to improve for next season. Even with Carter playing better these last few weeks, the line is still unable to get consistant pressure on the qb. With Springs' injury status, Rogers' struggles, and uncertainty over the starting SS going into next season, I think that a solid pass rush will go a long way in helping out the secondary. Even if we add another starting cb we still wont know what we'll get from Rogers/Springs next season.

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:40 pm
by JPM36
Draft Alan Branch.

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:55 am
by Smithian
All of a sudden, I have a bad feeling we'll draft an SS or CB... Positions where were already very expensive at...