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Who are the best ever Redskins?

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:52 pm
by StatKid
I was looking through the 70 Greatest Redskins list on the team website and it gave me an idea. I want to know who all of you think are the best Redskins ever. In your reply to this topic type in the name of the player as in order of the position. ONLY VOTE FOR 1 IN EACH POSITION PLEASE! I will post the results within the next week. Thanks. :D

BEST QB
Mark Rypien
Doug Williams
Joe Theismann
Sammy Baugh
Sonny Jurgenson

BEST RB
John Riggins
Earnest Byner
Larry Brown
Bill Dudley
Terry Allen
Stephen Davis

BEST WR
Art Monk
Ricky Sanders
Charley Taylor
Gary Clark

BEST TE
Don Warren
Jerry Smith

BEST OT
Jim Lachey
Mark May
George Starke
Ed Simmons
Joe Jacoby

BEST GUARD
Russ Grimm
Raleigh McKenzie
Vince Prumuto
Dick Stanfel

BEST CENTER
Jeff Bostic
Len Hauss
Al DeMao

BEST DEFENSIVE TACKLE
Dave Butz
Diron Talbert
Ron McDole

BEST DEFENSIVE END
Charles Mann
Dexter Manley
Bill Brundidge

BEST LINEBACKER
Sam Huff
Monte Coleman
Ken Harvey
Chris Hanburger
Rusty Tillman

BEST SAFTEY
Mark Murphy
Ken Houston
Brig Owens

BEST CONERBACK
Darrell Green
Pat Fischer
Mike Bass

BEST KICKER
Mark Moseley
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BEST PUNTER
Mike Bragg
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BEST KICK/PUNT RETURNER
Brian Mitchell
Mike Nelms

BEST COACH
George Allen
Joe Gibbs
Ray Flaherty

BEST SUPER BOWL TEAM
1983
1988
1992



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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:06 pm
by fredp45
Jacoby played OT not OG.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:09 pm
by StatKid
Thanks for pointing that out, let me correct that.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:21 pm
by Charm City Sports
BEST QB
Sammy Baugh

BEST RB
John Riggins

BEST WR
Art Monk

BEST TE
Don Warren

BEST OT
George Starke


BEST GUARD
Russ Grimm


BEST CENTER
Len Hauss


BEST DEFENSIVE TACKLE
Dave Butz


BEST DEFENSIVE END
Charles Mann


BEST LINEBACKER
Sam Huff


BEST SAFTEY
Ken Houston


BEST CONERBACK
Darrell Green


BEST KICKER
Mark Moseley


BEST PUNTER
Mike Bragg


BEST KICK/PUNT RETURNER
Mike Nelms

BEST COACH
Joe Gibbs


BEST SUPER BOWL TEAM
1982 (83 was the year it was played, but 83 we lost to the raiders, same can be said for 87 and 91)

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:32 pm
by fredp45
I will only vote for players I've seen play:

QB -- Sonny Jerguson
RB -- John Riggins (close -- Larry Brown)
WR -- Art Monk (close -- Gary Clark)
TE -- Jerry Smith
OT -- Jim Lachey (close -- Joe Jacoby)
OG -- Russ Grimm
C -- Len Hauss
DT -- Dave Butz
DE -- Charles Mann
LB -- Chris Hanburger
S -- Ken Houston
CB -- Darrell Green
K -- Mark Moseley
P -- Mike Bragg
Ret -- Mike Nelmes (close -- Brian Mitchell)
Coach -- Joe Gibbs
SB Team -- 1983 (close -- every win was sweet!!!!)

My picks don't indicate that this player would be the best player now. I rated them based on how they did at the time they played. A good example is Chris Hanburger -- he was too small to play LB today but was a great player in his day. I never saw Sam Huff play, except in clips.

Harvey had some nice years and could play today but we also had Wilbur Marshall and he played very well for us too. Monte Coleman probably wasn't even one of the top 10 LBs of all time but he was a great team player for us. He was not a starter but was a super sub and ST player. If you've never seen what he looked like back in the 80's -- you'd be shocked how cut he was (for his era). What an unbelievable athletic build he had...wow! He was a freak. I have to say, I did wonder if he used supplements.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:15 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
fredp45 wrote:I will only vote for players I've seen play:

QB -- Sonny Jerguson
RB -- John Riggins (close -- Larry Brown)
WR -- Art Monk (close -- Gary Clark)
TE -- Jerry Smith
OT -- Jim Lachey (close -- Joe Jacoby)
OG -- Russ Grimm
C -- Len Hauss
DT -- Dave Butz
DE -- Charles Mann
LB -- Chris Hanburger
S -- Ken Houston
CB -- Darrell Green
K -- Mark Moseley
P -- Mike Bragg
Ret -- Mike Nelmes (close -- Brian Mitchell)
Coach -- Joe Gibbs
SB Team -- 1983 (close -- every win was sweet!!!!)

My picks don't indicate that this player would be the best player now. I rated them based on how they did at the time they played. A good example is Chris Hanburger -- he was too small to play LB today but was a great player in his day. I never saw Sam Huff play, except in clips.

Harvey had some nice years and could play today but we also had Wilbur Marshall and he played very well for us too. Monte Coleman probably wasn't even one of the top 10 LBs of all time but he was a great team player for us. He was not a starter but was a super sub and ST player. If you've never seen what he looked like back in the 80's -- you'd be shocked how cut he was (for his era). What an unbelievable athletic build he had...wow! He was a freak. I have to say, I did wonder if he used supplements.

No disrespect to the other OTs, but you are totally right on Lachey. The guy was on another plane. He gave up almost no sacks, QB rushes, anything for years. Including the 91 season when the Hogs allowed 9 sacks in the entire season. Including playoffs (and winning the Superbowl).

BTW, Jacoby did play some guard too, but he did usually play tackle.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:51 pm
by ArizonaHOG
QB-Joe T.
RB-Riggins
WR-Monk
TE-Warren
G-Grimm
OT-Lachey
C-Bostic
DT-Butz
DE-Mann
LB-Coleman
S-Houston
CB-Green
K-Lohmiller
P-Bragg
Return-Mitchell
Coach-Gibbs
Best SB Team-92

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:42 pm
by Fanforever
Rom McBole was a DE. I don't see how you could have left Wilbur Marshall of your list at LB.

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:58 pm
by welch
Rom McBole was a DE. I don't see how you could have left Wilbur Marshall of your list at LB.


...and Brundige was a DT.

Don't forget Bobby Mitchell at WR.

Choices? Most of them are impossible. Baugh or Jurgy? Mitchell and Taylor or Monk and Clark (and Sanders?)? Riggins or Brown?

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:10 am
by Redskin in Canada
What kind of self-respecting Redskins fan would leave Robert Cornelius Mitchell out of this list?

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/membe ... yer_id=152

Come on people! Learn and study about the best players in the history of your team.

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:22 am
by StatKid
Redskin in Canada wrote:What kind of self-respecting Redskins fan would leave Robert Cornelius Mitchell out of this list?

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/membe ... yer_id=152

Come on people! Learn and study about the best players in the history of your team.


I can't go on the computer every day of my life, since I have a life and all. So I don't know a couple of players. So what? Just deal with it. I'm not obsessed with the history of the team so why don't you go whine to someone else.

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:47 pm
by Irn-Bru
StatKid wrote:
Redskin in Canada wrote:What kind of self-respecting Redskins fan would leave Robert Cornelius Mitchell out of this list?

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/membe ... yer_id=152

Come on people! Learn and study about the best players in the history of your team.


I can't go on the computer every day of my life, since I have a life and all. So I don't know a couple of players. So what? Just deal with it. I'm not obsessed with the history of the team so why don't you go whine to someone else.



You shouldn't be surprised at what RiC wrote, since you did start a "Best Redskins Ever?" thread. If you're not interested in history, then why presume that you know it well enough by giving the thread that title? My 2 cents

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:09 pm
by Redskin in Canada
StatKid wrote:I can't go on the computer every day of my life, since I have a life and all.

This is a quote to remember in the future. From now on, every time I do not know enough about something, I will pull it off. ROTFALMAO

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:37 pm
by StatKid
sweet, im going to be quoted. :D wait that's not a good thing

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:16 pm
by nnskinsfan
Like someone else mentioned, I'm only voting for ones I've seen play.

BEST QB
Sonny Jurgenson

BEST RB
Larry Brown

BEST WR
Art Monk

BEST TE
Jerry Smith

BEST OT
Joe Jacoby

BEST GUARD
Russ Grimm

BEST CENTER
Len Hauss

BEST DEFENSIVE TACKLE
Dave Butz

BEST DEFENSIVE END
Charles Mann

BEST LINEBACKER
Chris Hanburger

BEST SAFTEY
Ken Houston

BEST CONERBACK
Darrell Green

BEST KICKER
Mark Moseley

BEST PUNTER
Mike Bragg

BEST KICK/PUNT RETURNER
Mike Nelms

BEST COACH
Joe Gibbs

BEST SUPER BOWL TEAM
1983

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:28 pm
by SkinsJock
I have given some thought to this and just cannot in all honesty pick one player at quite a few positions, so, I will read the "entries" with mixed feelings - I will say it is great to see the names of so many who provided so much pleasure over the years.

But to not include so many deserving players makes this very hard for a fan of only 30+ years.

Re: Who are the best ever Redskins?

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:50 am
by JansenFan
BEST QB
Sammy Baugh

BEST RB
John Riggins

BEST WR
Tie: Bobby Mitchell / Art Monk

BEST TE
Jerry Smith

BEST OT
Jim Lachey (Sorry Jake, but Jimmy here would be HOF material if he'd lasted longer).

BEST GUARD
Russ Grimm

BEST CENTER
Len Hauss

BEST DEFENSIVE TACKLE
Dave Butz - (Might be Griffin when all's said and done).

BEST DEFENSIVE END
Dexter Manley

BEST LINEBACKER
Sam Huff

BEST SAFTEY
Ken Houston

BEST CONERBACK
Darrell Green

BEST KICKER
Mark Moseley

BEST PUNTER
Sammy Baugh (Still 2nd best season average EVER).

BEST KICK/PUNT RETURNER
Brian Mitchell

BEST COACH
Joe Gibbs

BEST SUPER BOWL TEAM
1992 (although it was probably the one that lost to Oakland ;furious; )