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Question 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ZYY5x7uxM

Question 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c6tf2j_02E

Question 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NkBkWP2gck

DISCUSS

They also talked to Gregg Williams, Marcus Washington, umm, and there were quick interviews from inside the locker room with Springs, Daniels, Moss, and Duckett.

The show in its entirety re-airs at 1:30 a.m. on Comcast Sportsnet. I have to say its one of the better shows I have seen honestly.

Tough questions but somebody has to ask them.

I'm glad he knows now how we feel now.

Maybe he should just pray harder.

It's about time someone asked the right questions. Cudos to Czab and I can't wait until he comes on the Sports Reporters today.

If, and a big IF, this were N.Y., Chicago, or L.A., the media would have called for Brunell's head after Game 3 and Gibbs' head, HOF or not, after the game 4 or 5.....

The media around here are dancing around this crap and afraid to ask the right questions after each debacle.

SlkyCaramel wrote:Question 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ZYY5x7uxM

Question 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c6tf2j_02E

Question 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NkBkWP2gck

DISCUSS

They also talked to Gregg Williams, Marcus Washington, umm, and there were quick interviews from inside the locker room with Springs, Daniels, Moss, and Duckett.

The show in its entirety re-airs at 1:30 a.m. on Comcast Sportsnet. I have to say its one of the better shows I have seen honestly.

I watched at 1:30 after I finished my homework, and as sioon as Kelli Johnson finished talking to him and before she sent it back to the studio, Comcast cut to commercial. When they came back, they were talking about the question, but never showed the actual footage.

Well Im glad somebody said something to him. Gibbs wasn't there to protect him. He better be glad Brian didnt get to him.

JansenFan wrote:

SlkyCaramel wrote:Question 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ZYY5x7uxM

Question 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c6tf2j_02E

Question 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NkBkWP2gck

DISCUSS

They also talked to Gregg Williams, Marcus Washington, umm, and there were quick interviews from inside the locker room with Springs, Daniels, Moss, and Duckett.

The show in its entirety re-airs at 1:30 a.m. on Comcast Sportsnet. I have to say its one of the better shows I have seen honestly.

I watched at 1:30 after I finished my homework, and as sioon as Kelli Johnson finished talking to him and before she sent it back to the studio, Comcast cut to commercial. When they came back, they were talking about the question, but never showed the actual footage.

Can that possibly mean they edited it out -- and if so, could it have been done at the insistance of the Redskins?

Then again, the live show went from about 4:15 to 6:00 and the rerun version is set in a strict 90-minute time slot. So there has to be some editing. Why they snipped what seemed to be the most interesting part of the entire show is still a viable question.

Well obviously they edited it out, and who knows whether it was at the request of the Redskins or because they thought they looked bad to the players.

From my personal experience with the RFO, I'd guess the first.

JansenFan wrote:Well obviously they edited it out, and who knows whether it was at the request of the Redskins or because they thought they looked bad to the players.

From my personal experience with the RFO, I'd guess the first.

You could tell it got under his skin but the question really wasn't all that bad, it was moreso the timing. But I was pissed at the moment and they could have screamed "you suck" in his ear and I would have smiled behind the tears.

On the radio show, they just played the audio of the interview -- and they are quite aware that it's been edited from the replays (laughing through it all).

It's obviously a hard question to ask an athlete but I give Czab props for having the stones to do it. Maybe those three questions should have been put to Joe Gibbs instead. Oh, but nobody in the press conferences has the stones to do it out of fear of being barred. If this was New York, Philly, or any other major media market, those questions would have been asked a long time ago and again and again until Gibbs made a change.

It's like this team and Joe Gibbs get's a free pass on this from the media in this area. Then Czaban, who I don't always agree with, finally asks the question and everybody is in an uproar. The decision to continue playing Mark Brunell at QB is hurting this team's ability to score points. I won't say hurt the entire team because the defense right now sucks too but riding this old horse does nothing for this offense and it's ability to sustain time consuming drives and score points.

Mark Brunnell might not be playing well, but do you honestly think he's doing it on purpose? Does he deserve to be humiliated on television? It's Gibbs choice to keep Brunnell in the game.

Mark Brunnell is a GOOD MAN and a CLASS ACT in a a league where most people aren't. He's put up with more than any of us can understand. Those reporters should be going after Gibbs, not Brunnell. They should be ashamed of themselves.

And for the guy who said he'd hit Brunnell with a shovel if he saw him on the street, I honestly hope you're joking because that is the most ignorant and stupid thing I've ever heard. If Gibbs put you in at quarterback we wouldn't score a point, but it wouldn't be your fault. Brunnell is doing what he can; the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff.

VASkin27 wrote:Mark Brunnell might not be playing well, but do you honestly think he's doing it on purpose? Does he deserve to be humiliated on television? It's Gibbs choice to keep Brunnell in the game.

Mark Brunnell is a GOOD MAN and a CLASS ACT in a a league where most people aren't. He's put up with more than any of us can understand. Those reporters should be going after Gibbs, not Brunnell. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Whoa! That kind of support for our QB won't stand here!

chaddukes wrote:

VASkin27 wrote:Mark Brunnell might not be playing well, but do you honestly think he's doing it on purpose? Does he deserve to be humiliated on television? It's Gibbs choice to keep Brunnell in the game.

Mark Brunnell is a GOOD MAN and a CLASS ACT in a a league where most people aren't. He's put up with more than any of us can understand. Those reporters should be going after Gibbs, not Brunnell. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Whoa! That kind of support for our QB won't stand here!

I support Brunell 100 percent and would never hope for him to become injured. But this thing with keeping Brunell in even as he becomes completely ineffective and the team hits 3-6 simply doesn't make sense. Our offense has scored a total of 9 points in the last three NFC east games, and IMHO we have the best set of receivers and runners in the league. You have to be blind if you can't see that Brunell needs to be benched, even it is just for a few games.

old-timer wrote:

chaddukes wrote:

VASkin27 wrote:Mark Brunnell might not be playing well, but do you honestly think he's doing it on purpose? Does he deserve to be humiliated on television? It's Gibbs choice to keep Brunnell in the game.

Mark Brunnell is a GOOD MAN and a CLASS ACT in a a league where most people aren't. He's put up with more than any of us can understand. Those reporters should be going after Gibbs, not Brunnell. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Whoa! That kind of support for our QB won't stand here!

I support Brunell 100 percent and would never hope for him to become injured. But this thing with keeping Brunell in even as he becomes completely ineffective and the team hits 3-6 simply doesn't make sense. Our offense has scored a total of 9 points in the last three NFC east games, and IMHO we have the best set of receivers and runners in the league. You have to be blind if you can't see that Brunell needs to be benched, even it is just for a few games.

Old-Timer, I completely agree with you, but you missed my point. Brunnell is playing poorly, but it isn't his decision to be in the game. And those reporters have no right to humiliate him on television for a decision that isn't his. Three weeks ago we were singing his praises as he completed his first 21 passes...and now we want him humiliated.

BRUNNELL SHOULD BE BENCHED, but he should not be disrespected. He is a role model for the rest of the NFL, and he is a good and decent man.

VASkin27 wrote:Mark Brunnell is a GOOD MAN and a CLASS ACT in a a league where most people aren't. He's put up with more than any of us can understand. Those reporters should be going after Gibbs, not Brunnell. They should be ashamed of themselves.

I agree with you that Mark is a class act and a very decent man. I disagree on the second part. In a free society, all questions, even the very uncomfortable ones, MUST be asked. I do not think that it is Joe Gibbs sole responsibility even if he has the last word on it. Others, including Brunell, share on that as well.

If I was Brunell and believed in myself, I would try to play and never give up until I get kicked out from the starting line up. If I had lost my confidence, I would retire plain and simple. Those are dumb questions but they MUST be asked. Hell, Al Saunders and Joe Gibbs should be answering them too!

WE have a mess in our hands and -everybody- knows it. Why should the media types not do their job due to the little information they get from our front office, headcoach and about everybody else?

VASkin27 wrote:Mark Brunnell might not be playing well, but do you honestly think he's doing it on purpose? Does he deserve to be humiliated on television? It's Gibbs choice to keep Brunnell in the game.

Mark Brunnell is a GOOD MAN and a CLASS ACT in a a league where most people aren't.

I hear you. I agree that he is a Good Man and a Class Act but this is still a business where you are asked questions. I think that he was asked the question because his Head Coach refuses to answer the questions. So the next step is to go to the players when the HC doesn't want to answer the question(s).

I don't think that he was humilated on T.V. He handled himself as the Class Act that you said he was. I don't know if the press around here are scared to ask Joe Gibbs these type of questions in the post-game out of fear of being barred or what. But I will tell you this, if this were New York or Philly, those questions that you think humilated Brunell would have been asked of him and Joe Gibbs a long time ago and as long as what we are seeing now continues, they would get them every week. The NY and Philly media would have blasted them on the front page or the back page every week.

Loyalty. Joe Gibbs is fiercely loyal to Brunell but it is ruining both of their reputations. Brunell is a good guy and class act but he is a good guy and class act that is too fragile and can't get it done anymore. That's not to say anything bad about Mark but every athlete comes to the end of their career and can't get it done anymore. Jordan, Gretzky, Elway, the list goes on. They get old, can't do it anymore and retire. It's time for Mark to do the same. He WAS great in Jacksonville but the injuries and father time have caught up to him.

VASkin27 wrote:Old-Timer, I completely agree with you, but you missed my point. Brunnell is playing poorly, but it isn't his decision to be in the game. And those reporters have no right to humiliate him on television for a decision that isn't his.

OK, you're mostly right, but Brunell could fake an injury or just tell Joe to start The Kid. He can't really be thinking he's helping the team at this point.

VASkin27 wrote:Old-Timer, I completely agree with you, but you missed my point. Brunnell is playing poorly, but it isn't his decision to be in the game. And those reporters have no right to humiliate him on television for a decision that isn't his. Three weeks ago we were singing his praises as he completed his first 21 passes...and now we want him humiliated.

BRUNNELL SHOULD BE BENCHED, but he should not be disrespected. He is a role model for the rest of the NFL, and he is a good and decent man.

Okay, I see now what you're saying, and that's fine. Yes, it's all on Gibbs.

But what was that crap that Brunell was saying about 'guys get injured, and hopefully we play better'? Was he intimating that it was the play of the other offensive players that was at fault, or the fault of the defense? Because if he is, that's some serious DENIAL. If Gibbs and Brunell are feeding each other that stuff, everyone who cares about the Redskins is being affected, not just those two, and they need to answer the tough questions, not get a free pass from the media.

old-timer wrote:I support Brunell 100 percent and would never hope for him to become injured. But this thing with keeping Brunell in even as he becomes completely ineffective and the team hits 3-6 simply doesn't make sense. Our offense has scored a total of 9 points in the last three NFC east games, and IMHO we have the best set of receivers and runners in the league. You have to be blind if you can't see that Brunell needs to be benched, even it is just for a few games.

Well, now that we are 3 and 6, lets see what happens. I'm not opposed to benching him once we are out of it.....but I don't think that Campbell is going to fare better. Brunell is still the most capable QB we have. You can scream "Bench Him" all day, but until there is a better option...or until you are eliminated you have to stay with the guy who gives you the best chance to win.

Now, if Campbell comes in and puts up 12 TD's and 1500 yards in six games...I'll agree that I was wrong. But the reality is that the coaches and the players don't think that he is ready. And if he were to come in and play yesterday against the Eagles in Philly, in the rain, with the season on the line......he wouldn't have done any better than Brunell.

As for our Receivers and Runnners being the best.....I like to think so as well, but you are your record, and you are your performance....and they haven't performed. Moss has had one game. Portis looks like he is too injured to run. The line isn't opening holes......Its like watching the Cardinals.....great talent.......Now what?

Brunell isn't great.....but he is usually consistent. You can usually expect him to be accurate in the short throws, to make one long pass, to get a TD, and no pics, and to pick up about 200 yards. Yesterday was a bad performance. It would have been hard for any QB under those conditions. He didn't step up when needed......but neither did anyone else!

If you want to play the blame game thats fine.....but be an equal opportunity blamer. Me, I'm rooting for my team to win against the Bucs. Even if that means that we have to wait one more week to see Campbell.

Chad

We should have a very INTERESTING press conference by Joe Gibbs later today. I hope the media is RELENTLESS in their questioning and that Joe comes up CLEAN with very strong answers.

It is time Joe.

Redskin in Canada wrote:We should have a very INTERESTING press conference by Joe Gibbs later today. I hope the media is RELENTLESS in their questioning and that Joe comes up CLEAN with very strong answers.

It is time Joe.

There appears to be only one song and only one dance that they know in Ashburn.

Just be prepared to hear/see it again today.

chaddukes wrote:

Now, if Campbell comes in and puts up 12 TD's and 1500 yards in six games...I'll agree that I was wrong. But the reality is that the coaches and the players don't think that he is ready. And if he were to come in and play yesterday against the Eagles in Philly, in the rain, with the season on the line......he wouldn't have done any better than Brunell.


Chad

What QB sitting on the bench and not getting reps with the starters, is ready??? Romo, Rivers, Young, Gradkowski, Lineart, etc. were/are young QBs that nobody really thought was ready but they are not complete bums. Alot of people act as if Jason Campbell is some high school or college kid that just arrived in Redskin Park this year. For just as many people that don't think he is not ready, there are just as many that say put him in and let's see.

I was listening to Sportstalk 980 today and a caller made a good point. Play Campbell now to see what we got instead of waiting until next year, start him and go 0-5 before we realize that he is not ready. Jason Campbell has not started an NFL game and he will make mistakes. But people act as if he is not supposed to and he should be ready to lead this team to the Super Bowl now. Put him in for the remainder of the season so that he can get valuable game experience, really learn this offense, and really learn how to read defenses in "live" game action. What do we have to lose at this point??? Let the kid go through his going pains now so that he will be ready to go and understand the offense, reading defenses, and be ready for the "game speed" of the NFL.