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You Be the Judge: Why did we sign Archuleta??
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:45 pm
by The Hogster
I hope Archuleta turns it around, as I would never root against one of our own. But I'm curious what you all think we planned for Arch. 1niksider and I have been having a friendly debate and would like some input.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:50 pm
by 1niksder
He was brought in to be a run stopper down in the box and to pressure the QB on passing downs,
Didn't see that option so I have nothing to pick.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:57 pm
by The Hogster
1niksder wrote:He was brought in to be a run stopper down in the box and to pressure the QB on passing downs,
Didn't see that option so I have nothing to pick.
Hey, John Kerry...answer the question. Was he supposed to start? Be a dime or nickle Safety? Or backup? Ah, how quickly we backtrack.
Keep in mind, you've already answered this question in another thread. You said he was supposed to be a Nickle or Dime Safety since Prielou was supposed to start.
That my friend IS an option...and I wrote it just for you...actually its your exact wording.
1niksider wrote:Prioleau came into the year as the starter alongside Taylor with Springs and Rogers on the corners. AA would be like a nickle or dime S.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:10 pm
by 1niksder
You gave the Nickle/Dime option of my opinion and you sqeezed it into two option that basically say the same thing.
To replace Clark would mean that he was replacing the starter, did you THINK about that?
Had you enter a option that shows where I stand on the topic I'd more than gladly pick one.
It now appears you never knew what you were aurging to start with, which explains a lot.
Don't bother with a reply. it'll be as useful as the rest of your post
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:14 pm
by The Hogster
1niksder wrote:You gave the Nickle/Dime option of my opinion and you sqeezed it into two option that basically say the same thing.
To replace Clark would mean that he was replacing the starter, did you THINK about that?
Had you enter a option that shows where I stand on the topic I'd more than gladly pick one.
It now appears you never knew what you were aurging to start with, which explains a lot.
Don't bother with a reply. it'll be as useful as the rest of your post
It's your quote, not mine.
I'm sorry that your own words aren't what you meant.
By tyhe way, run stopper and pass rusher aren't positions. That also doesn't answer the question of whehter he would start or be a dime/nickle guy.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:20 pm
by 1niksder
The Hogster wrote:1niksder wrote:You gave the Nickle/Dime option of my opinion and you sqeezed it into two option that basically say the same thing.
To replace Clark would mean that he was replacing the starter, did you THINK about that?
Had you enter a option that shows where I stand on the topic I'd more than gladly pick one.
It now appears you never knew what you were aurging to start with, which explains a lot.
Don't bother with a reply. it'll be as useful as the rest of your post
It's your quote, not mine.
I'm sorry that your own words aren't what you meant.
You're really making yourself look bad here, I advised you before to quit while your behind.
Here's what I said :
1niksder wrote:SkinzCanes wrote:
If you took the time to read whats been posted you'd have a idea of what I'm talking about. You may enjoy posting the same thing over and over but I don't, therefore I won't
I've seen you post about how AA should be given more time and how he wasn't brought in here to be a cover guy. But I have yet to see you post about why he should've been brought in at the expense of losing Ryan Clark. I would love to see that argument.
One had nothing to do with the other Clark would have still been the starter and AA would have been what he is becoming (
a guy that you could bring in and put in the box for run defense or to rush the passer). They'll be times this week or in the near future when you will see Vincent, Taylor and Archuleta in the game at the same time. He was brought in to fill a roll, just because Clark signed with the Steelers doesn't mean he was brought in the replace him.
Common sense tells you that the weren't going to be playing the same rolls. After the signing of AA the Skins were still trying to sign Clark, WHY?
maybe because they knew what they wanted to do with both of them (together). One had three ints last year and the other has 3 for his career. Clark was a Strong Safety here but now plays Free Safety, we already had a FS so maybe that had something to do with it, I don't know. I know a strong safety walked off the streets and in less than a month is the starter, and no one in the front office was surprised.
That comprehension thing really gives to trouble.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:22 pm
by 1niksder
I really want to walk away from both of these threads but you keep falling deeper and I can't wait until you hit the bottom
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:22 pm
by The Hogster
So lets try this again high speed. Starter, or not? I am asking you if he was signed to be a starter or nickle/dime safety. Saying he was signed to pass rush and stop the run does not answer the question.
Pass rusher and run stopper are roles...not positions.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:24 pm
by 1niksder
The Hogster wrote:So lets try this again high speed. Starter, or not?
Read my post, you can't go though life hoping for one word answers. Understanding what you read is a very important tool for a English Major
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:24 pm
by riggofan
I was looking for:
D) Because he was a big name free agent. And we sign as many of those as possible regardless of need/talent.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:26 pm
by 1niksder
riggofan wrote:I was looking for:
D) Because he was a big name free agent. And we sign as many of those as possible regardless of need/talent.
Limited minds are forced to create polls that have limited choices
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:28 pm
by The Hogster
1niksder wrote:The Hogster wrote:So lets try this again high speed. Starter, or not?
Read my post, you can't go though life hoping for one word answers. Understanding what you read is a very important tool for a English Major
Ahh isn't this cute. niksider all fwustrated and name callin"
John Kerry...starter or not? You can pass rush / be a run stopper while being either a starter or a backup. You're not answering the question...its really simple.
Was he supposed to do those things as our starting safety, or as a nickle or dime defensive back?
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:29 pm
by 1niksder
Two pages - 50+ views and 1 vote
WOW
Someone help thiss dude out
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:37 pm
by 1niksder
The Hogster wrote:1niksder wrote:The Hogster wrote:So lets try this again high speed. Starter, or not?
Read my post, you can't go though life hoping for one word answers. Understanding what you read is a very important tool for a English Major
Ahh isn't this cute. niksider all fwustrated and name callin"
All this time I thought you had a reading comprehension problem, I was totally wrong. That's my mistake I'm sure you'd have no problem comprehending if only you could read.
I don't get frustrated (if that's what you were spelling) and if I had called you a name you wouldn't have understand it and I wouldn't want to waste my time pointing it out to you. But could you show us where I called you anything other than what you say you are.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:47 pm
by 1fan4ramsey
riggofan wrote:I was looking for:
D) Because he was a big name free agent. And we sign as many of those as possible regardless of need/talent.
I'm going with "D"
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:53 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
The Hogster wrote:1niksder wrote:You gave the Nickle/Dime option of my opinion and you sqeezed it into two option that basically say the same thing.
To replace Clark would mean that he was replacing the starter, did you THINK about that?
Had you enter a option that shows where I stand on the topic I'd more than gladly pick one.
It now appears you never knew what you were aurging to start with, which explains a lot.
Don't bother with a reply. it'll be as useful as the rest of your post
It's your quote, not mine.
I'm sorry that your own words aren't what you meant.
By tyhe way, run stopper and pass rusher aren't positions. That also doesn't answer the question of whehter he would start or be a dime/nickle guy.
Your quiz is childish. If you wanted to be fair, then you would have each agreed on your position and posted the quiz. You chose the words you wanted from a long chain from 1niksder and posted that with your own chosen words. He didn't do that to you, and he could have. You wanted to "prove" you were right, whether you were or not.
And you say you have "logic" on your side? Please.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:05 pm
by 1niksder
The same logic that says we don't pay a starter the money AA is making, but when I point out our #3 WR makes the same money, He points out ARE started the last game so he wasn't brought in to be a situation (back-up) player. The fact Moss was hurt never crossed his mine.
The fact that as soon as we picked up a suitable SS and get both CB back AA went to a back up role was totally missed by his logic
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:43 pm
by old-timer
One of the Post reporters wrote that Archuleta was hand-picked by Greg Williams. This was not some willy-nilly signing. I presume that Williams wanted to use him as a run-stopper and blitzer in the Alvin Walton mold, with coverage skills de-emphasized. At this point I think Williams is realizing he made a mistake, as Archuleta is clearly even more of a coverage liability than he thought.
Another reason why coaches should not have control over player selection and scouting. Gibbs did much better, IMHO, when Beatherd was here.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:27 pm
by 1niksder
old-timer wrote:One of the Post reporters wrote that Archuleta was hand-picked by Greg Williams. This was not some willy-nilly signing. I presume that Williams wanted to use him as a run-stopper and blitzer in the Alvin Walton mold, with coverage skills de-emphasized. At this point I think Williams is realizing he made a mistake, as Archuleta is clearly even more of a coverage liability than he thought.
Another reason why coaches should not have control over player selection and scouting. Gibbs did much better, IMHO, when Beatherd was here.
Sounds familiar but it's not a option
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:30 am
by HEROHAMO
He was brought in to be the starting strong safety! Nickel,Dime, 43,34,46 it dosent matter he has the talent to play on every down and that is what he was brought in to do. He has had a slow start so far. I am sure that he can turn it around though. But to answer your question he was brought in to be an every down Strong safety.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:56 am
by UK Skins Fan
He was obviously signed because Snyder is alphabetising his collection of NFL players, and needed an AA to get started. He couldn't find any aardvarks in the NFLPA.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:44 am
by The Hogster
Hmm...nobody chose option 2? Isn't that a surprise. That was 1niksider's answer...he won't man up and vote though. 15 votes, and not one person thinks he was brought in to be a nickle or dime safety. Ooops...one of our esteemed, super-smart guys is certain he was...
1niksider wrote:
Prioleau came into the year as the starter alongside Taylor with Springs and Rogers on the corners. AA would be like a nickle or dime S. Peirson went down and Archuleta was bumped up to a spot that he hadn't signed to play and probably got little work at in the off-season.
According to sources...**cough** 1niksider...we signed Arch to be a nickle or dime safety...and beware, anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about.
I won't even point out the fact that the defense is in Nickle and Dime in passing situations....so it's kind of backwards to say he was brought in to be a run stopper on passing downs. But anyway....I dunno what I'm talking about..let me stop now while I'm behind.
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:02 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
The Hogster wrote:Hmm...nobody chose option 2? Isn't that a surprise. That was 1niksider's answer...he won't man up and vote though. 15 votes, and not one person thinks he was brought in to be a nickle or dime safety. Ooos...one of our esteemed, super-smart guys is certain he was...
We're not worthy...the great Throw-deani does it again.
1niksider wrote:Prioleau came into the year as the starter alongside Taylor with Springs and Rogers on the corners. AA would be like a nickle or dime S. Peirson went down and Archuleta was bumped up to a spot that he hadn't signed to play and probably got little work at in the off-season.
According to sources...**cough** 1niksider...we signed Arch to be a nickle or dime safety...and beware, anyone who disagrees doesn't know what they're talking about.
You weren't man enough to put his answer in your quiz. Are you really so insecure you can't risk losing the quiz and need to rig the result? Is that how Wahoos do it?
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:10 pm
by The Hogster
This is hilarious. His answer is in there. HE SAID he was brought in to be a nickle or dime safety. Allow me to refresh your recollection.
1niksider wrote:
Prioleau came into the year as the starter alongside Taylor with Springs and Rogers on the corners. AA would be like a nickle or dime S. Peirson went down and Archuleta was bumped up to a spot that he hadn't signed to play and probably got little work at in the off-season.
So how can you say I didn't put his choice in there, when Option 2 is HIS WORDs Verbatim.
Rigged??? You're pathetic...you can only vote once genius. Ever occur to you that no one else agrees with that nonsense. You should consider it b/c I had better things to do on a Friday night than rig the poll.
Is that how you do it? When you lose...just say the winner rigged it?
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:19 pm
by 1niksder
The Hogster wrote:ROTFALMAO
This is hilarious. His answer is in there. HE SAID he was brought in to be a nickle or dime safety. Allow me to refresh your recollection.
1niksider wrote:Prioleau came into the year as the starter alongside Taylor with Springs and Rogers on the corners. AA would be like a nickle or dime S. Peirson went down and Archuleta was bumped up to a spot that he hadn't signed to play and probably got little work at in the off-season.
So how can you say I didn't put his choice in there, when Option 2 is HIS WORDs Verbatim.
Rigged??? You're pathetic...you can only vote once genius. Ever occur to you that no one else agrees with that nonsense. You should consider it b/c I had better things to do on a Friday night than rig the poll.
Don't worry on day you'll fall and hit your head again then everything will slowly come back into focus. No comment on if you'll ever have a porductive life though, so continue to use the safety precautions the doctors advised should and IF your brain actually crankback up.
And stay out of my PM box with this BS