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Riggins said he believes that in contrast to players from back in the day current players are a bunch of pansies. Theres always a new rule protecting someone from something.

I personally think that offensive players need to start wearing skirts on the field, mainly WR's and QB's.

I feel bad for Trent Green but if he had been playing the Skins I would have wanted someone to knock his block off. It infuriates me when QB's scramble on us multiple times per drive because they know they CAN'T/WONT get hit. The defender will just touch him down and he'll be ok. I wish Trent had just gotten a boo-boo instead of a concussion but on the other hand, I would have wanted my player to nail him too.

I'd be willing to accept 1 personal foul call per game from my defense to set the tone for the game.

the rules that have been instituted to protect players are designed to stop major injuries resulting in lost money and a drain on the NFL.

They are trying to protect against losing big names and keys to big name teams.

Its not that the players are wimps. In fact, with all the steroids they use now id say these guys are way tougher. They can have major knee explosions like carson palmer last year, and after a surgery or two and a bit of growth hormone, go right back out and play.

I can see how the old guys could say, "yeah we used to play both ways on the field and never had oxygen on the bench! you wimps! when i was your age i used to have to walk up hill to school, both ways!! In my day, my bike had no seat!! When i was your age we didnt have shoes! We would wrap newspaper around our feet!!"

But the truth is, the guys in the NFL are bigger stronger and faster than ever before. To take hits from these guys puts you life at risk and to make a comment that these guys are wimps is outside the bounds of reality.

A lot of the 'old-school' players, who took and dished out a ton of abuse to each other, are in seriously declining health from such play (and from the rampant steriod abuse that was prevalent back then). A few years back some sports website (SI? ESPN?) had a feature article on Mike Webster, the long-time Steelers center and a HOFer. He admitted he'd used steriods for years back before it was banned, and it had seriously impacted his health. He was also borderline delusional because of all the head slaps he'd taken from defensive lineman back when that move was legal. ECGs of his brain actually demonstrated cranial trauma. I remember reading an interview with Mike Singletary, Chicago's legendary linebacker, and he said now, when he wakes up in the morning, almost everything hurts. Having read about some of these players in their later years, I don't mind that the league is trying harder to protect the long-term health of its players.

Yes, I would say todays' players are "weaker" than say the players from the 70's or whatever, however I believe that an allstar team of todays players would kill the allstars from the 70's.

The Competition I believe is extremely harder nowadays, not to mention Football is now a year round sport.

Players devote every day of their life to Football now so they can be in the best shape possible.

However, with todays new technology and painkillers and stuff, I don't think being hurt today, hurts as much as it did 30 years ago.

Players these days look out for their future and want to protect themselves and avoid any kind of injury that will affect them long-term for the rest of their lives.

If you wanna know what I'm talking about, just look up John Mackey and Jim Otto.

The "old" guys used to be able to take down a runner anyway they could. Today it seems as though you are teetering on a personal foul for hitting a guy hard.

Cappster wrote:The "old" guys used to be able to take down a runner anyway they could. Today it seems as though you are teetering on a personal foul for hitting a guy hard.

it's the only way they can keep sean taylor from killing people......literally.

TincoSkin wrote:the rules that have been instituted to protect players are designed to stop major injuries resulting in lost money and a drain on the NFL.

They are trying to protect against losing big names and keys to big name teams.

Its not that the players are wimps. In fact, with all the steroids they use now id say these guys are way tougher. They can have major knee explosions like carson palmer last year, and after a surgery or two and a bit of growth hormone, go right back out and play.

I can see how the old guys could say, "yeah we used to play both ways on the field and never had oxygen on the bench! you wimps! when i was your age i used to have to walk up hill to school, both ways!! In my day, my bike had no seat!! When i was your age we didnt have shoes! We would wrap newspaper around our feet!!"

But the truth is, the guys in the NFL are bigger stronger and faster than ever before. To take hits from these guys puts you life at risk and to make a comment that these guys are wimps is outside the bounds of reality.

Bigger, stronger & faster doesn't = tougher. Steroids make muscles stronger, but weaken connective tissue, hence all the ACL & MCL tears.

TincoSkin wrote: To take hits from these guys puts you life at risk and to make a comment that these guys are wimps is outside the bounds of reality.

this was my real point... but i hear yours..

i still dont see how these guys can be called wimps

if i got hit by a 350 lb lineman my head would come off and id be eating through a straw for the rest of my life forget going back out there for 25 touches running between the tackles

yupchagee wrote:

TincoSkin wrote:the rules that have been instituted to protect players are designed to stop major injuries resulting in lost money and a drain on the NFL.

They are trying to protect against losing big names and keys to big name teams.

Its not that the players are wimps. In fact, with all the steroids they use now id say these guys are way tougher. They can have major knee explosions like carson palmer last year, and after a surgery or two and a bit of growth hormone, go right back out and play.

I can see how the old guys could say, "yeah we used to play both ways on the field and never had oxygen on the bench! you wimps! when i was your age i used to have to walk up hill to school, both ways!! In my day, my bike had no seat!! When i was your age we didnt have shoes! We would wrap newspaper around our feet!!"

But the truth is, the guys in the NFL are bigger stronger and faster than ever before. To take hits from these guys puts you life at risk and to make a comment that these guys are wimps is outside the bounds of reality.

Bigger, stronger & faster doesn't = tougher. Steroids make muscles stronger, but weaken connective tissue, hence all the ACL & MCL tears.

Thats why you take Steroids in cycles. You take it for a little while and then you stop taking it for a little while and then you go back to taking it for a little while. And its not so much that it weakens your tendons or ligaments Its that your muscle gets stronger and your tendon doesn't. So if you don't cycle it down its only a matter of time before your muscle gets to freakin huge that your tendon can't hang on to it.

Steroids will make you bigger, stronger, tougher! Thats what they do! And thats why so many athletes take them while risking their health and risking getting their records, trophies, and victories stripped away if they're caught.

bigger? stronger? tougher? me thinks brunell needs some steroids.

hailskins666 wrote:bigger? stronger? tougher? me thinks brunell needs some steroids.

Check my sig, I almost died when I read it.