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Player injured.

Coach arrested.

CNN is ALL OVER THIS!!!!


So much for team chemistry.

and they were playing DA BEARS !! LOL

Child abuse???!!! Are you kidding me?

OK, he made a fool of himself, but let's not send the guy to the chair.

Damn funny though.

I just hope he wasn't in charge of teaching defensive tackling techniques. That was pitiful.

I think that guy needs to get blind sided by an nfl linebacker to see how it feels. That guy is a dumb a$$.

Hahaha!

I'm sorry but that is hilarious.

Just another example of "when dumb parents get dumber."

UK Skins Fan wrote:Child abuse???!!! Are you kidding me?

OK, he made a fool of himself, but let's not send the guy to the chair.

Damn funny though.

It looks like child abuse to me. Being a fool is no excuse for an adult attacking a child. It's not a capital offense, but I think he should be locked up for a while.

The boy was injured. I don't find that funny.

Cappster wrote:I think that guy needs to get blind sided by an nfl linebacker to see how it feels. That guy is a dumb a$$.

By far the best form of punishment for this loser that I have heard yet!

he shouldn't go to jail, yeah what he did is wrong and he should be punished, but as a criminal Juistice major and a person working with police as a intern (finished it), this is my thoughts.
Why he shouldn't go to jail.
1.ONe he only shoved him.
2. It was the heat of the moment and when people compete a diffrent person sometimes comes out, which shows he has an anger problem and should be made to go to anger control.
3. ban him from coaching youth league, he has shown he is a danger to kids and should not be allowed to go to the games. There is more ways to support your son than to go to their games and the kid probably doesn't want the dad to go to the games anymore.
4. Prisons are way overcrowded and are costing us a lot of money and that is why college tutions are going up and educations funds have been cut, no its not Bush.
5. He should be on some probabtion because he needs supervising and should be made to go to anger control.
6. Even though it was stupid he felt like he was defending his son.
7. This was a result of bad judgement, this guy is not a criminal and should not be going to jail, crimenals go to jail, not people that made a bad decision.
9. Research shows in cases like this that rehab and counsoling are more effective than jail. ONe source is a book I read how to reduce prisons and crime.

1.ONe he only shoved him.
2. It was the heat of the moment and when people compete a diffrent person sometimes comes out, which shows he has an anger problem and should be made to go to anger control.

1) Given the size difference, it was not "just" a shove.
2) A lot of crimes are committed "in the heat of the moment".

There is no excuse for an adult to attack a child. Ever.

yupchagee wrote:There is no excuse for an adult to attack a child. Ever.

I disagree.

If a "child" has a weapon pointed at me or a loved one, believe me, the "kid" is going down....HARD.

In the case of the Assistant Coach for the Redskins, yeah, he should not have done it. Period. I mean, where does this Redskins team find its coaching staff???

The Head Coach has lots of recruiting questions to answer.

I see both sides of the argument. Child abuse? I dont know if I'd call it that. Child abuse isn't cut and dry, theres a lot of opinion in it. I used to get whuppins as a child on a regular basis and it was needed but some people would be ready to through my parents in the slammer citing child abuse.

I think dude was being overly protective of his son and he needs to be barred from the sport. I think jail is a bit overkill, there are people better suited for jail.

Now comes a quick question...

Who deserves jail time more?
1. Sean Taylor
2. Chris Henry
3. Player X, Y, Z from the Bengals
4. Or this guy

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

yupchagee wrote:There is no excuse for an adult to attack a child. Ever.

I disagree.

If a "child" has a weapon pointed at me or a loved one, believe me, the "kid" is going down....HARD.

In the case of the Assistant Coach for the Redskins, yeah, he should not have done it. Period. I mean, where does this Redskins team find its coaching staff???

The Head Coach has lots of recruiting questions to answer.

You're right, I wasn't thinking about a weapon.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I see both sides of the argument. Child abuse? I dont know if I'd call it that. Child abuse isn't cut and dry, theres a lot of opinion in it. I used to get whuppins as a child on a regular basis and it was needed but some people would be ready to through my parents in the slammer citing child abuse.

I think dude was being overly protective of his son and he needs to be barred from the sport. I think jail is a bit overkill, there are people better suited for jail.

Now comes a quick question...

Who deserves jail time more?
1. Sean Taylor
2. Chris Henry
3. Player X, Y, Z from the Bengals
4. Or this guy

He deliberately injured a child. That qualifies as child abuse in my opinion.

The kid was injured? According to the article nobody was hurt. Im not defending the guy, what he did was wrnog but I think jail is excessive. If that kid got hurt from that little shove then he needs to quit football altogether. I started laughing when the little boy said he was scared in the interview because its not true. He's just hamming it up for the camera, he and his buddies are laughing about how he get beat up by and old man right now.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:The kid was injured? According to the article nobody was hurt. Im not defending the guy, what he did was wrnog but I think jail is excessive. If that kid got hurt from that little shove then he needs to quit football altogether. I started laughing when the little boy said he was scared in the interview because its not true. He's just hamming it up for the camera, he and his buddies are laughing about how he get beat up by and old man right now.

Daniel Champion, who identified himself as Wood's father, told The (Stockton) Record that his son suffered bruises on his stomach and jaw from the hit.

Looking at the tape, this guy looked about 250#. He was running full speed. That's not a "little shove".

Just saw it on Rome is burning and if he suffered all of that from the hit, then Id hate to see what happens in to him playing highschool football.

Seriously, Jackson has tackled me harder at skins games. The guy was an idiot but please spare me.

yupchagee wrote:

1.ONe he only shoved him.
2. It was the heat of the moment and when people compete a diffrent person sometimes comes out, which shows he has an anger problem and should be made to go to anger control.

1) Given the size difference, it was not "just" a shove.
2) A lot of crimes are committed "in the heat of the moment".

There is no excuse for an adult to attack a child. Ever.

I am not saying he shouldn't be punished, he shouldn't go to jail, this is also diffrent because this was a sporting event and he felt like he was sticking up for his child (in his mind). This didn't cause serious body harm, if any physical harm at all. Thats not ture, a lot of crimes especially with gangs are premidated, like stealing, murder (especially mob), gangs and mob crime are mostly premidataded. About 90% of stealing is premiditated. A lot of crimes are in the heat of the moment were did you find that out, I study this and work with the police that is not true. Mugging that is planned out, maybe not the person they were going to mug, but actually mugging of someone is planned. This also wasn't abuse, he was angry the guy took a cheap shot at his son than pushed him to the ground, after he pushed him he backed off, and than watched for defense. The guy obviosly has problems, the reason criminals recommit crimes is because they just get punished and don't solve the problem why he commited it. Example a lot of street crime is done because they are trying to make money, should they go to jail for murder and using weapons yes, but when let out they need to make them go vocational training or give them some sort of schooling while they are in jail so they can leave jail and use the school or vocational skill they learned to make money, that is how New York city got cleaned up. What this guy did is diffrent from the last sentence because it was the heat of the moment and this guy doesn't have any prior record of being a criminal and he felt like he was defending his son, there was no serious hurt, he had no intent of putting the guy in the hospital, he just wanted to send a message and the guy was wearing padding equipment. They should put him on probabtion for a couple of years, ban him from youth league sporting events, and make him go to therapy with anger control. Jail won't solve the problem, he will get punished and than still have the problems he had before going to jail and do it again. Oh yeah drug crimes are premidataded, you think they just go, oh I should sell these drugs to some random person, no they make phone calls setting up the deal or find out who wants and does drugs (thats why undercover cops are so huge and a lot of money is spent on them), they try to find a safe place were no one can see them passing the drugs, cash exchanged so no it can't be traced, thats not heat of the moment, thats planned. Believe me I worked with cops, been on a lot of ride alongs and study this in school. Oh yeah and my sister is a prosecutor. By the way most crimes are commited by people you know not people you don't know, that right there tells you most is premidateded and not heat of the moment.

I didn't say all or even most. I have friends in the PD here. They handle a lot of non premeditated crimes. Just because the victim & criminal know each other doesn't mean it was premeditated. A lot of assaults & even many murders are heat of the moment. A lot of domestic violence isn't premeditated, it results from someone losing his or her temper. The victim was much much smaller than the attacker, pads or no, it was far from even. I'll bet that if your kid had been the victim of this thug, you would have a different attitude.

yupchagee wrote:I didn't say all or even most. I have friends in the PD here. They handle a lot of non premeditated crimes. Just because the victim & criminal know each other doesn't mean it was premeditated. A lot of assaults & even many murders are heat of the moment. A lot of domestic violence isn't premeditated, it results from someone losing his or her temper. The victim was much much smaller than the attacker, pads or no, it was far from even. I'll bet that if your kid had been the victim of this thug, you would have a different attitude.

[sarcasm mixed with truth]I bet my kid wouldn't be in a wheel chair after that little shove either.[/sarcasm mixed with truth]

Again, Im not saying the guy was right but just that jail seems a bit excessive. His intent wasn't to hurt, kill, molest, fondle, date the kid. He, as a father went overboard on the protection and felt that he needed to protect his son. He went completely the wrong way about it and he needs to be punished but I feel prison is too much.

Now if he had stayed on top of the kid and started pounding his frail little face in...

I swear I saw Ditka do that every sunday.!!!

yupchagee wrote:I didn't say all or even most. I have friends in the PD here. They handle a lot of non premeditated crimes. Just because the victim & criminal know each other doesn't mean it was premeditated. A lot of assaults & even many murders are heat of the moment. A lot of domestic violence isn't premeditated, it results from someone losing his or her temper. The victim was much much smaller than the attacker, pads or no, it was far from even. I'll bet that if your kid had been the victim of this thug, you would have a different attitude.

I would be pissed at him but I wouldn't think he should go to jail, a lot normally means most. If it was my kid I would get him punished and banned from the league not sent to jail. Crimenals are crimenals to make money and to do that most of them are planned. There are some heat of the moment but most are planned, thats why in law there is a lesser punishment for heat of the moment than planned.

John Manfreda wrote:

yupchagee wrote:I didn't say all or even most. I have friends in the PD here. They handle a lot of non premeditated crimes. Just because the victim & criminal know each other doesn't mean it was premeditated. A lot of assaults & even many murders are heat of the moment. A lot of domestic violence isn't premeditated, it results from someone losing his or her temper. The victim was much much smaller than the attacker, pads or no, it was far from even. I'll bet that if your kid had been the victim of this thug, you would have a different attitude.

I would be pissed at him but I wouldn't think he should go to jail, a lot normally means most. If it was my kid I would get him punished and banned from the league not sent to jail. Crimenals are crimenals to make money and to do that most of them are planned. There are some heat of the moment but most are planned, thats why in law there is a lesser punishment for heat of the moment than planned.

Not all criminals are doing it for money. There are bars that call cops on a nightly basis do to fights breaking out. It's anger &/or twisted machismo. Domestic violence is not profitable as far as I know, neither is rape. This thug needs to be somewhere where he can't hurt kids.

Look at this. This child is not only being mauled by some evil animal but he's taking it in stride. He's holding on to the rock and still trying to fend the animal off. That kid needs to take that other kids spot.

Did the Redskins coach get fired?