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What kind of Redskin fans are voting for this poll?
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:16 pm
by fands57
On Redskins.com, the poll asks who will win the nickel corner job during camp and Ade Jimoh is winning with a staggering 48 percent of the votes. Mark my words, Kenny Wright was brought in here for one thing and that was to solidify the nickel corner spot and improve on last year's unreliable and inconsistent performance from Walt Harris. I mean Wright's stats speak for themselves last year: 78 tackles, 2 INT in 16 starts. The guy will not be the 4th corner and while I love Jimoh and think he will make the 53 man roster, he has little chance, if any to be the nickel corner.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:30 pm
by JPFair
Jimoh has taken a lot of flak from the fans (rightfully so) over the last few years, but I've seen some steady improvement in his play. Plus, the coaches have to see something they like in him to keep him on the roster this long. He must be doing something right in practice. I think Wright will be in there, but Jimoh might just give him a good run for the money.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:37 pm
by Jake
What's even worse is that Morton, Patterson and OTHER have all received votes as well.
I think people are doing that just to be funny.
Re: What kind of Redskin fans are voting for this poll?
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:41 pm
by yupchagee
fands57 wrote:On Redskins.com, the poll asks who will win the nickel corner job during camp and Ade Jimoh is winning with a staggering 48 percent of the votes. Mark my words, Kenny Wright was brought in here for one thing and that was to solidify the nickel corner spot and improve on last year's unreliable and inconsistent performance from Walt Harris. I mean Wright's stats speak for themselves last year: 78 tackles, 2 INT in 16 starts. The guy will not be the 4th corner and while I love Jimoh and think he will make the 53 man roster, he has little chance, if any to be the nickel corner.
There's a reason why those voting aren't coaching. Wright will be the nickel back. Jimoh is improving as a CB a will probably see increased playing time. The biggest reason he's on the roster is his ST play, particularly as a gunner on punt coverage.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:50 pm
by Deadskins
JPFair wrote:Jimoh has taken a lot of flak from the fans (rightfully so) over the last few years, but I've seen some steady improvement in his play. Plus, the coaches have to see something they like in him to keep him on the roster this long. He must be doing something right in practice. I think Wright will be in there, but Jimoh might just give him a good run for the money.
My response exactly. His rookie season, his middle name was toast. Joe's first year back, he still got burned quite a bit, but he made a lot of really nice plays in the clutch. Last year, I don't seem to remember him drawing my ire more than a couple of times, and I often applauded his performance. The kid obviously has heart, or he would have been gone after his rookie campaign. I think he is going to show everyone something this season. That being said, I voted for Wright.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:41 pm
by Justice Hog
Jimoh still hasn't shown me a lot in the secondary. Special teams? That's where I've seen improvement thus far.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:45 pm
by TincoSkin
i think people are generally uninformed about that position and the votes reflect what names people know. It takes a true fan to be well versed at positions that are not the "star" positions.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:45 pm
by John Manfreda
well I guess not people from thehogs.net
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:34 am
by Chris Luva Luva
TincoSkin wrote:It takes a true fan to be well versed at positions that are not the "star" positions.
Since when hasn't DB been a star position?
Deoin Sanders ring a bell? Sure he was a puke but dude made the position popular. Its definately a "star" position in my book.
Sean Taylor
Troy in Pitt...
Ed Reed...
Chump Bailey
Ty Law
Surtain
That cat in ATL definately is a "star"...
Dawkins
Roy Williams
That list right there are all DBs who are very popular and household names.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:05 am
by Deadskins
Chris Luva Luva wrote:That cat in ATL definately is a "star"...
That list right there are all DBs who are very popular and household names.
Just not in your household.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:07 am
by Chris Luva Luva
JSPB22 wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:That cat in ATL definately is a "star"...
That list right there are all DBs who are very popular and household names.
Just not in your household.


Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:20 am
by Steve Spurrier III
Chris Luva Luva wrote:That list right there are all DBs who are very popular and household names.
Now list some nickelbacks who are household names.
That most fans don't recognize that Kenny Wright is probably better than Ade Jimoh doesn't suprise me. I'd bet most people here haven't really seen him play.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:27 am
by Chris Luva Luva
Steve Spurrier III wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:That list right there are all DBs who are very popular and household names.
Now list some nickelbacks who are household names.
That most fans don't recognize that Kenny Wright is probably better than Ade Jimoh doesn't suprise me. I'd bet most people here haven't really seen him play.
Deoin Sanders /end post (last year)
Also, he didn't specify where on the depth chart. He said that DB wasn't a star position and I dont think thats true.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:18 pm
by Steve Spurrier III
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Deion Sanders /end post (last year)
People know Deion Sanders because of his past accomplishments as a starting corner, not because of what he did for the Ravens.
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Also, he didn't specify where on the depth chart. He said that DB wasn't a star position and I dont think thats true.
Actually, he didn't say that:
TincoSkin wrote:i think people are generally uninformed about that position and the votes reflect what names people know. It takes a true fan to be well versed at positions that are not the "star" positions.
I think you were the one who expanded it to all defensive backs.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:35 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Steve Spurrier III wrote:People know Deion Sanders because of his past accomplishments as a starting corner, not because of what he did for the Ravens.
I answered your question didn't I? Ok, I'll give you another from the recent past.
Darrell Green.
Steve Spurrier III wrote:Actually, he didn't say that:
TincoSkin wrote:i think people are generally uninformed about that position and the votes reflect what names people know. It takes a true fan to be well versed at positions that are not the "star" positions.
I included safeties...so whats the problem? My point that its a star position. I dont need to include safeties to prove my point. Most of the star power in the defensive secondary comes from the CBs anyway. So lets nix the safeties and name CBs whom he said aren't "stars".
S. Springs
Surtain
Bailey
Ronde Barber
Dre Bly
Phillip Buchannon
Charles Woodson
Lito Shephard
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:20 pm
by yupchagee
Steve Spurrier III wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:That list right there are all DBs who are very popular and household names.
Now list some nickelbacks who are household names.
All of them are, in their own households

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:06 pm
by Steve Spurrier III
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I included safeties...so whats the problem? My point that its a star position. I dont need to include safeties to prove my point. Most of the star power in the defensive secondary comes from the CBs anyway. So lets nix the safeties and name CBs whom he said aren't "stars".
S. Springs
Surtain
Bailey
Ronde Barber
Dre Bly
Phillip Buchannon
Charles Woodson
Lito Shephard
These are all starting cornerbacks, none are nickelbacks. And yes, Deion Sanders and Darrell Green both did play nickel corner at the end of their careers, but I hope we can agree that they are the exception rather than the rule.
You're arguing with yourself - no one said that corners (or safties) don't qualify as "stars".
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:32 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Steve Spurrier III wrote:
These are all starting cornerbacks, none are nickelbacks. And yes, Deion Sanders and Darrell Green both did play nickel corner at the end of their careers, but I hope we can agree that they are the exception rather than the rule.
You're arguing with yourself - no one said that corners (or safties) don't qualify as "stars".
I misread what he said. I thought he was refferring to the CB as a whole.