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ESPN Thinks Skins Won The Denver Trade

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:02 am
by CooleyAsIce
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ook/060502

Case study: In 2005, Denver traded the 25th pick of the first round for Washington's third choice in 2005, which was the 76th pick, and first choice in 2006. The Broncos then swapped Washington's first choice in 2006 to San Francisco for the Niners' second and third in 2006, which were the 37th and 68th picks. Here's the discount-to-present-value based on the chart. Denver gave up the 25th pick in 2005 (worth 720 points) for the 76th pick in 2005 (worth 210 points), the 37th pick in 2006 (worth 530 in 2006 but only 245 points in 2005 owing to discounting) and the 68th pick in 2006 (worth 250 points in 2006 but only 100 points in 2005 owing to discounting). Thus Denver traded a choice worth 720 points in 2005 for picks worth 555 points when taking into account that the Broncos received two of the three choices in the future. The economic concept of "discounting to present value" assumes the future is less valuable than the present. Take your picture now, take it again in five years, and you'll know what I mean!

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:36 am
by The Hogster
Wow...that is a complicated way to evaluate the trade.

I think we wont the deal simply because we got a QB, that in my opinion is better than Jay Cutler, and may be just as good or better than Vince Young, if Jason Campell was a junior last year and this was his senior year where he lead his team to the National Title and undefeated, he likely would have been one of the top 2 or 3 QB's this year. We got him last year and he's already ahead of the learning curve.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:27 pm
by Mursilis
I'm still holding to the position that we can't know the value of this trade until J. Campbell establishes his worth on the field. If he's as good as Gibbs thinks he will be, it'll definitely come out as a steal.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:42 pm
by welch
How many points is an ESPN draft analysis worth when they play a game?

I can't wait for the real news, which is the first of the training camps.

Even better, just wait, new folks, for the articles written by our very own Hogs Net staff when full-contact camp starts.

Now that will be news.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:46 pm
by Irn-Bru
Keynes and football: collide!

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:19 pm
by Redskin in Canada
FanfromAnnapolis wrote:Keynes and football: collide!
If these two collide, How about John Kenneth Galbraith and football? :wink:

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 3:52 pm
by This_Heat
I thought this was about the Bailey for Portis deal, but I think everyone here knows who "won" that trade.

As for Campbell, Hopefully we'll see a lot of this in the future. In the regular season of course.

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 4:44 pm
by Redskin in Canada
This_Heat wrote:I thought this was about the Bailey for Portis deal, but I think everyone here knows who "won" that trade.

As for Campbell, Hopefully we'll see a lot of this in the future. In the regular season of course.

Welcome to the board CooleyAsIce and This_Heat. I hope you enjoy it here.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:30 am
by blackirishman2006
We won the trade because , ESPN agrees with me in that Jason Campbell will be a Stud Qb

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:32 am
by blackirishman2006
Mursilis wrote:I'm still holding to the position that we can't know the value of this trade until J. Campbell establishes his worth on the field. If he's as good as Gibbs thinks he will be, it'll definitely come out as a steal.


AND HOW WIL CAMPBELL SURE HIS WORTH IF YOU people dont want him to play :) , double talking jiver you lol

you BASH CAMPBELL FOR NOT PLAYING YET,

BUT WHEN some says lets Jason start your like no no no 400 year old Brunell is fine

lol

what a joke

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:35 am
by Mursilis
blackirishman2006 wrote:
Mursilis wrote:I'm still holding to the position that we can't know the value of this trade until J. Campbell establishes his worth on the field. If he's as good as Gibbs thinks he will be, it'll definitely come out as a steal.


AND HOW WIL CAMPBELL SURE HIS WORTH IF YOU people dont want him to play :) , double talking jiver you lol

you BASH CAMPBELL FOR NOT PLAYING YET,

BUT WHEN some says lets Jason start your like no no no 400 year old Brunell is fine

lol

what a joke


If you followed any of the recent QB threads, you'd know I've consistently called for Campbell to play this coming year - how's he going to get better without getting out there? How about you check your facts first, and then come back with an apology for being an idiot.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:47 am
by blackirishman2006
well maybe you in the 5% that want Campbell to play ,
but yopu and i know there alot more people that would love Campbell parked on the becnh