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What is going on man!? Were all going dowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn.
air_hog wrote:ROTFALMAO
TincoSkin wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=C3HY5I431EHHRQFIQMGSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2006/04/09/wbush09.xml&sSheet=/portal/2006/04/09/ixportaltop.html
i think hes try'n to start ww3 with the arab world.
The Bush administration is planning to use nuclear weapons against Iran, to prevent it acquiring its own atomic warheads, claims an investigative writer with high-level Pentagon and intelligence contacts.
Although Iran claims that its nuclear programme is peaceful....
The Bush administration is planning to use nuclear weapons against Iran, to prevent it acquiring its own atomic warheads, claims an investigative writer with high-level Pentagon and intelligence contacts.
Okay, folks, ask yourselves this question. Do you really think that the Pentagon's "inner circle of security" would really allow this type of information to "leak" out? Absolutely not! This is garbage. This is sensationalism at its best.
Don't believe the hype, folks. I don't.
Although Iran claims that its nuclear programme is peaceful....
....Liberalism is destroying our country. First they want us to take "in God we trust" of our dollar bills and coins. Second they want us to stop saying "Merry Christmas" and say happy holidays. Now they are trying to put a stop on saying "Easter". All of the things I just mentioned is absolute insane and most of America agrees!!!..Liberalism is destroying our country. First they want us to take "in God we trust" of our dollar bills and coins. Second they want us to stop saying "Merry Christmas" and say happy holidays. Now they are trying to put a stop on saying "Easter". All of the things I just mentioned is absolute insane and most of America agrees!!!
skins#1fan wrote:you libs dont get it. America is fed up with these bogus stories that aren't true. The whole media hates Bush so bad that they will put anything on the front page to make him look bad. On that note I hope this dumb media keeps it up because it really helps the repubicans win more elections. The Democrats love to bash Bush about everything he does wrong but can someone tell me what there actual plan is step by step? Oh wait they dont have one. All they do is bash instead of comming up with there own ideas to help this country. Well its ok because America sees that and we proved it on election day.
For a second, but only for a second, I thought you were being serious! 
skins#1fan wrote: The Democrats love to bash Bush about everything he does wrong but can someone tell me what there actual plan is step by step? Oh wait they dont have one. All they do is bash instead of comming up with there own ideas to help this country. [/u]
UK Skins Fan wrote:I appreciate that this is off topic, but can anybody tell me why liberalism is an acknowledged political/social doctrine over this side of the pond (not supported by all, as election results show), but it seems to be an utterly detested word by many people in the States, at least anybody on this site that doesn't vote Democrat? I swear, I've seen more bile posted about liberals on this site than I have about fascists.
Just curious.
UK Skins Fan wrote:I appreciate that this is off topic, but can anybody tell me why liberalism is an acknowledged political/social doctrine over this side of the pond (not supported by all, as election results show), but it seems to be an utterly detested word by many people in the States, at least anybody on this site that doesn't vote Democrat? I swear, I've seen more bile posted about liberals on this site than I have about fascists.
Just curious.
TincoSkin wrote:UK Skins Fan wrote:I appreciate that this is off topic, but can anybody tell me why liberalism is an acknowledged political/social doctrine over this side of the pond (not supported by all, as election results show), but it seems to be an utterly detested word by many people in the States, at least anybody on this site that doesn't vote Democrat? I swear, I've seen more bile posted about liberals on this site than I have about fascists.
Just curious.
in addition to what nuskins wrote;
liberalism is portrayed by republicans as too close to communism. i think this might be left over brain damage from the cold war, the fight against the reds. ive been in some good conversations on this site about communism. i have earlier stated that people were brain washed in the 50s and 60s to think that communism was the enemy. while in fact it was a nuclear USSR and fascism; communism was a red herring. i took some flack for it because i overlooked the fact that communism wasnt government control of production. now i understand it was a real threat. but now the same threat is coming from the other side.
neocons use liberalism as a sly way of calling someone a commie, or to be unpatriotic. playing on the old 50s view of our place in the world stage. calling liberals commies means they are painted as wanting to take control from the people. while in fact the neocons are absorbing all of the power these days. they are again using this "leftists are evil" in tandem with watch out for terror we need a strong leader, to gain independance of power. i see neocons as facists. they are projecting their own evil onto liberals and terrorists. now, dont think that i am siding with terrorists, im only saying that this campagin of fear that has been instituded is working to move the USA toward fascism.
the republican party used to be about small governement, states rights, and the constitution. now its about absolute power, surpressing ideas and other political parties, and war.
why dont other conservatives see whats broken in their party?
i for one am no longer a republican.. i am a libertarian and afraid of the fascist right. liberals are fine in my book in fact i am socially liberal. but if the government keeps growing we are all in trouble.
i just realized that was a rediculous tangent. sorry
UK Skins Fan wrote:I appreciate that this is off topic, but can anybody tell me why liberalism is an acknowledged political/social doctrine over this side of the pond (not supported by all, as election results show), but it seems to be an utterly detested word by many people in the States, at least anybody on this site that doesn't vote Democrat? I swear, I've seen more bile posted about liberals on this site than I have about fascists.
Just curious.
Negative use of the term "liberal"
The negative use of the word "liberal" in American politics dates at least from the time of self-proclaimed American liberal President John F. Kennedy. In his speech accepting the Presidential nomination by the New York Liberal Party on September 14, 1960, Kennedy contested the claims of his "opponents" that "liberal" meant "someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar."[13].
John Lukacs, in "The Triumph and Collapse of Liberalism," observed a change in the political usage of the term "liberal" from the 1950s onward. Noting that in 1951, Senator Joseph McCarthy used "liberal" positively when condemning "a conspiracy of infamy so bleak that, when it is finally exposed, its principles shall be forever deserving of the maledictions of all liberal men," and that conservative leader Senator Robert A. Taft stated "he was not a conservative but "an old-fashioned liberal."[14], Lukacs also asserted that the word "liberal" "has become a Bad Word for millions of Americans."
The use of pejorative terms such as "bleeding-heart liberal", "knee-jerk liberal", "tax-and-spend liberal," and "limousine liberal," are a common political tactic in modern American politics. As an example, Republican political consultant Arthur J. Finkelstein was known to repeat the word "liberal" in negative television commercials as frequently as possible, e.g.: "That's liberal. That's Jack Reed. That's wrong. Call liberal Jack Reed and tell him his record on welfare is just too liberal for you."[15]. Many liberal contemporary politicians have tended to shy away from the "liberal" label, preferring terms such as "progressive" or "moderate."[16], [17]
Conservative columnist Ann Coulter made the case for using "liberal" as a slur in her book How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must) in which she likened liberalism to treason. The Conservative Book Service [18] sells a talking doll of Ann Coulter that says, "Liberals hate America". Conservative talk radio hosts Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity often use anti-liberal slogans; the latter titled a book Deliver Us from Evil: Defeating Terrorism, Despotism, and Liberalism. (See also Politicized issue, Propaganda).
Conservatives frequently make accusations of liberal elitism, implying that affluent, educated liberals are not in a position to decide what is best for Middle America. During the 1988 presidential election, then-Vice President George Bush accused Democrat Michael Dukakis of being a "Harvard boutique liberal"; during the 2004 presidential election, a television advertisement accused Democratic nominee John Kerry of being "another rich liberal elitist from Massachusetts who claims he's a man of the people." [19]
Classical liberalism (also called classic liberalism) is a political ideology that embraces individual rights, private property and a laissez-faire economy, a government that exists to protect the liberty of each individual from others, and a constitution that protects individual autonomy from governmental power.[1] It originated in the 17th and 18th centuries. As such, it is often seen as being the natural ideology of the industrial revolution and its subsequent capitalist system. Ideas such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of thought, self-responsibility, and free markets were first proposed by classical liberal thinkers before they were also adopted by thinkers of other ideologies. Classical liberals tend to focus on the individual, freedom, reason, justice and toleration.[2]. Classical liberal ideas inspired both the American Revolution and the French Revolution.
Redskins Rule wrote:
I must say, why are you apologizing? Are you okay? Dude! Don't apologize! bush is an idiot! Most people know that!!!...............By the way, I endorse your post 98% Just please don't apologize for saying your thing on Bush being an idiot! Most people, who have a brain, know that!
welch wrote:April 17 issue of New Yorker has a spooky artlce by Seymour Hersch about the planning for military action against Iran, in case negotiation fails. Conclusion: many options, each bad.
Redskins Rule wrote:If this plan really is for real, like I think it is, The only way I can see us fighting Iran, Iraq, and Al Queda in Afghanistan is to reinstate the draft. 11 Generals have retired since this Iraq War. They all say we should have invaded with a heck of a lot more troops then what we did. Of course, Rumsfield and Bush ignored that...IDIOTS...And now there is Iran....We'll have to reinstate the draft. There is no other way. And I sure as heck wouldn't support that. Would any of you?
This is just more democratic spin on a republican party supposedly trying to demolish the middle east. Absolute trash -- I wouldn't even use the New Yorker to wipe my a__.
welch wrote:This is just more democratic spin on a republican party supposedly trying to demolish the middle east. Absolute trash -- I wouldn't even use the New Yorker to wipe my a__.
When did the entire world become nothing more than party politics?