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ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - Spiking the ball in the end zone is OK. So is spinning it on the ground, or dunking it over the goalpost. Dancing in the end zone is fine, too, as long as it's not prolonged or a group effort.

Almost all other celebrations will be out if the NFL competition committee's proposal to clamp down further on the frivolities is passed by the owners.

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - Spiking the ball in the end zone is OK. So is spinning it on the ground, or dunking it over the goalpost. Dancing in the end zone is fine, too, as long as it's not prolonged or a group effort.

Almost all other celebrations will be out if the NFL competition committee's proposal to clamp down further on the frivolities is passed by the owners.

I think they're going over board with this. Remeber the Philly game when Sean dove into the endzone and everyone piled on him? Would that have been a penalty? If so then this rule is totally wrong. I dont mind them stopping someone from pulling out a cell phone, thats cool but trying to put the lid on emotion is a horrible idea. This game is sweat, tears, emotion...and seeing it expressed is a great part of the game.

I couldn't agree with you more on that Chris! The league seriously needs to loosen up some and realize that too!

I agree Chris...the arrogance of some celebrations should be shut out but the pure excitement should be allowed.

I think that football is a team game, and they should encourage group celebrations instead of individual ones.

No worse decision was ever made than when they outlawed the fun bunch.

This is why I don't want Rich McGay as the new Commish.

He's an old grouch who is stupid and I hate him.

I am all for limiting touchdown celebrations.

There is no retaliation in football except for penalties.

In baseball if you were to hit a home run and then dance at home plate, or stand there and admire it you'd get a 100 mph fastball up your arse.

In basketball if you dunked and then did a dance, and got in someone's face, you don't have pads to protect you, and you'd get clocked.

In hockey... well we know all about what happens in hockey.

I like the idea of group celebrations as in piling on the player, jumping up into another players arms, jumping up to high five, but mostly... players should act like they've been there before.

Skinsfan55 wrote:players should act like they've been there before.

good to know our guys do. i dont think we'll have anything to worry about..

on the flip side TO and the cowboys are in for a lot of trouble

dumb rule.
The celebrations are awsome in football, taking that away just simply sucks! It's fun to do for players and it's fun to watch for us. They need to lighten up and stop crying about people dancing or giving a football CPR. big babies.

Punu wrote:dumb rule.
The celebrations are awsome in football, taking that away just simply sucks! It's fun to do for players and it's fun to watch for us. They need to lighten up and stop crying about people dancing or giving a football CPR. big babies.

JansenFan wrote:I think that football is a team game, and they should encourage group celebrations instead of individual ones.

No worse decision was ever made than when they outlawed the fun bunch.

I personally like the celebrations but I think the NFL thinks the group stuff slows down the game.

Is Portis still gonna be able to do CartWheels?

Terri, I gathered that the Rules Committee was asking that spontaneous acts of enthusiasm be allowed and almost anything goes that does not involve props. I also thought that they were saying that the official would verbally ask the players to stop doing something that might be considered too over the top and only then if the "act" continued would the team be penalised on the next kickoff. This is what has been requested but we have not seen them make this a part of the rule changes yet.

I like the spontaneous outbursts but I also think that any form of taunting or provoking should be dealt with. I think there are too many times that a player verbally or physically attempts to show up others and that should result in very serious penalties.

I think that the game is great and the players should be allowed to be spontaneous but no form of putting down another player or team should be tolerated.

NFL = the no fun league

skinsRin wrote:

JansenFan wrote:I think that football is a team game, and they should encourage group celebrations instead of individual ones.

No worse decision was ever made than when they outlawed the fun bunch.

I personally like the celebrations but I think the NFL thinks the group stuff slows down the game.

Then put a dang clock on it! If the celebration goes longer than the play clock you get hit with delay of game. Its that simple! I don't know what the league's problem is. Celebrations rule! The league already got rid of the fun bunch. If they get rid of individual celebrations then this game is gonna suck. There won't be as much excitement when scoring.

i think it will be ok. Act like you been there before homeboy. A spike is all you need!

Redskins Rule wrote:

skinsRin wrote:

JansenFan wrote:I think that football is a team game, and they should encourage group celebrations instead of individual ones.

No worse decision was ever made than when they outlawed the fun bunch.

I personally like the celebrations but I think the NFL thinks the group stuff slows down the game.

Then put a dang clock on it! If the celebration goes longer than the play clock you get hit with delay of game. Its that simple! I don't know what the league's problem is. Celebrations rule! The league already got rid of the fun bunch. If they get rid of individual celebrations then this game is gonna suck. There won't be as much excitement when scoring.

Because celebrations take up time they could be using for commericals. It's all about $$$.

i loved the one with clinton portis,giving the ball cpr at the eagles game.
seriously get some of it out but not all of it.

welcome to the no fun league.

Chad Johnson and Steve Smith might as well retire. I liked watching just to see what they would do next. I think the celebrations are great.

I love celebrations (unless it is performed by Joe Horn )

Especailly Chad Johnson and Steve Smith's. And Portis had some nice ones too this year.

I forgot who said it, but I remember someone who said it best, "You know the NFL has a problem when old white guys are making rules for young black guys"

Seriously, the NFL is a bunch of old grumpy fat stinky men.

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:I think the celebrations CAN be entertaining, but I hate to think about the crap coaches at the Pop Warner, Middle School, HS, and college levels have to put up with trying to stop their kids from imitating these guys.

They don't celebrate sportsmanship, but individuality. That must give those other coaches headaches.

So why are they coaches? If they CAN'T control their players/children then they need to be fired. They need to instill a sense of morality and sportsmanship into their children, they are supposed to be the role models, not the atheletes.

Another case of whining and passing the buck.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:I think the celebrations CAN be entertaining, but I hate to think about the crap coaches at the Pop Warner, Middle School, HS, and college levels have to put up with trying to stop their kids from imitating these guys.

They don't celebrate sportsmanship, but individuality. That must give those other coaches headaches.

So why are they coaches? If they CAN'T control their players/children then they need to be fired. They need to instill a sense of morality and sportsmanship into their children, they are supposed to be the role models, not the atheletes.

Another case of whining and passing the buck.

Good point. You make a strong case for the need of good leadership, particularly when dealing with youth. In addition to great leadership, these coaches require time with their players. Some teams would benefit more in the "W" column if those coaches could focus more of their time making sure everyone is on the same page of the game plan rather than trying to tell "Junior" that he's not T.O. or Joe Horn. There's nothing wrong with kids being individuals, but it's demoralizing to the team concept when a player puts his own accolades before the rest of the team's, without whom those cats would never be "great".

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:
Good point. You make a strong case for the need of good leadership, particularly when dealing with youth. In addition to great leadership, these coaches require time with their players. Some teams would benefit more in the "W" column if those coaches could focus more of their time making sure everyone is on the same page of the game plan rather than trying to tell "Junior" that he's not T.O. or Joe Horn. There's nothing wrong with kids being individuals, but it's demoralizing to the team concept when a player puts his own accolades before the rest of the team's, without whom those cats would never be "great".

"Demoralizing to the team concept".............I have to agree with you.

It would be much better if the TEAM could celebrate a touchdown THEY scored. If only Laundry and them Cowboys hadn't cried about it for so long and for so many different times. I wish they would kill that rule and let the TEAM celebrate THEIR score. That would solve the problem of a player putting his own accolades before the rest of his team. At least I think so!