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Al Saunders

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:23 pm
by BossHog
Why am I starting a thread on Al Saunders?

Because ALL of these discussions on receivers brought in and how they impact the offense, seem to be void of Saunders' name.

Striking when you consider that he's our new offensive co-ordinator. Will we see the same sets as last year, or will our new offensive co-ordinator actually implement some of his own plays as well?

Will that require different receiver sets? Does that create different needs?

Probably.

... just thought that it was perhaps worth mentioning. :up:

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:26 pm
by gay4pacman
i mentioned this earlier, we will see a diferent offense han last year. We are signing these guys to play in our new system and to thrive.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:29 pm
by AZHog
I'm glad you just brought that up. Gary Horton, of the generally Anti-Skins ESPN, made some pretty cool comments. He sees us working predominantly out of 3 WR sets which totally spreads out defenses. Just think about lining up a nickle or dime against a runner like Portis!?! We're moving into the next level, folks.

Gibbs, while using the "posse" in the mid-80's, used the 3 WR sets to do exactly what Horton was saying: Spread out the defense, run the ball, and confuse them on passing downs. Absolutely phenomenal!

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:29 pm
by kadskin
good point. i think Al Saunders is definitely going to change a lot of how the offense is going to look. i think we'll have more of a 3 or 4 reciever set which would open up a BIG hole for CP. im thinking we're going to look a lot like how the Rams used to be with Holt, Bruce, and Faulk...we're going to bring the "Greatest Show on Turf" to DC :D

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:30 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Will we run into an issue where any one player feels left out? How often will we run out of a 3WR set to satisfy the thirsts of the players?

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:33 pm
by hkHog
Also, Saunders had a lot of ways that he would use Dante Hall in his offense. I think he can do this even better with Randle El because he's more durable and can line up at WR on every play. It should be very exciting to watch!

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:35 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Id definately like to see how well our new WR's run after the catch. That was one thing we lacked for a while. I also wonder about their blocking skills, more specifically with Lloyd.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:39 pm
by Skinsfan55
I don't know how Saunders has used them in the past, but I think we will see some low risk high reward plays, like screen plays.

I am not thrilled with the ARE signing, but as long as he's ours... immagine him playing out of the slot, taking a step back and taking a screen throw...

Cooley, Moss, ARE, Portis are all excellent targets for screen passes. They are almost automatic completions and any of those guys can make a screen into a 10+ yard gain.

That makes the safeties cheat up, we toss it deep to Moss or Lloyd... They sit back we slap them with Portis, or another screen, or a dump off to Cooley or Fauria...

Yeah, we are going to have a pretty sick offense next season... I'd just like to get Williams some defensive players. Archuleta is nice, but getting a consistent pass rush would be nice also. (Crossing fingers for Abreham and or Carter.)

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:40 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Honesty will be the word of the day each Sunday for the defenses we play.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:43 pm
by hkHog
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Id definately like to see how well our new WR's run after the catch. That was one thing we lacked for a while. I also wonder about their blocking skills, more specifically with Lloyd.


Randle El is an excellent blocker as is Moss. Lloyd could use some work.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:47 pm
by patjam77
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Will we run into an issue where any one player feels left out? How often will we run out of a 3WR set to satisfy the thirsts of the players?


good point CLL but that's why these guys get paid what they do... to help comfort hurt feelings.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:01 pm
by gibbsfan
with who we have brought in to go with al saunders offense it looks scary.
like CLL said how will you keep them all happy at the sametime.
i,m liking what i,m seeing.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:01 pm
by Skinsfan55
WR are naturally angry people to begin with.

They always want the ball and hate running patterns, getting open and then NOT getting the pass.

They're usually left unsatisfied, so I think this is a legit concern.

That said, if guys know their role, and don't get jealous, then it will work. If Lloyd is the #3 thinks he should be #2 or ARE is doing the same thing, it could be a problem.

Hopefully Coach Gibbs can make this work, that's why HE makes the big bucks.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:12 pm
by Mursilis
I just can't wait to see what Saunders & company do. I've always thought what our offense lacked wasn't talent (which they've got in Moss, Portis, Cooley, Brunell, Samuels, Jansen, etc., etc.), but innovation. They were just too obvious last season, with all those runs out of two-TE sets, etc. I'm hoping Al Saunders brings the element of surprise to the offense, because the talent level is only getting better. Next season is going to be a real fireworks show!!

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:18 pm
by SkinsFanInHawai'i
Skinsfan55 wrote:WR are naturally angry people to begin with.


Good point SF55,
but when I read the quote above, the only thing I could think of was a bunch of football players running around in the woods with a camera crew filming them like one of those nature shows.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:23 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
SkinsFanInHawai'i wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:WR are naturally angry people to begin with.


Good point SF55,
but when I read the quote above, the only thing I could think of was a bunch of football players running around in the woods with a camera crew filming them like one of those nature shows.


"as we watch the small but lethal WR's graze in the field, notice how they hoop and holler about the QB's in the nearby water hole... Listen... "i want the ball" "im open" "i can't get anymore open than that" See how even in rest they makes these noises that scientists have yet to decipher. WAIT! Here comes a young buck QB, the WRs are moving over to him...

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:34 pm
by SkinsFanInHawai'i
"The TE's want the ball too, but the WR's are having none of that."
"Looks like they will have to wait their turn."

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:40 pm
by Mursilis
ROTFALMAO That's some funny stuff, you two!

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:43 pm
by skinsRin
Saunders never had a #1 WR in KC, he had a bunch of #2's and a studd TE. Now he has an offense loaded with talented WR's and TE's. Lets see what he does with it.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:50 pm
by BossHog
Chris Luva Luva wrote:"as we watch the small but lethal WR's graze in the field, notice how they hoop and holler about the QB's in the nearby water hole... Listen... "i want the ball" "im open" "i can't get anymore open than that" See how even in rest they makes these noises that scientists have yet to decipher. WAIT! Here comes a young buck QB, the WRs are moving over to him...


SkinsFanInHawai'i wrote:"The TE's want the ball too, but the WR's are having none of that."
"Looks like they will have to wait their turn."


"Suddenly, in walks the king of the jungle, Joe Gibbs, and all the animals forget their petty little personal problems, and turn their attention to keeping the respect of the king of the jungle."

:wink:

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:52 pm
by Fios
"Then I go soaring overhead at super-sonic speeds firing missiles from the tips of my gloves and raining havoc down on all who oppose me as women scream in delight at the sound of my passing and insist that I come and massage them with oils"

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:53 pm
by SkinsFanInHawai'i
"If we look over here, we see one of the young WR's is injured. It's Taylor Jacobs."
"Sadly, when the pack moves on, he will be left to die."

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:55 pm
by BossHog
"Unless Al Saunders can breathe life into his lifeless body. "

... and with that, we're back on topic aren't we?

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:09 pm
by cvillehog
I heard Vinny on Sirius this morning. He said that Randle El sat down with Saunders, who explained the offence to him. When the meeting was over, Randle El wanted to be a Redskin.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:13 pm
by Skinsfan55
I don't think ARE wanted to be a Redskin too bad if we had to give him about 10 million more dollars on his contract and 3.5 million more in his bonus...