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Niners trade Lloyd to Redskins

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:08 pm
by ANT7088
The San Francisco 49ers traded leading receiver Brandon Lloyd to Washington on Saturday for the Redskins' third-round pick this year and their fourth-round selection in 2007.

Lloyd was a restricted free agent for the 49ers, who drafted him in the third round three years ago. He was San Francisco's top receiver last season, catching 48 passes for 733 yards and five touchdowns, but alienated teammates and clashed with the coaching staff.

San Francisco signed Lloyd to an offer sheet earlier in the month, but Lloyd seemed eager to leave town - and Washington seems enamored with his highlight-reel skills. He was scheduled to visit the Redskins' training complex Sunday.

Though Lloyd made countless eye-popping catches during his three years with San Francisco, he also made a series of memorable drops and mistakes. Lloyd drew criticism from hard-nosed teammates such as Fred Beasley and Kevan Barlow for his flashy jewelry - and his aspirations to become a rapper in his spare time.

Lloyd caught 105 passes for 1,510 yards and 13 touchdowns in his three seasons with San Francisco. He also caught rookie quarterback Alex Smith's only touchdown pass of the season in the 49ers' season-ending win over Houston.

The 49ers already released receiver Johnnie Morton earlier in the offseason, leaving oft-injured Arnaz Battle as their most experienced receiver. They're expected to go after free agents, including Pittsburgh's Antwaan Randle-El, and seek more receiving help in next month's draft.



http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/foot ... s-football

Lloyd deal is done

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:08 pm
by fands57
Redskins | Lloyd trade done
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:56:29 -0800

Greg Beacham, of the Associated Press, reports the San Francisco 49ers have traded restricted free agent WR Brandon Lloyd to the Washington Redskins for the Redskins' third-round pick in this year's NFL Draft and their fourth-round selection in 2007.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:09 pm
by EA7649
Niners trade Lloyd to Redskins for draft picksAssociated Press


SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- The San Francisco 49ers traded leading receiver Brandon Lloyd to Washington on Saturday for the Redskins' third-round pick this year and their fourth-round selection in 2007.

Brandon Lloyd
Wide Receiver
San Francisco 49ers

Profile
2005 SEASON STATISTICS
Rec Yds TD Avg Long YAC
48 733 5 15.3 89 163




Lloyd was a restricted free agent for the 49ers, who drafted him in the third round three years ago. He was San Francisco's top receiver last season, catching 48 passes for 733 yards and five touchdowns, but alienated teammates and clashed with the coaching staff.


San Francisco signed Lloyd to an offer sheet earlier in the month, but Lloyd seemed eager to leave town -- and Washington seems enamored with his highlight-reel skills. He was scheduled to visit the Redskins' training complex Sunday.


Though Lloyd made countless eye-popping catches during his three years with San Francisco, he also made a series of memorable drops and mistakes. Lloyd drew criticism from hard-nosed teammates such as Fred Beasley and Kevan Barlow for his flashy jewelry -- and his aspirations to become a rapper in his spare time.


Lloyd caught 105 passes for 1,510 yards and 13 touchdowns in his three seasons with San Francisco. He also caught rookie quarterback Alex Smith's only touchdown pass of the season in the 49ers' season-ending win over Houston.


The 49ers already released receiver Johnnie Morton earlier in the offseason, leaving oft-injured Arnaz Battle as their most experienced receiver. They're expected to go after free agents, including Pittsburgh's Antwaan Randle-El, and seek more receiving help in next month's draft.




Source www.ESPN.com

How much are we going to pay Lloyd

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:45 pm
by EA7649
i hope 10 mil over 3 years

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:48 pm
by redskinfan70
i say 5 years, 14 million.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:01 pm
by redskinz4ever
i like this trade ...... 8) =D> \:D/ =D> =D>

Re: Lloyd deal is done

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:10 pm
by Mursilis
fands57 wrote:Redskins | Lloyd trade done
Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:56:29 -0800

Greg Beacham, of the Associated Press, reports the San Francisco 49ers have traded restricted free agent WR Brandon Lloyd to the Washington Redskins for the Redskins' third-round pick in this year's NFL Draft and their fourth-round selection in 2007.


Sweet - not only is he a great acquisition, but for once the skins didn't trade too much to get him. A 3rd and a 4th is a great price to pay for a quality WR. He's the equivalent of a first-rounder in the draft. This should really open up the offense. Now let's just hope Brunell stays healthy next season.

ESPN take of Lloyd

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:16 pm
by EA7649
my friend sent me this "he is a insider"
90-100: Elite player
80-89: Outstanding player
75-79: Solid starter
70-74: Good starter
65-69: Adequate Starter
60-64: Good Backup

He's 6', 180 pounds and is 24. He's rated at 72
Lloyd has marginal size for a receiver lacking both the ideal height and the bulk for the position. However, he makes up for his lack of ideal size with excellent athletic ability. He has very good foot quickness and good speed, though his top end speed is not in the elite class. He has a good surge off the line of scrimmage and runs precise routes. He has a burst coming out of his cuts to get separation and shows the ability to move a defender who is in man coverage with very little wasted motion. He uses his hands and his foot quickness to get off press coverage and knows how to find the voids in coverage. He has excellent hands and can make the acrobatic catch. He shows excellent focus and concentration on the ball when it is in the air, and with his long arms and his leaping ability, he will win most jump ball contests. He can be a threat with the ball in his hands and has a good feel for where he is on the field and where the sideline is at all times. He lacks the physical stature to be a physical blocker down field and is more of a screen and wall off guy. A big, strong defensive back can muscle him out of his routes on occasion. Overall, he needs to improve his strength and is becoming a reliable go-to receiver with excellent hands who is competitive for the ball in any situation. He usually catches what he can touch.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:18 pm
by SkinsFanInHawai'i
EA I don't mean to be a prick,
but this is the 4th or 5th thread started by you about Lloyd.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:22 pm
by Redskins4Life
GREAT ACQUISITION! This is a great way to start our offseason

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:22 pm
by EA7649
SkinsFanInHawai'i wrote:EA I don't mean to be a prick,
but this is the 4th or 5th thread started by you about Lloyd.


i wonder why its news right out of the oven

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:28 pm
by chicosbailbond
I like this trade too.

This is a WR that is coming into his prime... WR's typically hit their stride in their 3rd year... I think he can put up pretty good numbers w/o Alex Smith....

I have had this guy on my Fantasy team two years in a row now... He was a decent bye week fill in...

He has attitude... (not sure if it is bad or not) but he does have a swagger... Kevan Barlow hated him... but Barlow is no world beater either....

I never thought Llyod when I was thinking about possible WR's for the Redskins... but after hearing about this trade I am pleasantly surprised... This isn't a totally flashy pickup...but it makes a lot of sense...

this kid has no where to go but up....

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:29 pm
by Skinsfan55
So what does this mean for us? He's still a RFA but we have his rights? What is our relationship with him now?

Also, I hate that stuff about him wanting to be a rapper and wearing a lot of bling... I hope he fits in.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:33 pm
by Steve Spurrier III
Skinsfan55 wrote:Also, I hate that stuff about him wanting to be a rapper and wearing a lot of bling... I hope he fits in.


I agree. Shades of Darnerian McCants and Ron Artest, although it should be pointed out that there are many players who take interest in other endeavors and also reach their full potential.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:34 pm
by Skinsfan55
Hands like glue...

Looks like with Cooley, Moss and Lloyd the Skins will be an all screen team next season. Brunell might complete 80% next year, haha.

Seriously though, Lloyd is a lot like Moss in his elusiveness (though not quite as good, or fast) but has better hands and can jump higher. This is great. Maybe a 4th WR who is a big target like JJ would be nice... but I think we might be set on offense.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:38 pm
by Skinsfan55
It's true, I am a fan of the Red Sox and we have a pitcher who is an aspiring musician, but he's still a work in progress.

At least being a rapper isn't very physical... Now if Lloyd was playing CF for the Nationals and getting worn out... I might have a bigger problem, haha

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:39 pm
by The Hogster
I'm hearing 10 million in bonuses.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:25 pm
by air_hog
EA7649 wrote:
Lloyd drew criticism from hard-nosed teammates such as Fred Beasley and Kevan Barlow for his flashy jewelry


Sounds like he should fit in just fine... :lol:

But 10 Million in bonuses... that's kind of a lot...

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:30 pm
by TincoSkin
How will Patten fit in with this new addition?? I bet if Brunell spreads out the ball he'll have a great season!!

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:37 pm
by portis26
The Hogster wrote:I'm hearing 10 million in bonuses.


That is way too much, unless it is a long term deal. Does anyone know the max number of years under the new cba?

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:55 pm
by 1niksder
portis26 wrote:
The Hogster wrote:I'm hearing 10 million in bonuses.


That is way too much, unless it is a long term deal. Does anyone know the max number of years under the new cba?

For a vet it's up to him and his agent, the limits are placed on rookies contracts.

The Bonus can be pro-rated over 5 years in 2006 and 6 years in 2007 (it goes back to 5 in 2008)

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:06 pm
by The Hogster
1niksder wrote:
portis26 wrote:
The Hogster wrote:I'm hearing 10 million in bonuses.


That is way too much, unless it is a long term deal. Does anyone know the max number of years under the new cba?

For a vet it's up to him and his agent, the limits are placed on rookies contracts.

The Bonus can be pro-rated over 5 years in 2006 and 6 years in 2007 (it goes back to 5 in 2008)


Exactly, and don't be thrown off by the number, we don't know yet how much of those bonuses will be guaranteed...generally between 60 and 70 percent of the bonuses will be guaranteed and the others will be tied to incentives, staying on the roster...etc.

Prorated over 5 years, that's not a bad deal.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:11 pm
by 1niksder
The Hogster wrote:
1niksder wrote:
portis26 wrote:
The Hogster wrote:I'm hearing 10 million in bonuses.


That is way too much, unless it is a long term deal. Does anyone know the max number of years under the new cba?

For a vet it's up to him and his agent, the limits are placed on rookies contracts.

The Bonus can be pro-rated over 5 years in 2006 and 6 years in 2007 (it goes back to 5 in 2008)


Exactly, and don't be thrown off by the number, we don't know yet how much of those bonuses will be guaranteed...generally between 60 and 70 percent of the bonuses will be guaranteed and the others will be tied to incentives, staying on the roster...etc.

Prorated over 5 years, that's not a bad deal.

Less can be guaranteed this year and more could be listed as LTBE bonuses and roster bonuses paid in future years, only to be converted into guaranteed money next year and prorated over 6 years. It's going to happen league wide (that's why so many signings seem so high)

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:12 pm
by Raindog
Skinsfan55 wrote:Seriously though, Lloyd is a lot like Moss in his elusiveness (though not quite as good, or fast) but has better hands and can jump higher. This is great. Maybe a 4th WR who is a big target like JJ would be nice... but I think we might be set on offense.


JJ is gone. He's part of the Browns now. The Browns also bought a Bentley and signed Kevin Shaffer.

Robert Royal is going to Buffalo.

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:33 am
by Britskin
Its impressive how quickly we got this deal done. Thats the Number 1 need taken care of - now for DE! I don`t know a whole lot about Lloyd but it seems from what you guys have been writing that, rapping apart , he is a good fit for our needs. I suppose we could still acquire another WR through tha draft , unless we trade away our 2nd rounder - that would make the Draft a non-event for us. Any chance we might get anything in a trade for Taylor Jacobs ? I know , nobodys going to be interested - what a bust! Thanks Steve Spurrier.