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http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9244108

It cant be this bad, can it?

So much for getting Randle el if there is any truth to this.

the Skins Hatred in the sports media is simply out of control. i can guarantee you this guy completely made up all of those "quotes" from "cap experts". there are several good articles out already about how we can easily get to 8-15 million UNDER the cap next year. this article is nothing but hate speech.

check out http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02276.html for a slightly more realistic vantagepoint.

blchizzleke wrote:http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9244108

It cant be this bad, can it?

It's Not... Pete Prisco has always been hit or miss with what he puts out he missed on this one.

As far as the quotes by the un-named cap experts - I'm glad they don't work for the Skins if that's how they would deal with this. It might also explain why they are talking to Pete Prisco (most "cap experts" are too busy this time of year to be talking to reporters and hoping their name won't be used)

Read this

We're all doomed, I tell you. Doomed, doomed, doomed. The end of the world is upon us, and cap hell will swallow us all up.

Let me tell you all about Pete Prisco. He is from Jacksonville (where I live), and he appears on a local sports talk radio show. At the beginning of the season last year, he repeatedly went out of his way to say "the Redskins stink, there's no way they'll win more than 3 games...", etc. Funny thing, I never heard him admit that he was wrong once the Skins went on a run and made the playoffs. This guy is just another Redskin hater. He claims to know football and to be an "insider", but he's no more than an opinionated idiot with a keyboard.

This is complete BS. We are going to have no problem getting under the cap.

Skin Diesel wrote:Let me tell you all about Pete Prisco. He is from Jacksonville (where I live), and he appears ...

1niksdeR ?

I thought every person was supposed to have -only- one name in this board!

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Skin Diesel wrote:Let me tell you all about Pete Prisco. He is from Jacksonville (where I live), and he appears ...

1niksdeR ?

I thought every person was supposed to have -only- one name in this board!

Skin Diesel has been around about as long as me but no we aren't the same person. Might be Skin74 though when he isn't controling the skies

Not I said the fly. I've been swamped with work, but have kept a watchful mouse on THN when able. IMHO, PP is like a machine gunner with a blindfold. He just lobbs some rounds downrange to see what he can stir up...

$.02

I'm no cap expert for sure, however, I find it interesting how he does not give ANY specifics!!!

His cap "experts" are unnamed and he does not give any $ figures OR name any players.

This is nothing more than pure (and likely uninformed) speculation.

There are NO facts that can be validated or names of people to verify if the a) are "experts" or b) even said what this clown is claiming they said.

Mere fiction - or in PP's case, fantasy - mascarading as a sports column. Don't they get paid by the word - whether or not it makes sense or is true?

Why cant an actual cap expert write an article at this time of year.

wormer wrote: There are NO facts that can be validated or names of people to verify if the a) are "experts" or b) even said what this clown is claiming they said.

So, what is your point?

When have these "small details" been important at all to put something sensationalist in writing? Remember, there are editors to satisfy, deadlines to meet, ratings to meet, mouths to feed, and egos to satisfy. Since when does the truth have to get on the way of these overriding objectives? I mean, your argument is pointless.

ryanw7196 wrote:Why cant an actual cap expert write an article at this time of year.

They can. They must. They do.

If they do it in a responsible manner while honouring the minimum level of sports and journalist ethics and professionalism, all the more to their credit. Sadly, this is increasingly rare.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

ryanw7196 wrote:Why cant an actual cap expert write an article at this time of year.

They can. They must. They do.

If they do it in a responsible manner while honouring the minimum level of sports and journalist ethics and professionalism, all the more to their credit. Sadly, this is increasingly rare.

Pete comes up with something negative about the Skins on the weekly bases. This week it went national.

When Ramsey and Brunell were in the news the Skins had a QB controversy. When it was Leftwich and Garrad in the news, the Jags had 2 QBs capable of starting and were indeed lucky to have the situation

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9244108

This makes me a little uneasy. I sure hope the Skins got an answer for this one.

SkinsBigtime wrote:http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9244108

This makes me a little uneasy. I sure hope the Skins got an answer for this one.

and just a few weeks ago the washington post wrote a story about how things werent as bad as they seemed.

i'm sure the skins are fine...

A little purging of the high priced, non-producers, may not be a bad thing. The youngsters have stepped up and produced nicely, when given the chance. Don't get me wrong, a productive player is worth keeping/paying for, but there is a lot of dead/non-productive talent on this team too. Let's face it, we'll have to take a hit sooner, or later. Let's just do it now, when the talent seems to be adequate. Besides in todays world, with player jumping ship, like rats from the Titanic. Players with the desire/charactor of a Darrell Green, or Monk are gone (i.e. Smoot, or Dare I say Deion).

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18239 theres allready been a thread

Haven't you been a skins fan long enough to know that thisis just the beggining of the offseason ritual where the writers state that the Cap is going to get us and we won't be able to keep our team together. Then, we go out and sign a couple of guys, restructure a contact and cut a few guys...and Viola! Everything is alright again.

Its the same thing every year!

EA7649 wrote: http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18239 theres allready been a thread

Hate to say it, SkinsBigtime, but EA's right: you've been scooped on this one. Maybe if you were on the boards a little more often, this wouldn't happen. . . :-"

From the Post:

The two sources said Washington could meet its obligation with or without restructuring Arrington's contract by trading or releasing other players, or reworking other contracts.

By cutting safety Matt Bowen and offensive lineman Cory Raymer, who played sparingly last season; cornerback Walt Harris, who lost his starting job to rookie Carlos Rogers; and place kicker John Hall, who was injured for large parts of the past two seasons, sources said the Redskins could save $6.5 million in 2006 cap space. Defensive tackle Brandon Noble, coming off career-threatening injuries, could retire or, if not, it is unlikely the team would keep him at his $1.7 million base salary. Trading backup quarterback Patrick Ramsey, as expected, would trim another $1.7 million.

Getting quarterback Mark Brunell and tackle Jon Jansen to agree to restructure their $4 million base salaries by converting the money to bonuses that can be spread out over several years against the cap would trim another $5 million. Brunell adjusted his salary last year and Jansen has said he would be open to exploring the idea. Cornerback Shawn Springs, running back Clinton Portis, linebacker Marcus Washington and defensive tackle Cornelius Griffin are among the players who, like Arrington, have large bonuses due in 2006. By restructuring the bonuses, and prorating them, Washington could save about $8 million more under the cap.

All of those moves in total would get the team under $90 million, which would allow them to re-sign key free agent safety Ryan Clark, tight end Robert Royal, running back Rock Cartwright and long snapper Ethan Albright, and leave some room for signing other players. While it might not be enough to land a top-tier free agent such as Indianapolis wide receiver Reggie Wayne, the Redskins would still have other options to create more salary cap space, and, should they keep Arrington at a $7 million cap figure, the opportunity to chase a big-name free agent would increase.

Arrington has a base salary of $545,000. Should the Redskins elect to keep Arrington, there are provisions in his contract that would allow them to alter the deal and prorate the $6.5 million bonus over four years. This would lower his 2006 salary cap amount to $7 million.

Either trading or cutting Arrington would result in him counting $12 million on the team's 2006 cap under the current collective bargaining agreement, although if an extension to the CBA is reached before Arrington's bonus comes due, the Redskins could cut him after June 1 and take a $5 million salary cap hit in 2006 and a $7 million hit in 2007.

That article from the post makes me even more concerned. Way too many ifs.
This breakdown comes from a pretty unbiased site and also paints a worrisome picture for the future.
http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp

Doesn't mean next year won't be a great one but few teams are able to maintain consistent success without a shrewd cap manager like New England or Philthy or maybe now Seatle. Unfortunately, Snyder stinks but we're stuck with that spoiled idiot for the forseable future.

skinzrule wrote:That article from the post makes me even more concerned. Way too many ifs.
This breakdown comes from a pretty unbiased site and also paints a worrisome picture for the future.
http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp

Doesn't mean next year won't be a great one but few teams are able to maintain consistent success without a shrewd cap manager like New England or Philthy or maybe now Seatle. Unfortunately, Snyder stinks but we're stuck with that spoiled idiot for the forseable future.

This makes no since at all this is comentary on the 2006 cap. it states we are -20M meaning we are over the cap that hasn't been set yet.
Then we get this.

As usual the Redskins look to be one of the primary offenders heading into the new year. The team's tendency to rework contracts over and over again has made them a poster child for the "mortgage the future for today" mantra. A good case in point is Lavar Arrington, whose base salary in 2006 jumps from $545 K to $2 M. And that doesn't even count a huge roster bonus he is set to earn.

All true but what does it have to do with the cap? Lavar's base is a little over half a mil. THIS year it doesn't shoot up to $2M in 2007 (it's a 06 cap article right?) Roster bonuses are always subject to change. With or without a cap in place.

I'd say this article amounts to this: The media is going through football withdrawal right now just like the rest of us. There are many teams projected over the cap right now... The last figure I heard was that the Jets are projected $26 million over the cap right now. The figures I've heard from sports talk down here in Charlotte (and yes, I am suffering because of it ) have the Panthers projected at $15 million over with some key free agent signings to make. So I'm not overly concerned, several teams have to deal with the issue on a yearly basis. But the media will do an article on the Redskins because they know people will read it. Do the same article on the 4-12 Jets with a new rookie coach and who will care? Exactly...