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Need help on agruement about how Deion is overrated
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:31 pm
by ejay183
Some of my friends and I are agruing cause I said Deion is overrated. All my friends brings up is that he has alot of INTs. Help!
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:33 pm
by Irn-Bru
You could bring up his penchant for falling down rather than trying to tackle someone.
It's pretty obvious that I suck at Smack, so I'll let other people help you out.
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:53 pm
by skinsRin
He was never much of a tackler or hard hitter but I almost have to agree with your friends. In his prime he was so dangerous. In his years with the 9ers and the Cowboys he dominated on Defense and as a kick returner. So, I would say in his prime before the Skins signed him he was not overrated. Sorry man.
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:54 pm
by redskingush
Not overrated at all, I say underrated, he had closing speed in his prime, unbelievable.
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:11 pm
by Primetime42
Lock Deion on one side of the field, that receiver doesn't catch a pass all day long.
Unless it was Rice. Then he might have caught one or two

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:15 pm
by skinpride1
Back in the early 90's Sanders was the man!!!I think his best play was with the niner's!!!!(did ok for the boys)Then his age and greed caught up with him and got the skins burned for paying him a huge deal!!!Early 90's was great, after that just average!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:16 pm
by gay4pacman
as a redskins he let up one touchdown pass
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:39 pm
by Skinsfan55
When Deion played baseball he wanted to meet Curt Schilling in the parking lot after a game to fight.
Schilling laughed at him and said he wasn't going to meet him at the flagpole after recess and that Deion was just a glorified flag football player.
FYI, Schilling is like 6-4 230 and was much younger at the time, that's the kind of fight where there only would have been 3 hits...
Schilling hitting Sanders, Sanders hitting the ground and the ambulance hitting 90 on the way to the hospital.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:08 am
by welch
Sanders could make interceptions, but he couldn't cover as well as Darrell Green. Stats don't tell the story. Teams didn't throw to the DG side -- note the year that Barry Wilburn led the league in INT's because everything went toward his man. Oh, and Green had terrible hands.
Sanders wouldn't tackle, which is fairly important when you're playing defense.
DG and Rod Woodson were better players.
Re: Need help on agruement about how Deion is overrated
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:32 pm
by DarthMonk
ejay183 wrote:Some of my friends and I are agruing cause I said Deion is overrated. All my friends brings up is that he has alot of INTs. Help!
I think calling him "the best ever" is an over-rating. DG was every bit as good. DG was faster, a better tackler, and every bit as dangerous returning punts. DS was good. DS was great. DS was not the "best cover corner ever."
Now this will sound like crying but much like Michael Irvin, DS got away with more than most. I don't know how many times I saw DG get called for ticky tack nothing (ironic seeing as how he was such a good guy) while DS would often get away with murder. Ever notice how Madden and Summerall were always saying Troy, Michael, Emmit, and Deion but were never saying Doug, Art, John, and Darrell? It was always Williams, Monk, Riggins, and Green - as it should be.
Darth
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:48 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Darrell Greens shortcoming

which is one of my own is that he isn't that tall.
Its an amazing feat that he was the beast he was at his height.
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:21 pm
by welch
Darrell Greens shortcoming which is one of my own is that he isn't that tall.
Green wasn't tall, but he could jump. Something Gibbs and Petibon always mentioned: when Green and a WR jumped for a ball, Green was likely to be just as high.
Consider, also, that the difference in height -- maybe six inches -- between Green and a tall WR comes to very little when a QB is trying to hit a running receiver at 20 or 30 yards distance.
Green? The best CB of his time.
Sanders? Overblown.
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Oh...in addition to the Curt S. story, there was the "Pudge" faceoff, when Fisk was catching for the White Sox, and Sanders didn't bother to run out a ground ball. Fisk said something like, "You embarass your team when you do that". Sanders challenged Pudge, who threatened to pound Sanders into the ground like a tent peg. Significant thing: not a single Yankee came off the bench to back Sanders. They were thinking the same thing as Fisk.
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:00 pm
by Hogfather
skinpride1 wrote:Back in the early 90's Sanders was the man!!!I think his best play was with the niner's!!!!(did ok for the boys)Then his age and greed caught up with him and got the skins burned for paying him a huge deal!!!Early 90's was great, after that just average!!!

I would have to say his best play was in Atlanta. That's when he became PRIMETIME.
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:23 pm
by skinsRin
However you look at it Primetime was a dominate player, every team was afraid of him. The only thing he wasn't great at was tackeling but evey other part of his game was A+.
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:05 am
by gay4pacman
skinsRin wrote:However you look at it Primetime was a dominate player, every team was afraid of him. The only thing he wasn't great at was tackeling but evey other part of his game was A+.
agree
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:42 am
by Redskins Rule
Didn't Primetime get hit in the head with a ball or something? Wasn't it on a punt return and instead of catching it it just bounced off of his head?
Thats what I heard anyway. I really want to know if it happened or not.
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:48 am
by Primetime42
My lasting memory was his last game vs. you with us when he blew up Stephen Davis.
...and then got a concussion later in the game.

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:10 am
by Chris Luva Luva
Primetime42 wrote:My lasting memory was his last game vs. you with us when he blew up Stephen Davis.
...and then got a concussion later in the game.

Had he been saving that one tackle for a long time? I guess two tackles in a game exceeded his quota.

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:56 am
by Primetime42
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Primetime42 wrote:My lasting memory was his last game vs. you with us when he blew up Stephen Davis.
...and then got a concussion later in the game.

Had he been saving that one tackle for a long time? I guess two tackles in a game exceeded his quota.

What I never understood is why. He use to lay people out at FSU. I remember vividly going "OOOOOH" when he would.
Was it the persona? Or did he just start believing his own hype?