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Resume help

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:53 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Can someone recommend a good resume format to me? Looks like downsizing might get me.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:07 pm
by Fios

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:14 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
The deal is that they have to cut our dept. down by 7 people. So my boss just asked me if I was interested in a position in the Industrial Engineering dept. I can't say no to a job but I didn't go to school for that. They'll train me but I really think its going to expose my biggest weakness....MATH!!! :shock: :shock:

How should I handle this? I dont know if I can get hired anywhere else so I was weary to say no to the offer... Should I still fish my resume out? What if I get some offers, how do I go about telling my boss that Im leaving anyway...?

I'm 4 years into "adulthood" and it has sucked every step of the way!

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:28 pm
by Fios
Obviously your central goal is to be gainfully employed. Regarding your math skills, many companies offer in-house classes or will reimburse you if you approach them and say "hey, I'm a little rusty in subject X and Y course would help me to be a more efficient employee." Plus that type of initiative looks good on the resume.
Go to a site like monster.com or careerbuilder and post your resume, thsoe sites plus that initial link are excellent sources to help you refine your resume. Generally, it's important to have a brief resume and be proactive in your language. It's essential that you 1) do this on your own time and 2) maintain the visibility of your resume by refreshing it. These sites will often have a "move my resume to the top" option, take advantage of that.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:34 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I'm 4 years into "adulthood" and it has sucked every step of the way!
I am not going to address the previous aspect relating to the very important point of resume writing, which others and yourself might address. It is very important indeed.

I will ask a diffrent question that I often ask a number of young people of about your age:

What is YOUR five- ten- and fifteen-year long professional work plan and personal life objectives?

Let me clarify:

What job will get you during the next five years to where you want to go at the end of those five years? Where do you want to be geographically? What position do you have to have to get where you want to get to? How are you preparing yourself during these five years to get to the position that you aim to obtain at the end of those five years?

No 5-year plan? No future.

No 5-year plan? No-10 year plan, no 15-year plan. Obviously, no plan whatsover for retirement either.

It does not mean that -anybody- can plan and determine every step of its life. In fact, nobody can. But you can set general objectives, whether in your own private business, professional practice, sentimental life, salary-wise, etc

Life is like a sailboat, you know where you start and where more or less you want to go. But you never know what kinds of winds, storms or quiet days are going to force you to alter the course. You constantly need to check and make assessments and tactical adjustments. But the final objective and often also the overall strategy is the same (otherwise you did not think things through very well at the beginning).

How come you can plan every bit of the rights and wrongs (very well, I might add) about the strategy and tactical maneuvers of the Redskins and you do not put in place objectives, and a strategy and tactics to achieve them in your own life even more carefully?

Small anecdote: Quite a few years ago, I invited a coach to watch one of the Superbowls with us on tv at a house party. This was MY coach. My buddy. My teacher. My friend.

He said. No, I can't. My buddies and I asked WHAT? ... WHY?

He responded: Because I am going out to practice with the younger team that day. We responded: Come on! It is the SUPERBOWL!!! It is going to be great. You HAVE to watch it.

He responded: No, I do not. BECAUSE the most important thing in one's life is what WE do, not what OTHERS do. That day will be better spent working with others that need me more than those two teams playing on tv, none which will ever care if I watched or not. That is the difference between being ACTORS in our own lives, and being SPECTATORS in our own lives.

We were speechless. We did not have -anything- else to respond. The lesson was clear: If something, anything distracts you from your main objectives, disregard it.

In this case he used the Superbowl as an example. But he could have used a dead-end job to make the same point. Very often we all HAVE to take jobs that are NOT what we want. We compromise. We have to in order to survive. The secret to success lies in trying to build a path within that maze that makes sense to us.

Hard work is rewarded anywhere. Sometimes not as well or as rapidly as we woould like to. But in the end we all end-up collecting from what we planted.

When a young person tells me what you just typed, I say: Welcome to the club. We all went through that. When an older person says that, I almost cry for a wasted life. The difference is the ability to create objectives and implement a strategy that you stick to with enormous determinatioin and discipline to implement. But I would say that it is never too late in life.

That is why I am a fan. Because I have learned to use football the way George Allen and Joe Gibbs see the world. It has been a paradigma in my life. I can see the things that they taught and see how that actually worked with me. I am a person that believes in Joe' system not only in football, but in life.

So, let's start from the beginning. Where is your next 5-year plan my boy? :wink:

Edited once. RiC

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:42 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
My 5 year plan?

I five years I'll be 26. By that age I would like to have my Bachelors. I would like to own a house within the next 2 years actually but that falls within the 5. Maybe marriage. :lol:

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:50 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Chris Luva Luva wrote:My 5 year plan?

I five years I'll be 26. By that age I would like to have my Bachelors. I would like to own a house within the next 2 years actually but that falls within the 5. Maybe marriage. :lol:

No steps in the ladder to get there? No job(s) in between?

No path? then, No destination! You know very well what I meant. I will leave it at this. :wink:

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:56 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Redskin in Canada wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:My 5 year plan?

I five years I'll be 26. By that age I would like to have my Bachelors. I would like to own a house within the next 2 years actually but that falls within the 5. Maybe marriage. :lol:

No steps in the ladder to get there? No job(s) in between?

No path? then, No destination! You know very well what I meant. I will leave it at this. :wink:


What job will get you during the next five years to where you want to go at the end of those five years?

My current job could have. I was there to get experience and I was going to school this coming fall.

Where do you want to be geographically?

I doubt I could make good money here in Baltimore so I always figured I'd end up commuting. Penn. was always a possibility.

What position do you have to have to get where you want to get to?

My most recent goal was to be promoted to senior technician and than to takeover the project deployment specialist position which my friend Jason has.

How are you preparing yourself during these five years to get to the position that you aim to obtain at the end of those five years?

I was working on the skills that my supervisor outlined in my review.

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:26 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Since it looks to me that the job in UPS was not an END onto itslf but rather a MEANS towards and end, this is not a tragedy.

As I understand it, you do not foresee yourself having a life-career at UPS. So, you are or were going to leave it in your terms when it suited you.

So, now the situation has changed but the fundamentals have not changed. It will take some sacrifice and extra work to apply for the new position. As Fios has said, you might get some extra training to go with it.

The key requirement is that THIS new position at UPS does not affect your path towards your end. If going back to school to get your bachelors was a priority, this job should not interfere with that objective. If it does, you might have to place a curriculum in several other places.

PRIORITIES.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:41 am
by ii7-V7
Regarding your resume and job search.

You should always have your resume ready and up to date. You never know when you're going to be let go, or when you're going to have a great offer come your way. I also think that you should always be searching for your next job. If you're happily employed you may not be out and activley applying for jobs, but you should be looking. That will help you to know what is available in your area and to know how difficult those jobs might be to get.

Regarding making money in Baltimore.

You can make money anywhere...and even moreso in a city. You can definetly make money in Baltimore. I just took a new job in the city making twice what I was making up in Harford County.

Regarding life goals.

Do you know what job, or set of jobs, you are aiming to eventually have? Do you want to eventually have a specific job, or is it more a matter of survival, money, getting a house, etc? Some people know that they want to have job X, Y, or Z, and nothing else will do. Others just simply want to make enough to be comfortable and then enjoy thier lives outside of work. Either is fine, but you need to be realistic about it. You definetly need to know what you don't want to do!

The reason I bring this up is because when I was your age I wanted a Bachelor's degree, and I din't really care what it was in. I got it....and now I'm really wishing that I had taken more time to figure out exactly what I wanted to do instead of just getting a generic degree.

Regarding whether to stay.

I say yes. Make the transfer and learn what you have to learn. This may be God's way of leading you somewhere. If not, it at least gives you more time to search.

Chad