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With Al Sanders as coordinator I am all for ditching the the two Te set and moving ey to Te, like he used Tony Gonzalez and playing Nemo or Cartwright, or even Emanual white at Full back. What do you all think.

John Manfreda wrote:With Al Sanders as coordinator I am all for ditching the the two Te set and moving ey to Te, like he used Tony Gonzalez and playing Nemo or Cartwright, or even Emanual white at Full back. What do you all think.

If this were to happen I think Sellars would be the FB.

But I just can't see Joe Gibbs getting rid of the position he created (H Back.) I however could see ey running the same routes/plays Gonzo ran from the TE spot at the H Back Spot.

Just because saunders came here i dont see joe gibbs ditching his offensive philosophy. In my oppinion I think the only reason ey has been as productive as he has is because of the mismatches his position creates and is necessary in our offense, I dont see him being nearly as productive if made into a regular TE.

The Chiefs still ran two TE sets. Saunders runs a variety of plays out of a variety of sets. I heard a quote somewhere where they said he is organized just like GW is on defense, and he can go two straight games without calling the same play out of the same formation at all.

The Hogster wrote:The Chiefs still ran two TE sets. Saunders runs a variety of plays out of a variety of sets. I heard a quote somewhere where they said he is organized just like GW is on defense, and he can go two straight games without calling the same play out of the same formation at all.

I love this move of getting Saunders to the skins!!I'm so excited and I'm wondering if there are any big K.C. offensive players that are free agents this year that might want to follow Saunders?

John Manfreda wrote:With Al Sanders as coordinator I am all for ditching the the two Te set and moving ey to Te, like he used Tony Gonzalez and playing Nemo or Cartwright, or even Emanual white at Full back. What do you all think.

I don't think we have to ditch the double TE set. We could play ey at TE, Sellers at H-Back and maybe sign Tony Richardson for FB.

Here's my thoughts on that from another post:
http://www.thehogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=229547&highlight=#229547

The Hogster wrote:The Chiefs still ran two TE sets. Saunders runs a variety of plays out of a variety of sets. I heard a quote somewhere where they said he is organized just like GW is on defense, and he can go two straight games without calling the same play out of the same formation at all.

Oh boy!!!

Yea, if i recall, kc ran two tight ends and a singleback offense, just like ours. The only difference is we impliment an h-back more than k.c. did but that's just more variety for saunders

Johnny, that would be a wholesale philosophy change. It's not what we need. All we need to do is improve the WR corps and the protection schemes, and maybe get the run blocking tightened up a little (Ray wasn't pulling like Randy), and we're looking at another couple of wins. That should be good enough for the division.

The Hogster wrote:The Chiefs still ran two TE sets. Saunders runs a variety of plays out of a variety of sets. I heard a quote somewhere where they said he is organized just like GW is on defense, and he can go two straight games without calling the same play out of the same formation at all.

Actually, from Peter King of SI (who shockingly gives the Skins praise & loves the move).

Dick Vermeil left every facet of the offense to Saunders, and Saunders was so controlling that he never would call the same play over a four-game span. His theory was that if teams studied the Chiefs, he didn't want them ever to see anything predictable in the four previous games that Kansas City had played. "I think that's taking it a bit too far,'' Vermeil told me last year, "but you can't argue with Al's success. It works. He's done a fantastic job. And the fact is, teams do have trouble adjusting to what we do.''

Getting rid of the Hback position would be a move backward for this offense. That position is a wildcard of sorts and is the reasons why ey is able to contribue the way that he has.

There is NO reason why Saunders can't implement that position into his offense. I think what will be cool is having both White and ey on the field at the same time. You wont know what either of them are there for until the ball is snapped. Is one going for a pass, is the other blocking? Are they both blocking, or both going out for passes? Is one or the other on a delayed route to chip the blitzer or DE and go out into the open flat?

Why would we want to get rid of that? They're going to tie up an atheletic defensive player on almost every down.