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T.O. in Redskins' Uniform???

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:26 pm
by spudstr04
Owens Would Look Good in a Redskins Uniform

By Leonard Shapiro
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, November 26, 2005; 12:56 AM

Billy Kilmer, the old furnace-faced quarterback of the 1970s Redskins, showed up in Tampa a couple of weeks ago to watch his old team lose a heartbreaker to the Buccaneers.

Sitting in the media lounge before the game started, Kilmer also offered up an old football warrior's solution to the Terrell Owens situation in Philadelphia.

If Owens had made statements about him similar to the ones he made about Donovan McNabb, Kilmer said he would simply have taken matters into his own passing hand.

"I'd send him over the middle," Kilmer said, with a sly smile on his face. "Then I'd lob one up and make him stretch out for it. Oh yeah, I'd probably tell the safety where I was gonna' throw the ball, too. I guarantee you, that would have been the last time T.O. lipped off about me."

Maybe we have seen the end of Owens obstructive tactics, absurd touchdown celebrations and apologetic press conferences, the last of which was staged outside his suburban New Jersey home with pathetic agent Drew Rosenhaus and seemed more Comedy Central than contrite mea culpa.

There also is no doubt that Owens will play football again, though hardly at the price he and his agent had in mind when they clearly orchestrated his disruptive behavior starting back in training camp in order to get the Eagles to renegotiate what had been a sweet seven-year, $49 million deal to begin with.

Make no mistake, Owens is still a major offensive force who drives defensive coordinators and cornerbacks -- not to mention his own coaches and teammates -- totally batty. But if he plays for anything more than a modest signing bonus and an NFL minimum veteran's contract next year, I'd be very surprised.

But I also would not be the least bit shocked, either, if the Washington Redskins were one of the teams that tries to go after him in the offseason, once the Eagles release him rather than pay a $5 million roster bonus that comes due in March.

Joe Gibbs and Terrell Owens in the same area code, you ask. Why not?

Despite his squeaky clean image and his deeply held religious beliefs, Gibbs mostly likes to win. He's also had a long history of putting up with disruptive players marching to the beat of their own drummer, going back to the days of Dexter Manley, Gary Clark and even John Riggins.

Wasn't it Gibbs' NASCAR racing team that also has been paying bad-boy driver Tony Stewart big money for so many years? As long as Stewart kept winning championships, Gibbs Racing was willing to deal with all manners of off-track transgressions and petulant behavior.

You think the Redskins' passing game would be struggling now with Owens in the lineup? You think Santana Moss might see less double and even triple coverage than he's been getting over the last four games with teams paying virtually no attention at all to lesser lights like David Patten, James Thrash or Taylor Jacobs?

(Not to get sidetracked here, but the Redskins biggest offseason blunder was not going after a big-bodied receiver in the college draft or free agency, and heaven knows they had plenty of chances to avoid an all-Smurf receiving corps. With USC's Mike Williams still on the board, the Redskins instead chose Auburn cornerback Carlos Rogers with the ninth selection overall. Rogers, who still has potential, nevertheless has been making countless rookie mistakes all season and still can't crack a starting lineup that includes cornerback Walt Harris, who can't seem to cover or tackle on a consistent basis. But we digress).

Owens would seem to be Daniel Snyder's kind of guy, at least in Snyder's early incarnation as an impulsive owner more than happy to throw big bucks to a wide variety of over-the-hill, nonproductive former All Pro players to come and feed at the Redskins trough. But Owens is one player who might actually be a difference maker on a team desperate to throw the ball, if only Snyder can convince Gibbs he'd be worth the risk.

You'd also like to think that Owens's forced trip to the sidelines for a good portion of the current season might make a difference in his own life.

He'll be 32 next year and there aren't all that many seasons left for a player who also has been somewhat injury prone over the last few years.

Perhaps after this latest setback and reality check, he'll finally be prepared to simply play the game, no shenanigans included.

There are other places where Owens might fit in nicely. Dallas owner Jerry Jones was quoted the other day as saying he hasn't ruled out taking a chance on Owens when and if he becomes a free agent. His coach, Bill Parcells, also has a track record of dealing with egomanaical superstars -- Lawrence Taylor and Keyshawn Johnson come immediately to mind -- and Owens would be a sweet target for bazooka-armed quarterback Drew Bledsoe.

And how about the Green Bay Packers? Do you think Brett Favre might be convinced to come back for one more year after the disaster of 2005 knowing that Owens would be at the other end of many of his throws? Having Owens exiled to Green Bay, the NFL's smallest and coldest outpost, would also be the league's version of sweet revenge.

And if Owens ever gave Favre any lip, there's always the Billy Kilmer solution, virtually guaranteeing it would stay buttoned in perpetuity.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:03 pm
by skinsRin
I am all for signing TO, we need him and I think the risk is worth the reward. TO won't be an angel this time around but he learned a lesson. The guy is a competitor he wants to play and I think he will somewhat keep his mouth shut this time around. We could really use him!

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:12 pm
by RedskinsFreak
NO NO NO -- a million times NO!

His skills are of no consequence in this decision.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:16 pm
by EA7649
skinsRin wrote:I am all for signing TO, we need him and I think the risk is worth the reward. TO won't be an angel this time around but he learned a lesson. The guy is a competitor he wants to play and I think he will somewhat keep his mouth shut this time around. We could really use him!

i agree

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:19 pm
by Justice Hog
The only way I would remotely consider/condone this team signing T.O. is if we got him at a rediculously low price.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:24 pm
by Jake
http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic. ... c&start=50

Seriously, why are you bringing up a 2 month old article that I already posted?

We are NOT getting T.O. I can bet anybody on this board $1,000 that we will NOT get him. And I am glad we won't.

Terrell Owens is the opposite of what this team is. End of discussion.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:22 pm
by Punu
We are NOT getting T.O. I can bet anybody on this board $1,000 that we will NOT get him. And I am glad we won't.


I'll take a bet. 20 bux. you give me 50 to 1.
deal? :lol:

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:52 pm
by skinsRin
Punu wrote:
We are NOT getting T.O. I can bet anybody on this board $1,000 that we will NOT get him. And I am glad we won't.


I'll take a bet. 20 bux. you give me 50 to 1.
deal? :lol:


I'm down too if he want to give us a 50-1 odds $20. lets do it.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:09 pm
by CPallDAY08
Heard that Snyder really likes T.O. aswell and he wont have to worry about going against Sean Taylor twice a year anymore! :lol:

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:53 pm
by RedskinsFreak
CPallDAY08 wrote:Heard that Snyder really likes T.O. aswell and he wont have to worry about going against Sean Taylor twice a year anymore! :lol:

But Snyder likes winning more. Besides getting back into the fold of teams that matter in the NFL, Snyder should have learned that this team's interests are best served when he keeps his nose out of all things regarding personnel.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:33 pm
by Hogfather
Not going to happen!

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:48 pm
by hatsOFF2gibbs
TO with Brunell as QB? It'll never work. Seriously, it won't.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:19 pm
by redskingush
hatsOFF2gibbs wrote:TO with Brunell as QB? It'll never work. Seriously, it won't.


But what if Brunell wasn't the QB.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:47 pm
by SkinzCanes
But what if Brunell wasn't the QB.


We would have an offense that could score?? Just kidding. I'm in no way endorsing getting TO but I think that he will actually behave himself next season because the contact that he signs is going to have lots of behavior clauses and not a lot of gauranteed money.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:51 pm
by Snout
It really depends on whether T.O. wants to change and become a team player. Some people think that is impossible.

I think it's possible.

I think that T.O. wants to win. And I think that he wants to be well paid. Contending teams are not going to give him a chance unless he shows a change of attitude. He is not going to be well paid again until her shows he can get along with his teammates.

He has plenty of incentive to change his ways. But can he? Will he? We do not know yet.

Is it worth the risk? Depends on what he costs. If we can get him for cheap, we can keep him on a short leash, and there is minimal downside.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:01 pm
by HEROHAMO
If he can be a good teammate Ill take him on our team. But thats highly unlikely. Heck we as a team are doing just fine.Ill continue to entertain the thought of T.O. in my dreams though.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:03 pm
by HEROHAMO
Oh yeah one more thing. I would rather have him on our team if he behaves. But what if he goes to the Dallas? I certainly hope he can go anywhere but the Dallas.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:21 am
by spenser
Dont Think its gonna happen. Didnt Gibbs get rid of malcontents (Coles & Gardner) and potentially going to get rid of another "problem" in lavaur. Just dont see it happening with our momentum, positive attitude and chemistry. Oh yeah Nice cheap Shot at C-money Rogers too. "Countless" rookie mistakes? Isnt that what rookies do is learn and make mistakes in the process? I dont remember Carlos Costing us any games, But i do remember the one he saved in tampa. What a clown. Carlos is going to be an elite corner in the league. But what do i know im not a "sports writer" I mean... far be it for me to question Mike Williams AMAZING numbers!
29 Recptions 350 yards and 1 touchdown! :shock:
Im not saying he wont be good, but to call out carlos who has been the best rookie corner this year IMO, is pretty weak.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:52 am
by Scottskins
1 year deal for 1 million? Sure, I'd pull the trigger on that one. Only that one. Anything else is inconceiveable...

There are much better options out there for us. Moulds, Wayne and Randle El come to mind...

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:53 am
by Chris Luva Luva
I'd take TO ONLY IF:

He was seperated from the team at all times EXCEPT when playing on the field.

He'd have his own bubble on the sideline.
His own practice field.
His lockeroom would be seperate.
He is not allowed to remove his mouthpeice during the game.
That he wears a collar that allows him to be shocked by Gregg Williams.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:03 am
by Smithian
Chris Luva Luva wrote:That he wears a collar that allows him to be shocked by Gregg Williams.
Forget that.

I am taking some major cow shocker for Bugel. Also, let Gibbs whip him whenever he compares himself to Jesus.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:43 pm
by thaiphoon
Um...

NO ...

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:30 pm
by zr0hero
I fail to understand why this keeps getting brought up. Who cares if TO is a playmaker. With his attitude issues, and selfishness (among so many other things) there is no way this guy is getting anywhere near our locker room.


Kill this thread dead now, please. Just lock it. In fact, put a ban on anything TO related. Thats one guy I'v heard enough about for a lifetime.

:x

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:34 pm
by Gibbs4Life
As long as he stays out of the East, if he is coming to the nfc east I'd rather have him and if necessary bench him than see him twice a year.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:03 am
by tcwest10
I got a nice picture in my head of Owens playing for Houston or the 'aints next year.
Please don't ruin that for me. :)