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any word on how he is progressing and what the coachs are saying aboyut him?

haven't seen or heard much but I can say -- he isn't ready to lead our team. He's a few years away.

I'm thinking we keep Ramsey for one more year (end of his original contract) or we trade him and pick up another veteran QB to back-up Brunnel next year. By then Campbell will be our guy.

I'm just wondering when they plan on transitioning Campbell into the starting role. Rookie QB's always struggle, with very rare exceptions (like Big Ben last year in Pittsburgh). Playing is the only thing that's going to get JC ready for the pro level.

Good points- I can't imagine when Gibbs will give the ball to Campbell because rookie qb's= mistakes and forced balls. As we know JG will have none of that

Maybe JC will be the exception and never struggle
I just hope his hands are not too small

Watching, waiting and learning...a luxury that many teams do not have. (Buffalo, Chicago, etc.)

What the skins are doing is the right way (ref. Oilers/Titans w/ Steve McNair). I like it.

tcwest10 wrote:Watching, waiting and learning...a luxury that many teams do not have. (Buffalo, Chicago, etc.)

I'm not convinced sitting on the bench watching does much to help a QB's progress. Look at C. Palmer in Cincy - he spent a year on the bench "learning", but still struggled when he was finally made the starter. It's only this year (his third year in the NFL and his second as the starter) that's he really begun to blossom. I think the only thing which really gets a college QB ready for the NFL is playing in NFL games, and unless the guy is the second coming of Montana, he's going to struggle at first. Look at Brees out in SD and Manning up there in NY - they definitely needed game time to polish their game. Campbell's likely going to be the same way - he's going to struggle at first. I just wonder about the timing of it all - a QB taking his first season of starts is likely not going to be much help for a team gearing up for a Super Bowl run, like the 'skins are in the next few years.

Right now, Campbell is displaying very good bench presence and is learning the idiosyncrasies of ear pieces.

He has been given much praise lately as he had quickly developed his own clipboard holding style. Coaches say it allows him to review previous plays sent down from the coaches box in a speedier fashion.

He's progressing along quite nicely if you ask me.

Jake wrote:Right now, Campbell is displaying very good bench presence and is learning the idiosyncrasies of ear pieces.

He has been given much praise lately as he had quickly developed his own clipboard holding style. Coaches say it allows him to review previous plays sent down from the coaches box in a speedier fashion.

He's progressing along quite nicely if you ask me.

Smart @ss!!

Mursilis wrote:

tcwest10 wrote:Watching, waiting and learning...a luxury that many teams do not have. (Buffalo, Chicago, etc.)

I'm not convinced sitting on the bench watching does much to help a QB's progress. Look at C. Palmer in Cincy - he spent a year on the bench "learning", but still struggled when he was finally made the starter. It's only this year (his third year in the NFL and his second as the starter) that's he really begun to blossom. I think the only thing which really gets a college QB ready for the NFL is playing in NFL games, and unless the guy is the second coming of Montana, he's going to struggle at first. Look at Brees out in SD and Manning up there in NY - they definitely needed game time to polish their game. Campbell's likely going to be the same way - he's going to struggle at first. I just wonder about the timing of it all - a QB taking his first season of starts is likely not going to be much help for a team gearing up for a Super Bowl run, like the 'skins are in the next few years.

I understand your opinion that playing in NFL games helps to make a QB better, but if you don't think Carson Palmer started blossoming until this year, you gotta be nuts. If I remember correctly, he had a couple of nice plays lastyear against OUR washington Redskins.

MarcusBeNimble wrote:

Mursilis wrote:

tcwest10 wrote:Watching, waiting and learning...a luxury that many teams do not have. (Buffalo, Chicago, etc.)

I'm not convinced sitting on the bench watching does much to help a QB's progress. Look at C. Palmer in Cincy - he spent a year on the bench "learning", but still struggled when he was finally made the starter. It's only this year (his third year in the NFL and his second as the starter) that's he really begun to blossom. I think the only thing which really gets a college QB ready for the NFL is playing in NFL games, and unless the guy is the second coming of Montana, he's going to struggle at first. Look at Brees out in SD and Manning up there in NY - they definitely needed game time to polish their game. Campbell's likely going to be the same way - he's going to struggle at first. I just wonder about the timing of it all - a QB taking his first season of starts is likely not going to be much help for a team gearing up for a Super Bowl run, like the 'skins are in the next few years.

I understand your opinion that playing in NFL games helps to make a QB better, but if you don't think Carson Palmer started blossoming until this year, you gotta be nuts. If I remember correctly, he had a couple of nice plays lastyear against OUR washington Redskins.

A couple of nice plays does not equal a good season. He wasn't horrible last year, but when Aaron Brooks has a better passer rating, you're not that great. Now this year is a different story; Palmer is definitely taking off as a QB.

the Big Big question at this point is, if brunell shows signs of improving to early 2005 form, do we really consider starting him AGAIN next year? or do we believe that he won't last the whole season anyway, so may as well get going with campbell, or even ramsey?

I'd like to see Brunell start again next year with Campbell getting a bigger chunk of the preseason snaps and some cleanup duty.

die cowboys die wrote:the Big Big question at this point is, if brunell shows signs of improving to early 2005 form, do we really consider starting him AGAIN next year? or do we believe that he won't last the whole season anyway, so may as well get going with campbell, or even ramsey?

Well you know what they say about people who assume.

If we can get a 1st or 2nd rounder for Patrick ship him off. If not then keep him till the end of his contract.

Evaluate Brunell in the offseason if he's healthy than he starts. Hurt Brunell ='s crying redskin fans.

Jason needs to move up to the 2nd spot behind Brunell next offseason. I say give him the green light by the 3rd year.

all i know is after the 3 game losing streak, i seem to recall a lot of people saying we should start campbell over brunell. people wanted the skins to just give up on the season.
remember when people said that?? man that was dumb

When I met him he seemed kinda arrogant and uninviteful but everyone has their days. What kinda vibe have you guys gotten from him if you've approached/met him before?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:When I met him he seemed kinda arrogant and uninviteful but everyone has their days. What kinda vibe have you guys gotten from him if you've approached/met him before?

Who? Campell or Brunell??