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redskins 2004 pierce 112 tackles 1 sack 2 ints 3 pass defense 1 fumble 1 td

redskins 2005 Marshall 80 tackles 2 sacks 2 ints 1 td 4 pass defense 2 fumble *still 3 games to go*

I like Lemar Way better. He has all of the intangibles, in an interview last week GW said he lines all of the players up now, and is getting comftrable in the defense. He also said that Lemar has UNLIMITED potential. He expects Marshall to get better every year, because its his first year at mlb.
He is also A LOT cheaper, probobly 3 or 4 times less. He works hard(very hard), stays VERY humble, never complains about ANYTHING, and actually wants to be here(signed a contract in the offseason.)
Unlike Pierce, he is also versatile, he can play olb or mlb(as he showed last year) A guy that valuable CAN'Y be let go.If there was to be an injury , he could not only fill in, he can excel at the olb position.
For those of you who want pierce, let me ask you this...With the large contract we would give Pierce, how would we be able to fill ofher needs( cough cough DE cough). All of you want a DE, wel how do you propose we get one with three high payed linebackers( would have been Arrington, Pierce, and Washington).

he's baaaack


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SkinsLaVar wrote:he's baaaack


welcome home ST

lol finally im back on this site, and SkinsLavar is still as random as he was before. Anyways, whats your guys' opinion on this since the season is nearly over and weve had time to evaluate.

Pierce is very impressive but Marshall has been a better player than pierce was last year... it's almost even... but it was the amount of tackles pierce had that impressed me... Marshall plays all around great, intsead of standing out in one area. So today I would choose Marshall over pierce.

Marshall didnt have Griffin, Noble and Big Joe the entire season to open paths for tackles. Marshall has been lucky to have either Griffin or Big Joe in front of him. Marshall has been great and I dont any love for AP after he complained to the media that the Skins didnt match the Giant's offer, even though the Skins could not afford it. Plus Marshall is better in coverage.

I choose Antonio because at the moment he is the better MLB. That being said Im more than satisfied with Lemars playing. He has filled Antonio's shoes even though he may not YET be as good as Antonio. Lemar has removed the question mark from the MLB position and added a dimension to it that Antonio couldn't and thats being better in coverage.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I choose Antonio because at the moment he is the better MLB. That being said Im more than satisfied with Lemars playing. He has filled Antonio's shoes even though he may not YET be as good as Antonio. Lemar has removed the question mark from the MLB position and added a dimension to it that Antonio couldn't and thats being better in coverage.

Yes he is better, but HOW much better? Is he "millions of dollars a year more" better than Marshall? THe question is who would you rather have, not whos better. I agree with you though, he has filled the shoes of Pierce

WshSkins22 wrote:THe question is who would you rather have, not whos better.

If you read my post would have seen.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I choose Antonio

I choose him because IMO he's the better MLB. I answered your question.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

WshSkins22 wrote:THe question is who would you rather have, not whos better.

If you read my post would have seen.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I choose Antonio

I choose him because IMO he's the better MLB. I answered your question.

Yes, but you would still take Antonio with that price tag and the way he offended the redskins over Lemar Marshall is what im saying...

I am not convinced that Pierce is even better than Lemar. This was Lemar's first year as a MLB and I think he will improve, he has filled in well, and his contract is much more affordable. Pierce is injured right now too.

Lemar seems like a good team player who we don't have to re-sign for mega-millions. Good decision to let Pierce hit the market.

The Hogster wrote:I am not convinced that Pierce is even better than Lemar. This was Lemar's first year as a MLB and I think he will improve, he has filled in well, and his contract is much more affordable. Pierce is injured right now too.

Lemar seems like a good team player who we don't have to re-sign for mega-millions. Good decision to let Pierce hit the market.

Exactly my point of view...what is this infatuation with Pierce. He reallly didn't stand out last year, until everyone started looking at his stats(160 total tackles). IMO, thats how he got hyped. And he ends up going to NY, to most media based city in the country, which hypes him up even further. Guys, he is a good story, but come on some of you actl ike this undraffted guy is an elite linebacker, Piercei s just not at a Ray Lewis or Urlacher leverl, and neither is Marshall.

I'm gonna say LMarshall just because of the fact that he's starting that position and supposedly getting better each game. A major plus is that he's not that big in the wallet.

haah yes lemars wining 7-6

I'm not basing my opinion on either in regards to money and Im taking the burgundy glasses off. From a pure talent stand point Im still choosing Peirce. I've praised Lemar before and in this thread but IMO Peirce is the better MLB at this very moment. It was said Peirce was a product of the system and he proved us wrong. He want to NY and thrived. He became the soul of the defense and took over. Im not sure if Lemar has that leadership in him. If Antonio was a product of Gregg he'd gone to NY and failed. Peirce is growing and getting better just as Lemar is. Maybe Peirce is better simply because he's had more time in a starting role, if they started at the same time maybe the result would be different. Either way they are two talent MLB's.

maybe the question should be

who do you think is a better player/mlb?

I still think I'd take Antonio. That guy had command in the huddle and was just a perfect MLB.

But no knock on Lemar. He's doing great right now and seems to be getting better week by week.

Right now I am spoiled at LB.

I grew up watching the Skins and we always had guys like Wilbur Marshall, Monte Coleman, Kurt Gouviea.

Now we have Lavar Arrington, Marcus Washington and Lemar Marshalll....Im satisfied.

I still think Lemar is better because he is better in coverage. As a former Safety he has better coverage skills than Pierce. Other than that they are neck and neck.

1. Marshall because he is going to kick Puke butt on Sunday!
2. Marshall because he is going to kick G-String butt the week after!
3. Marshall because he is going to kick Philthy butt the second week after!

Anybody want to argue with those three reasons?

Im gonna say Lemar because he is not injured. Pierce to me is much better in pass coverage and can stuff the run pretty good as well. But since he betrayed the skins and hopped ship out to the enemy. By default I must give Lemar the nod.

Can we get non biased opinions? Aside from injuries aside from who betrayed who, who do you think is the better MLB. Personally I dont think Antonio betrayed the Skins. We didn't want to pay him so he left for greener pastures. Look what the guy had to endure as a Skin player. He was constantly overlooked, shoved to the back, never played, been cut, resigned... He comes in and plays lights out for us AFTER he brought someone in via F/A to play for us and he EXCELLED. Then we dont resign him. I'd be pissed too.

As far as the traditional MLB I like Peirce. I like wut Lemar can bring via pass coverage but his coverage hasn't been noticebly better than Peirces and thats the honest truth.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Can we get non biased opinions? Aside from injuries aside from who betrayed who, who do you think is the better MLB. Personally I dont think Antonio betrayed the Skins. We didn't want to pay him so he left for greener pastures. Look what the guy had to endure as a Skin player. He was constantly overlooked, shoved to the back, never played, been cut, resigned... He comes in and plays lights out for us AFTER he brought someone in via F/A to play for us and he EXCELLED. Then we dont resign him. I'd be pissed too.

As far as the traditional MLB I like Peirce. I like wut Lemar can bring via pass coverage but his coverage hasn't been noticebly better than Peirces and thats the honest truth.

Well in that case like I said without the injuries and teams involved. Id go with Pierce hes been stellar. I feel he is also a leader. And pure athletic ability goes to pierce as well. Theyre you happy....

HEROHAMO wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Can we get non biased opinions? Aside from injuries aside from who betrayed who, who do you think is the better MLB. Personally I dont think Antonio betrayed the Skins. We didn't want to pay him so he left for greener pastures. Look what the guy had to endure as a Skin player. He was constantly overlooked, shoved to the back, never played, been cut, resigned... He comes in and plays lights out for us AFTER he brought someone in via F/A to play for us and he EXCELLED. Then we dont resign him. I'd be pissed too.

As far as the traditional MLB I like Peirce. I like wut Lemar can bring via pass coverage but his coverage hasn't been noticebly better than Peirces and thats the honest truth.

Well in that case like I said without the injuries and teams involved. Id go with Pierce hes been stellar. I feel he is also a leader. And pure athletic ability goes to pierce as well. Theyre you happy....

-1 Lemar
+1 Peirce

For all the reasons that you said Pierce was justified in leaving are the reasons why I would take Lemar. He is all those things and he's alot less expensive, and better in pass coverage.

The Hogster wrote:For all the reasons that you said Pierce was justified in leaving are the reasons why I would take Lemar. He is all those things and he's alot less expensive, and better in pass coverage.

Dont get me wrong, I like Lemar. I said in earlier posts that he has filled Tony's shoes quite well. He's done so well infact that nobody really misses Peirce.

However, I was just picking imo the best MLB so that was the question posed to us.