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Art Monk Among 25 Semi-Finalist for HOF

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:22 pm
by The Hogster
Art Monk is in the top 25 semi-finalists list for the Hall of Fame class of 2006. Ballot will be reduced to 13 and increased to 15 before the Superbowl.

Other receivers on the list are: Andre Reed and Michael Irvin.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:49 pm
by redskindave
I hope he gets in this time around, Its already been far too long HTTR

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:11 pm
by Redskin in Canada
I am just warming up to it guys. I have not gotten started yet with my campaign. The site will also do something as always.

Patience.

RiC

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:52 pm
by HEROHAMO
Man my hopes are with him as well. But keep up the goodwork skins canada.

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:46 am
by Mursilis
Redskin in Canada wrote:I am just warming up to it guys. I have not gotten started yet with my campaign. The site will also do something as always.

Patience.

RiC


Seriously, do you know HOF voters or something? I'm just curious, and of course I agree Monk should be in the hall. He was just an absolutely great player, and unlike too many of today's receivers, he had a ton of class and did all his talking through his play.

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:21 pm
by SKINZ_DOMIN8
How embarassing would it be if Michael Irvin got in before Monk did?


There is a very good chance this could happen. :evil:

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:37 pm
by joebagadonuts
embarassing for the voters, embarassing for football, not for art.

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:48 pm
by John Manfreda
He should get in, but who knows?

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:07 pm
by frankcal20
He should get in but you know how the NFL loves to do it. Art Monk meant more to the Redskins than Irving meant to the Cowboys. I heard the Head of the HOF say that its now if Art will get in, its a matter of When. I hope now.

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:14 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Mursilis wrote:Seriously, do you know HOF voters or something? I'm just curious, and of course I agree Monk should be in the hall. He was just an absolutely great player, and unlike too many of today's receivers, he had a ton of class and did all his talking through his play.

You are on a good path of rehabilitation in my book. O:)

We know who the voters are. We have contacted them in the past with letters and messages. We will do the same this year.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:20 pm
by UK Skins Fan
If Irvin gets in ahead of Monk, there's going to be a whole lot of puking going on around these parts.

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:46 pm
by RedskinsFreak
Just for the record, stats (rec-yds-TDs):

MONK - 940 - 12,721 - 68
Irvin - 750 - 11,904 - 65
Reed - 951 - 13,198 - 87

TOP 10 APPEARANCES:

MONK (16 yrs): rec-4, yds-3, TDs-1
Irvin (14 yrs): rec-4, yds-6, TDs-5
Reed (16 yrs): rec-5, yds-3, TDs-4

RINGS:
Monk 3
Irvin 3
Reed 0

Of course, at no time were either Irvin or Reed ever the NFL's all-time leading receiver.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:44 am
by tcwest10
Freak, they don't care about the stats. (When I say they, I mean the selectors.) It's not entirely clear what the nay voters are using for criteria, but there's definitely some feeling that Art Monk doesn't deserve to stand with the GOAT's. You, I and others without the right to vote, disagree.
He needs to get in soon, in my view. When Jerry Rice become eligible in four years, the standards (whatever they are) will be forever changed...and no human being will ever be selected to the HOF as a WR ever again.
Really. They'll be putting in ball boys first.
If there was anything I could change about the process, it would be that the selectors would have their vote and reasoning made public.
It's not like a presidential election or anything. I don't think that they're entitled to the privacy they have now. I think that you have no chance of changing a man's mind about judging another man's career if it isn't clear who has what problem with Monk.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:57 am
by gus
I think Irving working for TV make him now a "colleague" of the voters, and it woulndn't surprise me at all if he gets in before Art.

I sure hope Monk makes it this year to the HOF, cause he is the kind of person kids can look up to. Great guy inside and outside the football field.

HaiL,

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:16 am
by admin
There is a permanent link to all of the Art Monk stuff in the History section. There is an 'Art Monk Tribute' button on the right side of the history main page.

Here is a direct link to the page if you prefer to bookmark it individually:

http://www.the-hogs.net/History/ArtMonk/index.html

We will also either re-open the 'Art Monk to the HOF' forum soon or re-visit adding an actual petition page.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:16 pm
by Redskin in Canada
admin wrote:There is a permanent link to all of the Art Monk stuff in the History section. There is an 'Art Monk Tribute' button on the right side of the history main page.

Here is a direct link to the page if you prefer to bookmark it individually:

http://www.the-hogs.net/History/ArtMonk/index.html

We will also either re-open the 'Art Monk to the HOF' forum soon or re-visit adding an actual petition page.

Thanks Boss.

Also, a few of us had a debate on this issue on an earlier thread this Fall. A number of great articles and statistics (including comparisons with other candidates and already inducted players) were posted in it about Art and the support of many Redskin and non-Redskin fans for his cause.

There are also some anti-Art articles there and, perhaps more interestingly, some articles that describe the flaws currently embedded in the HOF selection process.

This is it:

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic. ... e3810df9e9

Enjoy.

RiC

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:10 am
by carolinakat
It just seems stupid to me that he's not all ready in there.

#81 RULES

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:03 am
by UK Skins Fan
http://www.washingtontimes.com/sports/20051125-115631-4461r.htm
Nothing new here, but:
Grimm is one of this year's semifinalists. Jacoby isn't. If Monk's Hall of Fame campaign falls short again and Grimm is also passed over, it may be time for Redskins supporters to cut their losses and set their sights on what might be an even more egregious oversight: No Hogs in the Hall.

Have to agree about Grimm and Jacoby, but "cut their losses"??? Never. Art Monk belongs, and he belongs there now.