The-Hogs.net - Washington Football Discussion, Redskins to Commanders Era

Score 35 points and lose. Gregg William's arrogance is beyond belief. Every time they scored was a result of his constant blitzing. Granted we have absolutely no pass rush and sometimes we have to gamble, but he gambled over and over and it cost us the game. Yeah Alstott's elbow was down and Prielou did not force Galloway out on the early Buc scoring drive, but we can't lay it on the ref's, we had the game, why not rush 4 and cover? He is too hard headed. We blitzed all day long and still never laid a glove on Simm's. Looks like everyone in the league has figured our all of the "packages" I'm just sick. I guess there should be a waiting period before I'm allowed to vent, I guess I'll be sorry I said all this later, but for now, William's sucks.

I put that in Greg Williams also. He was sending the corner all day and they did nothing but get smoked on that play and he STILL SENT IT. HELLO????????????????? I mean Walt Harris is horrendous but come on. And then good call by the spcial teams coach to try to block an extra point that never happens. They try to kick it TWICE and we just give them the 2. Wonderful game, wonderful coaching. This just in, our defense HAS A PROBLEM. Big plays all year, can't stop it. Haven't stopped them yet so there is no reason to think they are going to 9 games in. It's whats killing us, and we havent fixed it or the turnovers. Going nowhere quickly...

Sean Taylor out opemed up alot in Tampa's Pass game, we need him back asap, I fear teams will have a field day going after Clark, Prieleau and bowen.

I put the game tying TD squarely on his play call. As soon as I saw him send Shawn Springs (our best cover corner on a blitz) that was easily spotted and picked up, I knew that it was one on one against Walt Harris.

That was the game changing play. With the two point conversion aside...that play did it.

He did the EXACT SAME THING earlier in the game and left Carlos Rogers one on one.

If you are gonna blitz on 3rd and long, at least send a linebacker....especially since out secondary has been pourous.

NO excuse for that Chris Simms is inexperienced...gotta make him thread the needle and not give him an opportunity.

I have to hang this one on JG...he never should have given the ball back to Tb, given how horrendous the secondary had been.

JG should have thrown a short route for the two and got the first down when Tb had zero timeouts left versus running the ball...had they converted, the 'skins win...

Bad play calling...on both JG and GW...

I just hope the Team stays together after this one.

The Team as a whole played well, but some individuals blew it for us.

Prioleau,
Walt Harris
Robert Royal

I would put Brunnel on the list, but he hung in there and made some big plays for us.

I would love to see those guys on another roster next year.

BigPig wrote:I have to hang this one on JG...he never should have given the ball back to Tb, given how horrendous the secondary had been.

JG should have thrown a short route for the two and got the first down when Tb had bo timeouts left versus running the ball...had they converted, the 'skins win...

Bad play calling...on both JG and GW...

While that was pivotal...we ran the ball b/c we needed to run time off the clock...passing would have given them more than 30 more seconds if we don't convert.

Hindsight is 20/20 but who would have thought Greg Williams woulda gambled in such a crucial point in the game?

I expected our Defense to at least hold them to a FG. Greg Williams has to swallow his pride and keep them out of the endzone...leaving our worst coverage guy Harris out all alone without any safety held and blitzing Shawn Springs was plain foolish.

Greg Williams is like that dude who doesn't know when to stop rolling the dice.

With our secondary being as weak as it is at this point why blitz our best cover man over and over?

Biltz Clark, or Harris. Let Springs cover their best man one on one. It's what we paid him for. We can pay anyone to blitz the quarterback its the cover corners that are hard to come by in this league.

Bad use of personal by GW.

I have to agree. When your Offense scores 27 points, your special teams run it back for a touchdown, but you lose... that's all on the D. We turned it over a couple times but the team played BAD defense and let them rack up 36 points.

There's no reason in the world for a rookie CB, Walt Harris, and our 2nd string free safety to be responsible for holding the fort in the final minutes of the game while we get our hundredth blitz picked up.

So pissed.

Convert the 3rd and 3 and we win the game .

Hooligan wrote:I have to agree. When your Offense scores 27 points, your special teams run it back for a touchdown, but you lose... that's all on the D. We turned it over a couple times but the team played BAD defense and let them rack up 36 points.

There's no reason in the world for a rookie CB, Walt Harris, and our 2nd string free safety to be responsible for holding the fort in the final minutes of the game while we get our hundredth blitz picked up.

So pissed.

I agree wholeheartedly...Greg Williams must be the only guy in the world that doesn't recognize that blitz. Just too bad we had to learn that lesson this way.

coachKarl wrote:Convert the 3rd and 3 and we win the game .

You can pick any number of plays throughout the game, but the one that lost the game was the game tying TD. Never should have happened. Gibbs should let Williams take all of the questions from the media this week.

You can't let a rookie QB embarass your blitzes like that.

I hate the prevent defense, but if there were ever a time to use it, it is that time. If you rush 3 and drop 8 there is no way they score on us.

Convert the 3rd and 3 and we win the game .

Yea we should've thrown on that play. It's very tough to get a first down in the NFL by running the ball three straight times when the defense is expecting it. A first down there and the game is over. With the way our defense was playing that first down was crucial. Terrible all around decision making by our coaching staff today.

What about our offense not going for the 1st down at the end of the game and giving the game back to the Bucs?

What about our offense not going for the 1st down at the end of the game and giving the game back to the Bucs?

I don't understand that decision at all. Gibbs gets conservative at the wrong times.

prevent d is terrible, almost cost us in the philly game. You live by the blitz, you die by the blitz. I agree though, should have blitzed harris not springs.

1fan4ramsey wrote:prevent d is terrible, almost cost us in the philly game. You live by the blitz, you die by the blitz. I agree though, should have blitzed harris not springs.

Wouldn't go Prevent, but you definitely don't run your best cover corner on a blitz.

Can you imagine the Broncos sending champ on a blitz when the whole world knows you are trying to throw for a TD??

WHat a foolish call!!! Im so upset about this game...

coachKarl wrote:Convert the 3rd and 3 and we win the game .

ding... hammer hits nail on the head.....


This is it exactly... we lost the game b/c we didn't dominate them and run the clock out... the offense should have converted that 3rd and 3 and the game was over...

IMO the Defense deserves to have a bad game... they have overachieved and kept us in games when our offense really stunk it up... and when our offense had their chance to repay the Defense; they blew it....

chicosbailbond wrote:

coachKarl wrote:Convert the 3rd and 3 and we win the game .

ding... hammer hits nail on the head.....


This is it exactly... we lost the game b/c we didn't dominate them and run the clock out... the offense should have converted that 3rd and 3 and the game was over...

IMO the Defense deserves to have a bad game... they have overachieved and kept us in games when our offense really stunk it up... and when our offense had their chance to repay the Defense; they blew it....

Yeah they deserve A bad game...and we should have converted that 3rd down, but we have given up 36 points in consecutive road games, and the game prior to that we gave up 28 to the Cheifs...that is just poor defense period.

WHY DID THEY SEND SPRINGS ON A BLITZ!!!!

ejay183 wrote:WHY DID THEY SEND SPRINGS ON A BLITZ!!!!

Because they thought Priolou would give Harris some help up top.

I mean come on guys, Gregg Williams is not the reason we lost this game. Our secondary was just flat out terrible today.

Honestly, I think the reason we lost the game was because we punted the ball with 2:00 mins. to go giving the Bucs plenty of time against our depleated secondary.

Let's just say if we went for it but didn't make it, Tampa would have had a harder time scoring in my opinion becuase we have a very solid RedZone defense.

Galloway is their biggest weapon, and if you take away his long game he loses half his value. Then even if they did score, we probably would have had more time to come back and score instead of only 58 sec or whatever it was.

So while the defense was torched today, I feel that the conservative play of punting the ball away cost us the game.

air_hog wrote:So while the defense was torched today, I feel that the conservative play of punting the ball away cost us the game.

What about the god-awful punt by Frost? Maybe a decent punt and field position would have changed things.

Hooligan wrote:

air_hog wrote:So while the defense was torched today, I feel that the conservative play of punting the ball away cost us the game.

What about the god-awful punt by Frost? Maybe a decent punt and field position would have changed things.

Yeah, but even if he did kick it another 20 yards our secodary was getting torched.

I don't know, but I just think we should have let the offense give one final push to clinch the game, and I think if they were given the oppertunnity, they would have come through...

the big blitz was an idiotic decision that backfired several times when it was completely unneccessary. when you're WINNING and it's 3rd and long, you only need to PREVENT something from happening, not MAKE something happen. you don't need a sack/fumble/INT, you don't need to blitz. you just need to keep them from getting 9 yards!!!!!

INEXCUSABLE!

ejay183 wrote:WHY DID THEY SEND SPRINGS ON A BLITZ!!!!

Because GW is the only idiot in America that thinks he is "surprising" anyone with the Springs corner blitz.