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Not being naive, over-confident, or foolishly cocky. But just curious what thoughts are on the Giant game? Most think it will be a dog fight, however, the 49er defense is rnked dead last in the NFL.

Guess who is second to last??....That's right, the NY Giants. We are facing the worst defense and the second worse defense in consecutive weeks. Their offense is good, but our defense is consistently stout. This game could have ingredients of another blowout. Likely not a 35 point shallacking, but a 31-10 repeat of last season's game may not be far off.

This year's Giants in my opinion are not a legitimate contender. History has shown that Top 5 offenses are not enough to get it done when the defense is poor. That is exactly what the Giants are this year.

However, unlike the 49ers, the Giants have some weapons on defense and have a relatively solid run defense. Their passing defense is awful. It's the NY offense that worries me, the defense has given up some big runs of late and those are the kind Tiki Barber can take to the house.

I think we win by 10. I'll say 31-21.

Check out the 1991 Redskins schedule. I hope we can get to a point where we consistently turn in dominant performances. Sure, Gibbs says to the media and to the team that all of our games are close, that is to keep the team focused.

But this is a reminder of how dominant a Gibbs lead team can be when we execute on all cylinders for the entire season.

1 | Detroit Lions | W | 45- 0 |
| 2 | at Dallas Cowboys | W | 33-31 |
| 3 | Phoenix Cardinals | W | 34- 0 |
| 4 | at Cincinnati Bengals | W | 34-27 |
| 5 | Philadelphia Eagles | W | 23- 0 |
| 6 | at Chicago Bears | W | 20- 7 |
| 7 | Cleveland Browns | W | 42-17 |
| 8 | |
| 9 | at New York Giants | W | 17-13 |
| 10 | Houston Oilers | W | 16-13 |
| 11 | Atlanta Falcons | W | 56-17 |
| 12 | at Pittsburgh Steelers | W | 41-14 |
| 13 | Dallas Cowboys | L | 21-24 |
| 14 | at Los Angeles Rams | W | 27- 6 |
| 15 | at Phoenix Cardinals | W | 20-14 |
| 16 | New York Giants | W | 34-17 |
| 17 | at Philadelphia Eagles | L | 22-24

By the way 1991 season was the last time the Skins has a Top 5 Offense AND a Top 5 defense. Offense was #1, Defense was #2.

The Hogster wrote:..Most think it will be a dog fight, however, the 49er defense is ranked dead last in the NFL.

Guess who is second to last??....That's right, the NY Giants. We are facing the worst defense and the second worse defense in consecutive weeks. Their offense is good, but our defense is consistently stout. This game could have ingredients of another blowout. Likely not a 35 point shallacking, but a 31-10 repeat of last season's game may not be far off.

This year's Giants in my opinion are not a legitimate contender. .

Their offense is 15th and their passing offense is 13th - they are not a very good team offensively and as you pointed outthey are next to last defensively!. They have been very lucky and that is over!

The point spread of Giants -3 is a betting line only and goes to prove how many stupid (betting) people live in NY - that is BS!

This is a W! next up, the iggles at home!

The Hogster wrote:Not being naive, over-confident, or foolishly cocky. But just curious what thoghts are on the Giant game. Most think it will be a dog fight, however, the 49er defense is ranked dead last in the NFL.

Guess who is second to last??....That's right, the NY Giants. We are facing the worst defense and the second worse defense in consecutive weeks. Their offense is good, but our defense is consistently stout. This game could have ingredients of another blowout. Likely not a 35 point shallacking, but a 31-10 repeat of last season's game may not be far off.

This year's Giants in my opinion are not a legitimate contender. History has shown that Top 5 offenses are not enough to get it done when the defense is poor. That is exactly what the Giants are this year.

I agree I dont think they are a legitimate contender. The key is turnovers...in two of there wins they got over 10 TO. We cant give them the ball and we must finish drives. In another win special teams scored 2 tds. We win if we dont turn the ball over and do win the special teams battle.

I think we will beat them, but I am worried about home field (we always seem to get screwed on the calls, more so on the road), its a rivalry so who knows. They beat Denver and we didn't, but on the flip side we beat Dallas and they didn't. I think we should win this game, but I don't know.

I agree JM - don't get me wrong, I do not think this will be as easy a win as the stats indicate, because it is a division game and on the road but I think we are just a better team and I feel we just have the desire to win this.

I also believe that Arrington will dominate that offensive line. Did anyone notice how long this kid needs? Denver were delaying their blitzes and still almost getting to him. Hopefully the defensive line is not too banged up after SF!!

Dallas was sweet but this is going to be the begining of the end for the gints! This is a much bigger challenge for them than for us. We have the teamwork and are starting to get better each week. We have played very well the last 3 games.

SkinsJock wrote:

The Hogster wrote:..Most think it will be a dog fight, however, the 49er defense is ranked dead last in the NFL.

Guess who is second to last??....That's right, the NY Giants. We are facing the worst defense and the second worse defense in consecutive weeks. Their offense is good, but our defense is consistently stout. This game could have ingredients of another blowout. Likely not a 35 point shallacking, but a 31-10 repeat of last season's game may not be far off.

This year's Giants in my opinion are not a legitimate contender. .

Their offense is 15th and their passing offense is 13th - they are not a very good team offensively and as you pointed outthey are next to last defensively!. They have been very lucky and that is over!

The point spread of Giants -3 is a betting line only and goes to prove how many stupid (betting) people live in NY - that is BS!

This is a W! next up, the iggles at home!

Stupid???? Since when do all the betting lines come from NY???? That's just a STUPID comment!


This will not be a blow out, I live in NY & get stuck watching the Giants every week, they may be ranked 2nd to last but they're are better then that. This will be a fight till the 2 minute warning

I say 20-17 Redskins! or 21-20 Redskins!

or 35-14 redskins!

We will win the game as long as we don't turn the ball over. We are definately a better team than them.

The Giants like us always keep their games close one way or the other. I definately don't think we will walk away without an exhausting and hard fought battle. I think they actually have the advantage because they are at home. Either way it will be a close one.

Skins 35-17

I really like our chances agains the G-men, the way our line played yesterday. I think we will control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Our d line will stop the run, I think Greg Willams will put something in defense to make sure we do not give up the big play. The only thing that worries me is the size of Burress. He is really big and physical and I think that will give our coners promblemes, only Taylor can cover him, but he will be so busy covering Shockey.

Fios wrote:However, unlike the 49ers, the Giants have some weapons on defense and have a relatively solid run defense. Their passing defense is awful. It's the NY offense that worries me, the defense has given up some big runs of late and those are the kind Tiki Barber can take to the house.

Uaintready wrote:The only thing that worries me is the size of Burress. He is really big and physical and I think that will give our coners promblemes, only Taylor can cover him, but he will be so busy covering Shockey.

I think that makes Lemar Marshall's versatility a great plus. He was a saftety in college and his ability in pass coverage will be a great asset to help out on Shockey.

[quote="Uaintready"]The only thing that worries me is the size of Burress. He is really big and physical and I think that will give our coners promblemes, only Taylor can cover him, but he will be so busy covering Shockey.

I disagree. I don't see him giving us as big of a problem as you think. Last year we shutdown TO and R. Moss. Burress is a good WR but he isn't a Moss or TO. Burress will be aided by our lack of a pass rush but we didn't have one last year either. We'll be forcing them to pass, we'll shutdown their mediocre running game. If we can get some pressure we'll get an errant throw.

Our D is better than their D. We'll cause 3 and outs and it'll come down to the 2 points the cost us to lose our two games. Offensive turnovers, and capitalizing on the 3 and outs that our D provides by scoring.

Taylor will be covering Shockey for the most part, along with Marshall. Springs can handle Burress, Walt can handle Toomer or whoever is their #2, Rogers will be fine with their 3rd WR.

This will be a tough, evenly fought, game.

The Giants came back and edged Denver. The Redskins came back and lost by a hand. The Giants won on a dry field at home. It's tough to play at Giant Stadium if you aren't the Giants (and sometimes if you are the Giants and the crowd gets snarly).

Im gonna go on the record and say...not a close game. Don't accuse me of being over confident. I really belive this one.

The Hogster wrote:Im gonna go on the record and say...not a close game. Don't accuse me of being over confident. I really belive this one.

I also feel a blowout... I dont want to be overconfident but i definetly feel we have a serious edge on both sides of the ball.

Good, we need more cocky people on the bandwagon!

This badboy is gassed up and ready to roll!

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Good, we need more cocky people on the bandwagon!

This badboy is gassed up and ready to roll!

Yep...Just check my sig line

I still think that we will win at the last moment like the games before the 49ers game...remeber wht the giants did to the Broncos...they came back and beat them.....I will not say that this will be easy, but I think our offense is better, and our defense is way better...so I think we'll win.....27-21.....

win by 3 in a close game and Eli brakes ankle in pre game.

SkinsJock wrote:Their offense is 15th and their passing offense is 13th - they are not a very good team offensively and as you pointed outthey are next to last defensively!. They have been very lucky and that is over!

The point spread of Giants -3 is a betting line only and goes to prove how many stupid (betting) people live in NY - that is BS!

This is a W! next up, the iggles at home!

Line line is now Giants -2. I think that's good news?

The Hogster wrote:This year's Giants in my opinion are not a legitimate contender.

I disagree. I feel that the NFC East is up for grabs for the first time over the last five years. ANY team in it can win it. Eli is showing signs of maturity.

We have never had it easy against them or within the Division. This is going to be a hard-fought game from the first quarter to the last 2 minutes.

Lots of hard hitting, hopefully not too many injuries to either side.