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2005 Moss vs. 2004 Redskins Offense

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:34 am
by ANT7088
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Redskins' Moss Takes Great Strides

Santana Moss's cell phone rang as the Washington Redskins bused to Dulles Airport on Saturday afternoon, when he learned that his little brother, Sinorice, had just taken a screen pass 92 yards for a touchdown for the University of Miami. The elder Moss, Miami's all-time leading wide receiver, called Sinorice when the Redskins landed in Kansas City, Mo., to congratulate him, and 24 hours later, Sinorice, a senior wide receiver, returned the favor after Santana thrashed the Chiefs for 173 yards, including a 78-yard touchdown on a screen pass.

"To be honest with you, I think me and my little brother made history," Santana Moss said. "No bull. After his game I was like: 'Bro, you did something I never did. Congratulations.' I always have so much pride in him and always tell him to keep going and keep doing things I haven't done. I never did that on a screen before. And then I come back and do it, and when I'm running down that sideline with the ball I'm thinking: 'Look at this. I was just talking to him about this the night before.' I always tell him, 'Every time you do something on Saturday, it motivates me on Sunday to go out and do mine.' "

This has been a season of firsts for Moss, as he continues to set career marks each weekend in his first season in Washington and help revamp what had been a dormant offense. He has set personal highs for receiving yards and longest touchdown catch twice in a four-game span, leads or is near the lead in most NFL receiving categories and has been the league's premier big-play receiver, with the latest example being his 78-yard blast after taking a 10-yard horizontal pass from Mark Brunell.

The Redskins (3-2) hoped Moss, 26, would make a significant impact, after trading top wideout Laveranues Coles to the New York Jets, incurring a $9 million salary cap hit and then signing Moss to a six-year, $31 million deal (with $11 million guaranteed). Through five games, he has exceeded expectations and is on the cusp on joining the upper echelon of wide receivers. Moss is on pace for a monumental season -- 106 catches for 2,019 yards (the NFL record is 1,848 by Jerry Rice) and 13 touchdowns, which would also set franchise records for touchdown receptions and equal Art Monk's single-season reception mark.

"I don't think anybody could dream that a guy comes in one year and tries to get used to everybody, and for him to be that productive," Coach Joe Gibbs said. "Obviously, we couldn't be more pleased or more impressed. And his attitude is great. He just loves being in practice, he's really pretty quiet, he doesn't say a whole lot; he just hustles himself silly trying to make plays."

Moss, selected 16th overall in 2001, and Brunell personify Washington's dramatic offensive rebirth. In 2004, the Redskins ranked 30th in total offense, 29th in passing and 28th in third-down efficiency. Now, the Redskins stand sixth in offense, eighth in passing yards per game and third in third-down efficiency; passer and receiver account for a bulk of the yardage, and Moss is tied for the NFL lead in third-down catches while Brunell ranks seventh with a 93.4 rating on third down.

A game has yet to go by in which Moss, who never caught more than 74 passes for 1,105 yards in four seasons with the Jets, has not stood out.

Moss, whose youngest brother, Lloyd Jr., is a freshman wide receiver at Florida International, has eight catches of 30 yards or more and at least one in each of the team's five games; the Redskins had 10 such plays all of last season and no receiver had more than three. Moss has three plays of 50 yards or more; the Redskins had one reception of 50 yards in 2004. Moss already has touchdowns of 78, 70 and 39 yards; the Redskins' longest touchdown reception last season was 18 yards, their only scoring pass over 15 yards. Moss has at least 87 yards receiving in all five games; a Redskin reached that total five times total in 2004. Moss already has two multiple-touchdown receptions games; the Redskins had two such games as a team in 2004.

"I feel like I'm back in college, honest to God, truly," said Moss, who set numerous Big East track and field records at Miami. "That's what we did in college. The things I'm doing now, it's no different from the University of Miami. We took our chances when it came and made something happen; that's what you want as a guy who can make plays.

"You can be the fastest guy on the team, but if you get the ball four times and they spread it out once here and once the next blue moon, that doesn't make you who you are. And I think the more times you see the ball, the more opportunities you get, the more comfortable you are with the game and you can go out there and see those things. So true and all I do feel that, and I think that comes with the opportunity."

In Week 2, Moss (listed generously at 5 feet 10, 190 pounds) caught touchdown bombs of 70 and 39 yards in a 71-second span to stun Dallas with a 14-13 defeat, then bested his totals Sunday in Kansas City, tying a career high with 10 catches and setting a personal record with 173 yards. He has shown an ability to get behind the defense and latch on to deep passes, and has the speed and instincts to gain abundant yards after the catch as well, such as taking the screen pass 78 yards against the Chiefs.

"I knew he was good, but he's amazing me every time," said left tackle Chris Samuels, who delivered a crucial block on the screen Sunday. "Just on that receiver screen, I blocked my guy and I looked up and I just saw Santana tight-walking the sidelines and he blazed by this guy. I mean, this guy had the angle and everything, and it was no chance for him to catch Santana. He's amazing me every time we step out and play a game."

Moss's desire to return punts and nonstop work rate -- including racing 80 yards and tackling Kansas City safety Sammy Knight in the end zone to try to prevent a fumble return for a touchdown Sunday -- immediately endeared him to the Redskins. His game-changing attributes -- such as three clutch catches for 52 yards and a touchdown on one drive Sunday when it was apparent Brunell was favoring him -- have only heightened that popularity.

"It's like PlayStation," safety Matt Bowen said. "That's the best way to put it. You know when you're playing video games and you throw it to your hot guy the whole game? That's what it's like. It's amazing to watch. He's a great guy to have in the locker room, too. He's a great addition to this team and to this city, really. I think this city needs to embrace him as one of D.C.'s own. He's that special of a player."


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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:00 am
by gay4pacman
=D> welcome to dc santana!

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:08 am
by hatsOFF2gibbs
Remember, "Got Moss?"
Yea we got him! The dude's crazy...we just have to keep him healthy. His capabilities on offense have actually given us a big play potential. What we need now is JGibbs to allow the quarterback to throw it to him on deep passes more often. Take MORE chances! Scare the defense off so CP will actually have a chance! It's 1st and 10, bomb it! Even if you don't catch the ball.....at least it'll open up the defense! They should open up the deep field now that we know that Santana can catch it and that Brunell has the arm to throw it! We've only gone to the big play when we are desperate. Why not go for these big plays DURING the normal game? Why only during the last two minutes?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:20 am
by DieselFan
Time to get my Moss jersey?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:37 am
by Skinna Mob
hatsOFF2gibbs wrote:Remember, "Got Moss?"
Yea we got him! The dude's crazy...we just have to keep him healthy. His capabilities on offense have actually given us a big play potential. What we need now is JGibbs to allow the quarterback to throw it to him on deep passes more often. Take MORE chances! Scare the defense off so CP will actually have a chance! It's 1st and 10, bomb it! Even if you don't catch the ball.....at least it'll open up the defense! They should open up the deep field now that we know that Santana can catch it and that Brunell has the arm to throw it! We've only gone to the big play when we are desperate. Why not go for these big plays DURING the normal game? Why only during the last two minutes?


I strongly agree. Its just i think Gibbs still likes to controll the game and clock as you see. But if we can get teams scared of that deep ball or just the passing game. CP will be off to the races, and we can stop hearing about how many TD's he scored in denver. The offense is definitely coming together...we need to open a can of "whoop" this weekend and just run them fools out of town!!!

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:57 pm
by spenser
All i know is im happy that we signed him to a contract before the season! if we didnt then he would want Randy Moss money! And to think L.Coles was ripping on Gibbs offense! What a punk.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:43 pm
by 1niksder
Santana burns Jets

Trade looking bad in a hurry
Jets' Insider


By RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER


Laveranues Coles pointed to Jets when he forced trade from Skins...


...but Santana Moss is fast becoming better receiver in the deal.

Once again, the Redskins believe they've pulled a fast one on the Jets. Or, shall we say, stole a fast one?
Speedster Santana Moss, traded to Washington last March in a straight-up deal for Laveranues Coles, has turned into the dynamic playmaker the Jets envisioned when they drafted him in the first round in 2001. Moss, the talk of the Beltway, is second in the NFL with 631 receiving yards and he's averaging 19.1 yards per catch.

Redskins coach Joe Gibbs hasn't seen anything as fast as Moss since his days in NASCAR. The Jets, meanwhile, are suffering from a glaring lack of speed on offense. It's obvious to anyone who watches them play, and there are people in the organization who feel the same way.

"Santana stretches the field, horizontally and vertically," one NFC coordinator said yesterday. "You have to know where he is at all times. The Jets don't have anybody like that. Moss could've been the same player for the Jets, but they didn't have anybody to get him the ball. It was so obvious it was scary."

That was a knock on Chad Pennington. The Jets, aware of Pennington's downfield limitations, traded for Coles because they felt he'd be a better fit than Moss. But they went and hired a coordinator, Mike Heimerdinger, who believes in a downfield passing game. Go figure.

It's way too soon to trash Terry Bradway for making the trade, especially since Coles is handicapped by a disastrous quarterback situation, but it has become apparent that the general manager left his offense a little shy in the speed department.

The Jets have yet to make a pass play longer than 37 yards. When a 32-year-old running back is responsible for your two longest plays, you know something is amiss. They may not have the arm or the protection to make plays downfield, but they also don't have any players who can take a short pass and turn it into a huge gain. On Sunday, Moss caught a screen and bolted for a 78-yard touchdown.

There are some whispers around the league that Coles isn't the same player because of a chronic toe injury that occurred in 2003. The Redskins wanted him to have surgery, but he refused, leading to his bitter divorce.

From all indications, Coles, a tough hombre, hasn't complained about his toe since coming to the Jets. But the numbers speak loudly: In 36 games since the toe injury, he has 182 receptions, an 11.9 average, seven touchdowns and only three receptions of at least 40 yards.

Coles' pre-toe numbers: 186 receptions, 15.0, 14 and five, respectively.

Down in Washington, Daniel Snyder and his minions must be enjoying quite a laugh, thinking they got the best of the receiver swap. Gibbs loves Moss, who is thriving in the same so-called conservative offense that made Coles want to leave.

"When he hits the ground with (the ball)," Gibbs said of Moss, "I don't think many people are faster."


They are slowly catching on as to what has happened

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:15 am
by hatsOFF2gibbs
Sweet. :twisted:

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:42 am
by skinsdeep
My brother is a Jets fan and he always was trying to rub the whole 'Moss for Coles' deal in my face saying I got the brunt end of the deal. Now who's laughing? I really think that Moss has potential to be one of the best, elite, wide receivers in the NFL. He's got big play ability due to his blazing speed. On that 72 yard jog down the sideline against KC, it seemed like any other WR, or CP for that matter, would have gotten caught half way through. Mark my words, "Santana is in line for a BreakOut season."

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:23 am
by gay4pacman
haha sorry jets ....you guys :puke: