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George Solomon calls Fedex Fans Bush League

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:58 pm
by DCGloryYears828791
As i was going through some articles i came across an article written by the Washington Posts George Solomon. While i was drawn to it because of the interview with Doug Williams, Solomon ends the article with the most ludacris statement i have ever heard in professional sports. If this was posted before sorry i couldn't find it in the search engine!

My question is simple. What happened to the Washington Post, i thought our home paper would cover us well and leave the bad press to the NY Times and Dallas Fort Worth Star. We always complain about how the media views us but our own newspapers degrade the skins daily. Good riddance to Nunyo, i hope Solomon is on his way out of town as well. Anyways heres the article for a good laugh

By George Solomon

Sunday, September 18, 2005; Page E02

Doug Williams knows how recently demoted Patrick Ramsey feels. In his four years working for Joe Gibbs as a quarterback for the Redskins from 1986 to '89 he bounced from holding clipboards for Jay Schroeder and Mark Rypien to becoming most valuable player of Super Bowl XXII in Washington's 42-10 victory over Denver in 1988 and on to a sad farewell a year later.

Demotions and promotions were part of life for Williams in his 11-year pro career, which began in Tampa Bay in 1978 and included stops in Oklahoma (1984) and Arizona (1985) of the U.S. Football League before signing with the Redskins as a backup in 1986, when he threw one pass.



Despite being named MVP of Super Bowl XXII in 1988, Doug Williams, above, knows how Patrick Ramsey feels. (By Amy Sancetta -- Associated Press)

At 50, Williams is now a personnel executive for the Buccaneers, with a successful head coaching run at Grambling and a brief assistant coaching stint at Navy on his résumé. His four years working for Gibbs included being an afterthought, surprise starter, MVP/star, replaced and displaced.

"Joe Gibbs is one guy who makes a decision he believes will help the team win," Williams said in a telephone interview. "He always told me he had to cut personal feelings from personnel decisions. Even when his decisions went against me, I found him an honorable guy. I came here from the USFL and was thankful for the opportunity. When I wasn't playing, I still felt I was the best quarterback. But I dealt with the situation. I was humble by the way I came up. There were few black quarterbacks in the league and I had the chance to compete for playing time. That's all you can ask. I considered it a privilege to play in the league."

I had a similar conversation with Williams last season, when the roles were reversed and Ramsey took over for Mark Brunell. Williams's view this time: "Brunell better play his [rear end] off; Ramsey ought to take what happened and work at getting better. And if you ask for a trade, make sure you know someone wants you. Joe won't throw Jason Campbell to the wolves, but he won't let him sit forever, either."

After last Sunday's game, which the Redskins won against Chicago, 9-7, Gibbs watchers left FedEx Field convinced he would replace Ramsey with Brunell for Monday night's game in Dallas. Statements such as "Mark doesn't make mistakes; I'm sure glad he's back" and not saying Ramsey would start if healthy were hints enough.

Gibbs was wise to officially announce the switch last Monday. But he was wrong to name Ramsey the starter last January rather than keep the position open for a competition that Brunell would have won this summer. "It's something I needed to do," Gibbs explained, if not to the satisfaction of Ramsey and a growing number of fans becoming disenchanted with the coach.

I agree with Gibbs's move to Brunell -- as well as with my friend, the Ol' Ball Coach, who used to say, "If one guy can't do it, try the other guy." What I do not agree with is Gibbs congratulating the fans at FedEx Field for making so much noise Bears QB Kyle Orton had trouble getting off his plays. I call that behavior bush league. In similar situations at NFL stadiums, the QB should step back and wait for the noise to subside, or until the home team is hit with a 15-yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:01 pm
by HailSkins94
People still read the comPOST?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:02 pm
by ejay183
So, its bad when we support our team and make noise. I thought that was home field advantage?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:05 pm
by Deadskins
Uh, McFly, it's called the home-field advantage. Heard of it? 12th man, and all that. That's why teams have a silent count. This guy must not cover football. Is he an advice columnist?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:11 pm
by DCGloryYears828791
JSPB22 wrote:Uh, McFly, it's called the home-field advantage. Heard of it? 12th man, and all that. That's why teams have a silent count. This guy must not cover football. Is he an advice columnist?


Thats the scariest part he was actually serious and writes for the sports column! If it wasn't for Tony Kornheiser and Wilbon id boycott the post just like ESPNs Fatboy and SI's Pig Vomit King

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:17 pm
by Jake
:shock:

Oh my God. I can't even laugh at that. I'm stunned. Has he ever been to a football game before?

That's what fans are supposed to do.

I claim this article: bush league.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:17 pm
by hkHog
In similar situations at NFL stadiums, the QB should step back and wait for the noise to subside, or until the home team is hit with a 15-yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.


He has obviously never been to an NFL, college, or even a high school football game. Let the noise subside?! That's never going to happen. And I've NEVER heard of a team getting a penalty because the fans were making too much noise. The reason, it's in no way against the rules or unexpected. Teams actually practice going on silent counts because they know it's PART OF THE GAME! This guy doesn't have a clue about football!

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:20 pm
by ChrisHanburger
"Is he an advice columnist?" Thats hilarious. LMAO

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:21 pm
by Deadskins
Not only that, but the fact is that the crowd noise actually helped us win the game. At one point Chicago was across midfield, very close to FG range and driving the ball. Three straight false starts later they were back across midfield, and had to punt.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:21 pm
by Redskins1974
That really is bizarre. It makes no sense. That's about all I have to say.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:28 pm
by hailskins666
In similar situations at NFL stadiums, the QB should step back and wait for the noise to subside, or until the home team is hit with a 15-yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.
:shock: ever heard of a 'delay of game penalty' there jackass? this is by far the dumbest thing i have ever read.... bar none.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:28 pm
by Deadskins
Back in the 70s I remember QBs taking a step back, and the refs would actually stop the clock. Sometimes it would take several tries, but eventually the team would run a play. There was never a penalty called. I think they changed the rules to avoid the delays, but that was a long time ago. This guy is from the stone age.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:31 pm
by cvillehog
Hmm, maybe he is more of a basketball guy. In college we got a warning at a basketball game. :)

Re: George Solomon calls Fedex Fans Bush League

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:52 pm
by Steve Spurrier III
In similar situations at NFL stadiums, the QB should step back and wait for the noise to subside, or until the home team is hit with a 15-yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.


I would love nothing more to see a quarterback waiting for the home team to be hit with an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, only to have the play clock run out.

What a loser.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:13 pm
by Gibbs' Hog
That statement in the article is just plain stupid. It's like asking the Eagles' fans to stop booing their own guys.


C'mon; it's gonna happen - why not let the coach be proud of his fans?






And like others have said....isn't that what home field advantage is all about?


From this guy's perspective, we should now eliminate 'The Wave', those corny D IIII (fence) signs, the graphic on the big screen that tells people to make noise on 3rd down, etc.

Oh, and while we're at it, we should slap a 300 yd. penalty on any player who raises their arms up to get the crowd going... :lol:


:roll: what a moron.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:29 pm
by Punu
hmmmm I guess you could say that bout a lot of the coaches then... On NFL network I personally saw Brian Billick come on and invite fans to come out to the home opener to make noise, to distract the other team, to do whatever they could to help out and be the 12th man.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:33 pm
by The Hogster
Unbelieveable :shock: :shock: :shock:

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:50 pm
by hkHog
Jake wrote:I claim this article: bush league.


ROTFALMAO

That's classic Jake!

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:58 pm
by Redskins Rule
That is truely the dumbest thing I've ever read!

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:53 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Please!

If anyone lives in Baltimore and is attending this weeks game please come past my house. I'll provide you with poster board and marker. All I ask is that someone make a sign that can be shown on TV of how much of an idiot this guy is.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:57 pm
by FiveWidez
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.....This guy is an idiot. I have never heard a more absurd statement. Good for Snyder for taking away the Post's season tickets.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:00 pm
by SkinsChic
WOW ! :shock:

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:53 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Dan Snyder versus Washington Post = Biased news against the Skins

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:20 pm
by football
i cant believe a sports writer would be such an idiot about sports. my 5 year old nephew knows better. so stupid

:thump:

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:29 pm
by Fios
I agree with Solomon; football is about being nice and group hugs for charity and halftime snack packs and juice boxes, plus naps and fairy tales, flowers and lollipops; shame on all of you who made the jobs of the men making more money than most of us will ever see somewhat harder