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The picture you've been waiting for...
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:25 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
There are soo many ramsey threads that I had no idea where to stick this. However, here it is. Mods, move if neccesary.

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:21 pm
by redskincity
Urlacher is standing there like "Here it comes!"
SAD.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:23 pm
by skinsfano28
oh boy...that's like watching something coming and knowing its going to wreak havoc. one picture i'd love to see is impact of his arm on ramsey's neck, from the side. just to see the shockwave that goes through ramsey. that'd be pretty sweet. good find though, cll
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:31 pm
by NikiH
My whole thing is this, look at that picture. He had no play on Ramsey prior to the ball being released unless he does something dirty. And he chooses to do the wrong thing, the league better fine him.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:47 pm
by The Hogster
I think Jansen made it worst by bulldozing him into Ramsey too.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:08 pm
by Primetime42
NikiH wrote:My whole thing is this, look at that picture. He had no play on Ramsey prior to the ball being released unless he does something dirty. And he chooses to do the wrong thing, the league better fine him.
I don't think it was intentional as far as hurting him Niki, just seemed like an instinct.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:08 pm
by redskins12287
The Hogster wrote:I think Jansen made it worst by bulldozing him into Ramsey too.
Its a natural reaction for a linemen to push someone running at their QB. As I remember it, the SOB was already in the air for some freakn' reason when Jansen pushed him.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:19 pm
by SkinsLaVar
Ramsey can take Anything
He's made of steal.
Re: The picture you've been waiting for...
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:26 pm
by skinpride1
Chris Luva Luva wrote:There are soo many ramsey threads that I had no idea where to stick this. However, here it is. Mods, move if neccesary.


Poor guy- what a way for it to all end as a Redskin.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:36 pm
by hailskins666

this is the point i was trying to make in the 'stick a fork in ramsey' thread sunday. our line has plays that move the pocket. ramsey is a statue. brunell moves the pocket. it just seemed VERY VERY evident to me that ramsey was out of place trying to do what he was doing, early in the game. i like the kid a lot. i watched all preseaon, plus most of the early part of training camp. i've pulled for him. but he has been outplayed since being named as the starter after last season. he just isn't delievering the performance we need right now. i'm a realist, gibbs drafted campell for a reason. ramsey needed to make his best drew brees imitation often and EARLY. he didn't. he looked like a deer in headlights as always. gibbs was given the chance to take him out without having to wait. i just hope if brunell struggles again, campell will get some time in the seat.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:20 am
by The Hogster
SkinsLaVar wrote:Ramsey can take Anything
He's made of steal.
Good I hope he can take being the backup.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:01 am
by Chris Luva Luva
I have nothing to add except that Im posting this from my psp. It took forever to type this.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:39 am
by hailskins666
The Hogster wrote:SkinsLaVar wrote:Ramsey can take Anything
He's made of steal.
Good I hope he can take being the backup.
...

brutal truth.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:14 am
by Fios
hailskins666 wrote::( this is the point i was trying to make in the 'stick a fork in ramsey' thread sunday. our line has plays that move the pocket. ramsey is a statue. brunell moves the pocket. it just seemed VERY VERY evident to me that ramsey was out of place trying to do what he was doing, early in the game. i like the kid a lot. i watched all preseaon, plus most of the early part of training camp. i've pulled for him. but he has been outplayed since being named as the starter after last season. he just isn't delievering the performance we need right now. i'm a realist, gibbs drafted campell for a reason. ramsey needed to make his best drew brees imitation often and EARLY. he didn't. he looked like a deer in headlights as always. gibbs was given the chance to take him out without having to wait. i just hope if brunell struggles again, campell will get some time in the seat.
That's the most reassuring thing I have read on this whole debacle, well said
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:13 pm
by Redskins Rule
hailskins666 wrote:brunell moves the pocket.
Brunnell can move a pocket, but can he throw a football too???
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:19 pm
by redskins12287
Redskins Rule wrote:hailskins666 wrote:brunell moves the pocket.
Brunnell can move a pocket, but can he throw a football too???
Yes, he can. He did well in pre-season and played decently on sunday. Theres no wey hes anywhere close to being an elite QB, but right now, Ramsey just isn't getting it done.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:57 pm
by Redskin in Canada
The Hogster wrote:I think Jansen made it worst by bulldozing him into Ramsey too.
Not so. Jansen could not cover two guys at the same time. He did not make his mind to block one -or- the other in time.
Nobody picked up the blitz. It was a good defensive call for Da Bears.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:55 pm
by hkiss444
No wonder the Ref missed the call. He was too busy taking pictures.
Ramsey gets worked on
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:50 pm
by diesel44
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:52 pm
by diesel44
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:01 pm
by The Hogster
Redskin in Canada wrote:The Hogster wrote:I think Jansen made it worst by bulldozing him into Ramsey too.
Not so. Jansen could not cover two guys at the same time. He did not make his mind to block one -or- the other in time.
Nobody picked up the blitz. It was a good defensive call for Da Bears.
Settle down there chap. Im not picking on Jansen, I am saying that his effort to push Briggs out of the was vailant but it increased the impact on Ramsey. He actually did get a good shove on him, problem was the guy was in the air and already landing on Ram.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:04 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
The Hogster wrote:Redskin in Canada wrote:The Hogster wrote:I think Jansen made it worst by bulldozing him into Ramsey too.
Not so. Jansen could not cover two guys at the same time. He did not make his mind to block one -or- the other in time.
Nobody picked up the blitz. It was a good defensive call for Da Bears.
Settle down there chap. Im not picking on Jansen, I am saying that his effort to push Briggs out of the was vailant but it increased the impact on Ramsey. He actually did get a good shove on him, problem was the guy was in the air and already landing on Ram.
If Patrick had some freaking pocket prescence maybe he would have picked up on the blitz.
No, Im not pinning this all on Ramsey but it can't be pinned on Jansen either. It was a blitz and a good one at that. Patrick as usual had his feet in cement.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:15 pm
by Texas Hog
Chris Luva Luva wrote:The Hogster wrote:Redskin in Canada wrote:The Hogster wrote:I think Jansen made it worst by bulldozing him into Ramsey too.
Not so. Jansen could not cover two guys at the same time. He did not make his mind to block one -or- the other in time.
Nobody picked up the blitz. It was a good defensive call for Da Bears.
Settle down there chap. Im not picking on Jansen, I am saying that his effort to push Briggs out of the was vailant but it increased the impact on Ramsey. He actually did get a good shove on him, problem was the guy was in the air and already landing on Ram.
If Patrick had some freaking pocket prescence maybe he would have picked up on the blitz.
No, Im not pinning this all on Ramsey but it can't be pinned on Jansen either. It was a blitz and a good one at that. Patrick as usual had his feet in cement.
I agree on the lack of pocket presense comment and will add that I'm pretty sure Patrick actually stepped up and into the hit...making it worse. Didn't anyone else see him step up into the hit?
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:19 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
If you're correct than thank you.
I will admit that Patrick has improved significantly in this awareness and ability to step up in the pocket. Patrick got a raw deal from us. He entered into this team in the midst of turmoil and he's still feeling the effects of ridding it from our franchise.
Ramsey needs to just ask for a trade and leave. I wont have any bitter feelings towards him, the Skins have simply screwed his career. Its that simple. Patrick isn't a Brady or a Manning, he needed to be nurtured and eased into this and quite simply he wasn't.
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:38 pm
by Redskin in Canada
The Hogster wrote:Settle down there chap. Im not picking on Jansen,
aux contraire, mon ami!
I am pointing at Jansen for his inablity to pick one -or- another Bear
in time. There was one too many attackers on the right hand side of the line in that blitz.