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Post picks the Skins to finish ... (drum roll)

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:06 pm
by Fios
dead last in the NFC East ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/colfoot/longterm/2005/preview/front.htm ... what a pathetic, petulant little passive agressive way to prolong their spat with the Danny

Re: Post picks the Skins to finish ... (drum roll)

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:07 pm
by cvillehog
Fios wrote:dead last in the NFC East ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/colfoot/longterm/2005/preview/front.htm ... what a pathetic, petulant little passive agressive way to prolong their spat with the Danny


It's not as if they are the only ones picking us to bring up the rear in the NFC East. Not exactly a daring pick.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:14 pm
by Fios
It's one thing for the idiotic Joe Schmo self-appointed expert to make this pick, it's another thing entirely for a paper that ostensibly covers the Skins, and the NFC East, in an extremely thorough fashion. Especially when said paper of record features an article on the genius of Greg Williams in the very same issue.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:55 pm
by GibbsLombardi
I love the fact that we're being underestimated. That was a halmark of the glory days as well as a halmark of the early glory days of the Patriots.

Other teams will build their teams and strongest game plans around the opponents they expect to be the toughest. Opposing players will not get as excited if they don't see us as "the big game". Our players conversely will have a chip on their shoulders with something to prove.

Reporters just count the superstars on offense and predict victory. Gibbs, Lombardi, and the Patriots build a "Team mentality" rather than a superstar system. Look at who Gibbs used the first time around. Rypien, Shroeder, and Williams were not superstars until Gibbs showed them that they could be better as a team than as individuals. Jacobi was one of the greatest offensive linemen in history and yet wasn't even drafted.

The moral of the story is that Gibbs is a hall of fame coach with more knowledge of what it takes to build a winning team than all of the reporters combined. When Peter King, Fat Lenny, and Dr Z go to four superbowls, (not even counting being one game away a few more times) then they can tell him how to run a team. Until then, they should stop pretending they are Nostradamus and stick to the facts.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:24 pm
by Fo_Block
GibbsLombardi wrote:I love the fact that we're being underestimated. That was a halmark of the glory days as well as a halmark of the early glory days of the Patriots.

Other teams will build their teams and strongest game plans around the opponents they expect to be the toughest. Opposing players will not get as excited if they don't see us as "the big game". Our players conversely will have a chip on their shoulders with something to prove.

Reporters just count the superstars on offense and predict victory. Gibbs, Lombardi, and the Patriots build a "Team mentality" rather than a superstar system. Look at who Gibbs used the first time around. Rypien, Shroeder, and Williams were not superstars until Gibbs showed them that they could be better as a team than as individuals. Jacobi was one of the greatest offensive linemen in history and yet wasn't even drafted.

The moral of the story is that Gibbs is a hall of fame coach with more knowledge of what it takes to build a winning team than all of the reporters combined. When Peter King, Fat Lenny, and Dr Z go to four superbowls, (not even counting being one game away a few more times) then they can tell him how to run a team. Until then, they should stop pretending they are Nostradamus and stick to the facts.



if team mentality means whining until you get more money than i couldn't agree with you more.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:25 pm
by Fo_Block
GibbsLombardi wrote:I love the fact that we're being underestimated. That was a halmark of the glory days as well as a halmark of the early glory days of the Patriots.

Other teams will build their teams and strongest game plans around the opponents they expect to be the toughest. Opposing players will not get as excited if they don't see us as "the big game". Our players conversely will have a chip on their shoulders with something to prove.

Reporters just count the superstars on offense and predict victory. Gibbs, Lombardi, and the Patriots build a "Team mentality" rather than a superstar system. Look at who Gibbs used the first time around. Rypien, Shroeder, and Williams were not superstars until Gibbs showed them that they could be better as a team than as individuals. Jacobi was one of the greatest offensive linemen in history and yet wasn't even drafted.

The moral of the story is that Gibbs is a hall of fame coach with more knowledge of what it takes to build a winning team than all of the reporters combined. When Peter King, Fat Lenny, and Dr Z go to four superbowls, (not even counting being one game away a few more times) then they can tell him how to run a team. Until then, they should stop pretending they are Nostradamus and stick to the facts.


1 more thing:

the only thing about the redskins being underestimated is how weak the schedule is. the redskins are an avg team at best playing 1 of the easiest schedules in the league that will make 9-7 a possibility but more realistically 7-9 or 8-8. if the redskins were in the afc they would win 3 or 4 games at most.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:06 pm
by 1niksder
Fo_Block wrote:
GibbsLombardi wrote:I love the fact that we're being underestimated. That was a halmark of the glory days as well as a halmark of the early glory days of the Patriots.

Other teams will build their teams and strongest game plans around the opponents they expect to be the toughest. Opposing players will not get as excited if they don't see us as "the big game". Our players conversely will have a chip on their shoulders with something to prove.

Reporters just count the superstars on offense and predict victory. Gibbs, Lombardi, and the Patriots build a "Team mentality" rather than a superstar system. Look at who Gibbs used the first time around. Rypien, Shroeder, and Williams were not superstars until Gibbs showed them that they could be better as a team than as individuals. Jacobi was one of the greatest offensive linemen in history and yet wasn't even drafted.

The moral of the story is that Gibbs is a hall of fame coach with more knowledge of what it takes to build a winning team than all of the reporters combined. When Peter King, Fat Lenny, and Dr Z go to four superbowls, (not even counting being one game away a few more times) then they can tell him how to run a team. Until then, they should stop pretending they are Nostradamus and stick to the facts.


1 more thing:

the only thing about the redskins being underestimated is how weak the schedule is. the redskins are an avg team at best playing 1 of the easiest schedules in the league that will make 9-7 a possibility but more realistically 7-9 or 8-8. if the redskins were in the afc they would win 3 or 4 games at most.

Just because the Jets are only looking at a hnadfull of "W"s this year doesn't mean the SKins will have the same fate.

How can you post that the Skins have a easy schedule that will allow atleast 7 wins, and in the next sentence say if they were in the AFC they'd only win 3-4 games.

Are you hatin' or would you care to enlighten us as to how you came to this conclussion?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:12 pm
by Smithian
I don't want to be liek the Pats...

It gets annoying when EVERYONE is like "the Patriots do" and stuff like that.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:00 pm
by riggofan
I don't see how anybody can pick us to finish behind the Giants. woeful! The Cowboys could go either way, and the Eagles still look tough unfortunately.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:12 pm
by Scottskins
Fo Block is still stuck on us stealing his players and sending the useless ones back.

The Redskins have one of, if not the best defense in the NFL. We also have one of the top OLines and a great RB. That alone will give us 8 wins without even taking into effect that we have two great receivers and an average to solid QB. Oh, almost forgot about our HOF coach and other top of the line coaches...

Pittsburgh won 15 games last year with a great defense, great running game and an average QB and receivers. It think we'll be just fine whether we are playing NFC, AFC or the best teams in the league...

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:50 am
by Fo_Block
Scottskins wrote:Fo Block is still stuck on us stealing his players and sending the useless ones back.



don't you mean overpaying for our players, realizing the err of your ways, and then paying again to fleeced in a trade.

nice cap management on that coles deal, and way to overpay AGAIN - for a 5'9 1 dimensional receiver.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:00 pm
by Scottskins
Fo_Block wrote:
Scottskins wrote:Fo Block is still stuck on us stealing his players and sending the useless ones back.



don't you mean overpaying for our players, realizing the err of your ways, and then paying again to fleeced in a trade.

nice cap management on that coles deal, and way to overpay AGAIN - for a 5'9 1 dimensional receiver.


Nope, sure didn't mean that :hmm:

We payed what Coles was worth. Nothing we can do about the fact that he screwed his foot up and then wouldn't have the problem corrected with surgery...

Cap management was pretty good. Coles was a freak accident. Only thing we could do is get rid of him. We are up against the cap next year, so by doing it the way we did, we take no hit from him next season. Overpay? Seriously doubt it. We paid Moss an average deal. Not bad for a gamechanger like Moss. If he stays healthy it becomes a great contract we gave him. We got the guy for free, gave him a mid level contract, he is head and shoulders above anything we had last season, what's not to like about that deal?

We got Moss and Patten for the same price as Coles was. I'm extremely happy about that.