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Let's just be glad he didn't stick around to get rich...

I still have a Spurrier signed mini-helmet if anybody's interested...

no seriously.....

If that were case, Danny Boy should have fired him on the spot for malfeasance (as Riggo had suggested with Marty Schottenheimer when the Skins were 0-5). He basically stole $10 million from the team (and ultimately fans like us who paid $79 per ticket to watch gross incompetence- remember when he had Danny Woeful kickoff?). Although I have no interest in SEC football, nothing would make me happier than to see the Gamecocks go 2-10 this year.

I agree with you. I am an SEC fan and always want the Gamecocks to go 2 - 20, but especially this season and probably the next few.

Spurriers legacy alone is enough punishment for him to endure. What a pathetic coach, and just as pathetic, a coward.

what a clown. he quit because no one in the free world thought D.W. could play but him.

BringThePain! wrote:Let's just be glad he didn't stick around to get rich...

I still have a Spurrier signed mini-helmet if anybody's interested...

no seriously.....

Well how much, but in all honesty I am telling you this as a fellow thn member. Keep that because Spurriers legacy as a college coach will make it worth some money. I am only willing to pay 10 or 15 bucks for it not much.

John Manfreda wrote:

BringThePain! wrote:Let's just be glad he didn't stick around to get rich...

I still have a Spurrier signed mini-helmet if anybody's interested...

no seriously.....

Well how much, but in all honesty I am telling you this as a fellow thn member. Keep that because Spurriers legacy as a college coach will make it worth some money. I am only willing to pay 10 or 15 bucks for it not much.

You're right. You think a Jets helmet signed by Lou Holtz would be worth some money?

South Carolina will be dreadful this year no doubt...

i don't really see how his players will be able to respect him after his tenure with the redskins, or buy into his system knowing that it doesn't really work on professional level.

die cowboys die wrote:i don't really see how his players will be able to respect him after his tenure with the redskins, or buy into his system knowing that it doesn't really work on professional level.

Its been proven to work on the college level, the difference being he wont have the best of the best to execute his nonsense.

Spurrier's system?

Goes like this....
day 1. play some golf
day 2. try to improve your handicap
day 3. meet the offense (play 9 holes afterwards)
day 4. find out who your d-coordinator is after you show up late and he parks in your spot; practice putting in your office
day 5. go over gameplan, decide once again to "go deep"
day 6. brush up on your short game
gameday. let everyone know you're actually watching the game by removing your headset and sighing. after game, address media with usual "well's" and "i tell you what's" , go to bed early, clean golf cleats.

South Carolina isn't eligible for the postseason anyway, there is still a ban on their football program for stuff that happened while lou holtz was coach.

i was a full supporter of SS, even through the thick...and not so thin. but now i see the error of my ways--the guy is flat out a quitter. i am a firm believer in vince lombardi's saying "quitters never win and winners never quit." i hope he never has a winning season again, and he is summarily dismissed from south carolina and loses all his credibility. its no more than he deserves for stealing two seasons from us, the fans.

spenser wrote:what a clown. he quit because no one in the free world thought D.W. could play but him.

AHEM!!!!
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Spurrier was not alone.

JPFair wrote:Spurriers legacy alone is enough punishment for him to endure. What a pathetic coach, and just as pathetic, a coward.

spurrier shouldn't all of the blame for his tenure w/the redskins. yeah he was a failure as HC but some of that had to be attributed to the overall lack of character on the team. i remember watching games where DE's would blow by samuels play after play and kill the qb. it's not spurrier's fault that the best o-lineman on the team was a turnstile.

spurrier is not without fault - but the blame should be shared by all, from snyder to the players.

spurrier shouldn't all of the blame for his tenure w/the redskins. yeah he was a failure as HC but some of that had to be attributed to the overall lack of character on the team. i remember watching games where DE's would blow by samuels play after play and kill the qb. it's not spurrier's fault that the best o-lineman on the team was a turnstile.

Authority can be delegated, but responsibility can not! The team lacked character because Spurrier was unable to instill character to the team, and is therefore the utter failure that he is. His system was flawed, his schemes were inept, and overall responsibility for the miserable record lies with him and him alone. While the players shoulder a certain level of responsibility, there is an old cliche that goes "The Buck Stops Here" or even "It all starts at the top". In other words, the on-field success, or lack thereof, of the Redskins during those two years lies squarely and entirely on Steve Spurriers shoulders.

For instance, how can a team have character when their own coach lacks the very character that you mention. What kind of example does it set when the coach is on the Golf course when he should be in the office. What kind of example does it set when the players show up at Redskins Park and find that the Coach is on vactaion. What kind of example does it set when the Head Coach phones in his resignation from a cell phone while on a golf course. The team had no character cuz Spurrier didn't have character. Win, Lose, or Draw, Joe Gibbs and a whole host of other succesfull Head Coaches in the NFL have shown that to be respected, you have to show respect. By Gibbs' work ethic alone, a sense of character and cohesion have been resonating from Redskins Park since January 7th of 2004. Even with the Redskins at 5-10 last year, the Redskins came to play against the Vikings and played hard. They played with a sense of passion, urgency, and meaning that was sorely lacking during Spurriers failed tenure. IMHO, that sense of character and the reason for it, lies solely with Joseph Jackson Gibbs. He has brought to this team everything that was missing while Spurrier was there. True, Joe Gibbs is not the only coach to instill character to their respective team, but I'm sure I can speak for copius amounts of people when I say I'm thankfull that we have Joe Gibbs doing what he does best.

Spurrier was a complete and utter failure no matter how you slice it up!! He was a loser and there's no way to sugar coat it. As a person and as a coach, at the Professional Football level he was a complte failure, and he will never get the opportunity again. He had a chance to show what he was made of, and instead chose to devote his time and resources to things other than The Redskins. He had a unique opportunity to lead by example, and he chose not to. Whether he liked it or not, he was the head coach and players follow the leader, or they don't win. Spurrier led by having a lousy attitude, having a flawed system, putting a QB's livelihood on the line with a failed system, and lost all motivation to succeed. His failure and his lack of willingness to devote time and energy towards the good of the franchise had a trickle down effect on the players, and even the fans. Steve Spurriers own failures as a Professional football coached trickled on down to the players, which resulted in a losing season(s). It's as simple as that.

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Spurrier was anything but a loser who was basically a boy sent to do a mans job. How he'll do in the SEC is a non-issue. It's a whole different ball-game in the NFL.

Nick Saban on the other hand, at least in my opinion, has shown that he has all the tools necessary to be a success on the big stage. That's just my opinion.

JPFair wrote:

spurrier shouldn't all of the blame for his tenure w/the redskins. yeah he was a failure as HC but some of that had to be attributed to the overall lack of character on the team. i remember watching games where DE's would blow by samuels play after play and kill the qb. it's not spurrier's fault that the best o-lineman on the team was a turnstile.

Authority can be delegated, but responsibility can not! The team lacked character because Spurrier was unable to instill character to the team, and is therefore the utter failure that he is. His system was flawed, his schemes were inept, and overall responsibility for the miserable record lies with him and him alone. While the players shoulder a certain level of responsibility, there is an old cliche that goes "The Buck Stops Here" or even "It all starts at the top". In other words, the on-field success, or lack thereof, of the Redskins during those two years lies squarely and entirely on Steve Spurriers shoulders.

i am not saying spurrier isn't without fault - just that you are laying too much on him. if i am not mistaken your beloved joe gibbs didn't fair much better last year.

if it was all spurrier's fault wouldn't the team have been better last year?

washington is the place players come to get paid, not to work hard and play for the team. spurrier didn't cause samuels to play like garbage, he didn't sign truong candidate, and he didn't make the receivers drop pass after pass. the talent on the team was in the bottom third in the league when he was coach and the record reflected that.

just my opinion, but i think that spurrier came to the nfl with an assumption that players paid millions of $ would be professional and motivate themselves - that was his biggest failing. when he couldn't get the players to put in the effort he became dejected and basically quit. the same thing happened to the NYG that season when the palyers basically quit of fassel.

When he was in Florida, I thought his 'incompetency' was a gimmick, his schtick... I thought he was just playing with the media with his off the wall commentary.

When he came to Washington, I found out his incompetence was real.

if i am not mistaken your beloved joe gibbs didn't fair much better last year.

Nonsense!! To even put a Steve Spurrier team in the same sentence as a Joe Gibbs team is ludicrous. Contrary to what you assert, those dropped passes, the blown coverages, Samuels play DID result from poor coaching. He had ample time to right a ship and instead he was going backwards in a hurry. Joe Gibbs at 6-10 last year was LIGHT YEARS ahead of what that team did before him. And furthermore, they'll be light years ahead of last years team this year. It's called progress and improvement. Spurriers ineptness showed on the field, and the team never took even one step forward. It was always backwards for Spurrier and it always will be. Gibbs is building something positive and it shows in the attitude of the players. If it fails, yes, it will be Joe Gibb's fault just like the fact that when Spurrier failed it was HIS fault, and no one elses. Spurrier was, is, and always will be a failure in the NFL. He will never be remembered for anything other than his failures as an NFL head coach. Now, if you wanna compare Spurrier to Gibbs, you better start throwing in Super Bowl trophies, hall of fame busts, and other things instead of comparing one season on the heels of Steve Spurrier as Gibbs' legacy. Spurrier couldn't even hold Joe Gibbs' clipboard.

[quote="skinsfano28"]South Carolina isn't eligible for the postseason anyway, there is still a ban on their football program for stuff that happened while lou holtz was coach.

WRONG. South Carolina will not be missing out on any bowl eligibility or TV appearances. Their punishment comes in the form of recruiting, losing maybe 2 scholarships.

Just cuz Spurrier is coaching the ball cocks now doesnt mean everyones gotta start hating on them. I habit to be a big fan of USC. Imagine the irony I'll be feeling a week from today when the same guy who gave up on my BOYS in the NFL, is about to lead my college team onto the field. WEIRD...

JPFair wrote:Joe Gibbs at 6-10 last year was LIGHT YEARS ahead of what that team did before him.

homerism at its finest.

what exactly are you referring to the explosive joe gibbs offense that ranked what, 30th in the league?

as bill parcells likes to say, "you are what your record says you are"

Fo_Block wrote:

JPFair wrote:Joe Gibbs at 6-10 last year was LIGHT YEARS ahead of what that team did before him.

homerism at its finest.

what exactly are you referring to the explosive joe gibbs offense that ranked what, 30th in the league?

as bill parcells likes to say, "you are what your record says you are"

So let me get this right......Are you saying that Coach Gibbs sucks just as much as Coach Spurrier???

What I'm saying is that The Redskins of last year, at 6-10 and the enthusiasm with which the team played during EVERY game, was a substantial amount of progress from the team the previous year. The Redskins of 2003 were, as you say, without character, fight, or even motivation. Joe Gibbs quickly restored that, though not translating to wins just yet. But, time will prove that what Joe Gibbs is doing right now will reap substantial dividends for this franchise.

I can fully understand your lack of belief in it, as you've had nothing of any substance to cheer for in the last 30 years, but you'll see. And, before you go suggesting that Joe Gibbs "sucks", you should take into consideration what he's done in the past, present and what he will do in the future. He deserves the respect that he gets throughout the league and throughout the country.

There are very few people, yourself being the exception, that would say last years Redskins team was not an improvement on the previous years Redskins team in EVERY facet of the game, be it coaching, playing, or fan support.

homerism at its finest.

what exactly are you referring to the explosive joe gibbs offense that ranked what, 30th in the league?

as bill parcells likes to say, "you are what your record says you are

Well, when Bill Parcells can say he's won three Super Bowls with three different QB's, then maybe we could give more weight (no pun intended) to what he says. But, until then, Joe Gibbs runs circles around Parcells and his record.

On a side note, I'd be willing to put a wager that this will be Parcells last year as coach of the Cowboys. When he realizes he can't win a championship with the doughboys, he'll quit again, just like he's done so many times before and just like Spurrier did. It's a character trait that a lot of losing coaches have, they like to quit!!

MarcusBeNimble wrote:

skinsfano28 wrote:South Carolina isn't eligible for the postseason anyway, there is still a ban on their football program for stuff that happened while lou holtz was coach.

WRONG. South Carolina will not be missing out on any bowl eligibility or TV appearances. Their punishment comes in the form of recruiting, losing maybe 2 scholarships.

Just cuz Spurrier is coaching the ball cocks now doesnt mean everyones gotta start hating on them. I habit to be a big fan of USC. Imagine the irony I'll be feeling a week from today when the same guy who gave up on my BOYS in the NFL, is about to lead my college team onto the field. WEIRD...

I feel sorry for you. Good luck to USC....but Spurrier is a boob.

Fo Block, to compare Gibbs to Spurrier is ridiculous, and why on earth would you quote Parcells on this site, unless your a puke fan?

Do you believe that a puke fan's opinion of how Spurrier performed in Washington or who was to blame for his lack of is taken seriously here?