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Got to get out of here...slowly suffocating to death....must find...new....employment!

Give us a hint Chad. What kind of job do you have? What do you want?

I'm a supervisor of a non-profit program working with developmentally disabled adults.

The problem is I wokr 60 hours a week and then have to have a second job to put food on the table. Plus, I'm tired of getting hit (physically) by the people I support. You can see why my field has a high burnout rate.

I've been thinking tha tI would like to get involved in some sort of business field....Real Estate, Sales....

I've also been thinking about Military contractor's, intelligence, Force Protection, etc.

Chad

You could be a re-store manager for Habitat - I think they actually make money too...



Or you could try to get a job with the Skins!

Friendly's is still hiring.

Gibbs' Hog wrote:You could be a re-store manager for Habitat - I think they actually make money too...

Huh? whats Habitat?

Gibbs' Hog wrote:Or you could try to get a job with the Skins!

That would rock! A close friend of mine from Boston used to work for the Patriots. They fired him and then went to the superbowl....We razz him as the bad luck charm!

Chad

Jake wrote:Friendly's is still hiring.

You haven't seen my local friendly's.....scary! Its all ex-cons. I mean they are friendly and all, but the guy with the teardrop tattoo scares my kids!

BTW, Check your PM's!

Chad

I'm usually very good at helping people find jobs that are out there. Lately I've taken on too much though. That's probably why I'm home sick today. I can help you next week, want to hang in there one more week?? lol

NikiH wrote:I'm usually very good at helping people find jobs that are out there. Lately I've taken on too much though. That's probably why I'm home sick today. I can help you next week, want to hang in there one more week?? lol

I was actually just kind of griping, though I am serious about finding a new job. I really appreciate the feedback. And yes, I can hang in there a while. I want out, but I'm not going to strand my staff. I'll put in at least a two-weeks notice and I'm not ready to do that just yet.

Chad

UH OH now you sound like Jansenfan. He does that to me all the time. I find him all these wonderful jobs and then he says, I can't really leave now. lol Men and change they just cannot hang!

Seriously chad I have become very good after months and months of looking so if you need some links just let me know.

No ex-cons at our Friendly's... that I know of.

Got the PM's.

You haven't lived until you've been served a Reese's Pieces Sunday by a man with four teeth and prison tattoo's.

Chad

So I have met you before?

I've been thinking tha tI would like to get involved in some sort of business field....Real Estate, Sales....

I've also been thinking about Military contractor's, intelligence, Force Protection, etc.

Think carefully about leaving the non-profit area, although I know that pay and benefits usually are awful. My wife is a social worker, and spent 15 years at a pair of non-proift agencies provided supportive housing for people with "special needs" (which means, as you probably know, the mentally ill, etc etc). A rewarding job, but not in a monetary way.

For-profit business can be utter garbage, as well. Be careful about real estate...at least my gut feel is that the real estate bubble is about to deflate. And a lot of people started selling real estate after they were "downsized" in the last five or ten years.

Sales, in general, is tough. I'm a computer programmer (more or less), and I work alongside sales reps. I would hate doing "cold calls". Or depending on commission for a serious part of my income.

Maybe you have the personality for it...some people do. They can sell anything. They like the challenge. But imagine yourself doing it first...

Thanks for the advice Welch.

I've been in the non-profit sector for about 4 years. I do like my co-workers, the office environment, etc. But non-profits (Especialy large non-profits) are increasing being ran like for profit businesses, plus you have the ever increasing buearacracy of accreditation, multiple funding sources each with their own regulations, etc. For profit businesses might be more buearacratic, but at least know one bites you during your day at the sales office.

As for sales, I think that I would be good at it. It suits my natural talents. Though it isn't the only field that I'm considering...but I have to consider something else because working 70 hours a week to barely pay the bills is getting old!

Chad

Have you considered school teaching?

Before taking any job these days, it is important to consider if the job offers family medical coverage, an adequate retirement plan, and long-term job security.

As I used to tell the youngsters leaving GE for the dot-coms, you'll do fine without benefits if you can stay 25 years old forever, never get sick, never get married, never have kids; otherwise, watch out.

I think school teaching offers benefits and security, although I don't know what teachers get paid.

Perhaps this comes from reflecting on my own life, so it's a personal romanticization. However, I've been a computer programmer and project lead for 25 years. I look at what I've left behind, and none of it lasts. Most projects were exciting as we did them, fun for us, but what else?

I remember my 7th grade math teacher, Mr Dietz, who started us on trigonometry and a little algebra, and who was a cheerleader for math and science in general. "You'll need to know about base-2 because that's what drives a computer's 'brain'", he would explain...as we asked why we should bother with weird numbering systems.

I remember my 11th grade English teacher / American literature, Mr Don Kauffman, Northwestern High School, because he got us to read the writers who changed my life. I had never heard of Emerson or Thoreau, barely knew anything about Hawthorne and Melville and Whitman, or Henry James or William Faulkner. I think I've been reading for Mr. Kauffman for the last 35 years, filling in the books I skimmed, re-reading Moby Dick and Walden every few years, finally finishing Henry James (I had used a "Cliff's Notes" on The Ambassadors I now confess).

So maybe this is my unique view, in my mid-50's, realizing that I can't reverse time and do something else. Maybe teachin is just as grinding as anything else. I don't know...
it's a suggestion.

School teaching is not a bad job at all. sure they pay snot, but the benefits are amazing. i know we could definitely use some cool teachers at my high school, most of our teachers are old and decrepit and have no inclination of changing their style to suit our learning style. plus, having a skins fan as a teacher wouldn't be too bad

I moved from a non-profit background to the for profit world about 3 years ago. I feel like my soul has been ripped of me with a dull spoon and my life is being sucked away from me. So, I would suggest looking for work in other non-profits or the education sector. Believe it or not, many non-profit's are paying much better than people think and their benefits are better. The bottom line is do what you think fits your personality and what your good at but if you enjoy the non-profit sector and money is the issue, find a better non-profit. If you truly feel you have something to offer in the for-profit world, go for it. Also, teachers salaries and the need for teachers is on the rise so don't count that out either.

Money isn't everything... it helps of course but just be careful what you wish for.

I, too, work for a "non-profit" CP center, though on a volunteer basis. The beatings you speak of ? I'm very familiar with those. The higher-ups seem to be making some pretty good money, judging by the cars they drive. The rest of the staff, therapists and all are driving what I'm driving.
In comparision, Friendly's may be the way to go.

tcwest10 wrote:In comparision, Friendly's may be the way to go.

Trust me. It's not.

Part of the problem is that I have been made the guinea pig manager for a new program. Well, it wasn't a very well thought out change and its rapidly deteriorating. No one is benefitting from this change. I'm losing staff, I've literally had more than 100% staff turnover in less than four months. So, while I'm flattered that I was chosen to lead this new initiative, I also feel like a stool pidgeon. Because when it fails I'll be the easy scapegoat. I'm doing everything that I can to reversed the damage, but it doesn't seem to be getting better. So, I figure within a few months I'll either get it back on track, in which case I have a sucess on my resume, or it'll fail and I'll be unemployed anyway.

I've thought about teaching, but you can't sniff a teaching spot without a teaching certificate...especially if you don't have a degree in science or math. I'm not in a position where I can go to school for a year before getting a job.

TC, the only ones driving nice cars where I work are working in the marketing department.

All of the directors there are young and relatively new at thier positions. It'll be ten years before anything opens above me, so I'd have to leave anyway. I can't spend ten years raising a family on this income. We aren't at this point able to handle any unexpected setbacks, we've already went through our savings. That's why I can't do something that requires a new degree or has any up front costs.

I don't think I'm over reacting here am I? I mean I'd like to stay at least a year in this position, but I just don't think I can make it that long.

Chad

Redskins1974 wrote:I moved from a non-profit background to the for profit world about 3 years ago. I feel like my soul has been ripped of me with a dull spoon and my life is being sucked away from me. So, I would suggest looking for work in other non-profits or the education sector. Believe it or not, many non-profit's are paying much better than people think and their benefits are better. The bottom line is do what you think fits your personality and what your good at but if you enjoy the non-profit sector and money is the issue, find a better non-profit. If you truly feel you have something to offer in the for-profit world, go for it. Also, teachers salaries and the need for teachers is on the rise so don't count that out either.

Money isn't everything... it helps of course but just be careful what you wish for.

Do not, my friend, ever become a high school teacher. Your soul will die from overwork and noise. You will learn to hate the nation's youth and will probably assault them...as I did, spoiling my record for peaceful interaction with my fellow man. I thrashed one lad before the whole class, chased another until he jumped from a window, second floor. I had no real defense at my hearing, so ended up becoming a kick boxer for awhile, instead of a school teacher.
I felt much less abused in the ring. Even today, when encountering a young person, my hand slips into my pocket for a conforting squeeze of my Koran kubatan, still legal in this country. Do not become a high school teacher. Better you should lie in your own fifth in some detox center, half deranged, but still able to entertain pleasant thoughts while thinking of naked animals.
Take a look at all the high school teachers your've ever known. I rest my case.

...and don't fret about being a "guinea pig" manager, no insult intended to our Italian-American posters. Stinkin' goombahs.
Anyway, I too have recently gone through such a deal...I've been made supervisor of a crew that I've worked with for 13 years, and the adjustment is almost impossible. The people who trained me are under my supervison now, and it's tough to make even-handed decisions where they're involved. I mean, how do you treat those guys like everybody else, even though it's in your new job description ? (And, boy...do they test me to see how far I'll be pushed...)
Hang in there. It can't be the worst thing in the world forever, right ?

tcwest10 wrote:...Hang in there. It can't be the worst thing in the world forever, right ?

No, its certainly not. There are much worse dilemas to have. I know that no matter what my family will eat. Even if I end up waiting tables my family will have a roof over there heads.

Chad